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Patrick says

1. What is a “high trust society”?

There are two things working together. One operates beneath the surface, a kind of “spiritual” connection in which everyone understands the rules of society. Second, everyone can be trusted to follow them.

“Diversity” destroys this.

I was recently playing Fallout: New Vegas again, and the Vault 3 scene reminded me of this stupidity. There's a handful of the residents that think opening the vault to outsiders after a nuclear war is a virtuous idea and everyone'll be singing kumbaya. Here's the dialog between your character and the leader of the raider gang who resides in the vault now:

DeportLibtards says

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Despite the U.S. Supreme Court setting laws barring racial covenants,

Writer of this article doesn't know shit.

SCOTUS only ruled that the courts can't enforce those covenants. It did not ban them.

Deed covenants can't be removed easily.

But they can be legally challenged as far as violating "fair housing" laws

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somewhat relates to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Frankfurter#Shooting_of_Gustloff

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

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Karloff says

I was recently playing Fallout: New Vegas again, and the Vault 3 scene reminded me of this stupidity. There's a handful of the residents that think opening the vault to outsiders after a nuclear war is a virtuous idea and everyone'll be singing kumbaya. Here's the dialog between your character and the leader of the raider gang who resides in the vault now:

Yup:

DeportLibtards says

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-second-world

there is a basic high trust morality, one where you have a “leave a penny take a penny” system or where places like nordstroms can have a reputation for “accepting any return for any reason” because they pride themselves on top notch, zero friction customer service.

then some group starts stealing pennies and returning 12 year old converse all stars as brand new louboutins and the systems choke.

people do it on purpose. i have a good friend who has some “second world” extended family associated with his daughter. they buy products with warrantees and mark the warranty expiration on their calendars so they can return the goods for new ones a week before the warranty expires. it’s a game to them, an obvious way to come out ahead. it’s third world morals in a first world system.

and it just breaks everything.

this is why you cannot just drop such low trust non-golden rule people into high trust golden rule societies and expect to lift them up. they have no interest in being lifted. they just see easy pickins and go picking. they think you are stupid for letting them and lose respect for you and your ways. after all, why respect a culture full of idiots who are so easy to take advantage of?

it becomes the second world way of life.

the second world is a siege, a hostage scenario, a way of life under attack and abuse. the systems are not all crumbling by accident, they are being pulled down by people who play on one move look ahead and cannot pass a marshmallow test (or would have no interest in doing so if they could). it’s people who always defect in a prisoner’s dilemma living in a society built around a presumption that mostly everyone would learn to cooperate because the game is iterative and you’re going to play over and over again and that’s how we all win.

not in the second world you don’t.

Patrick says

this is why you cannot just drop such low trust non-golden rule people into high trust golden rule societies and expect to lift them up

Target pulls the plug on self-checkout amid shoplifting surge

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/target-pulls-the-plug-on-self-checkout-amid-shoplifting-surge-and-customers-are-fuming/ar-AA1E7lUN

Every place on earth same issues with the same groups.

Patrick says

systems are not all crumbling by accident, they are being pulled down by people who play on one move look ahead and cannot pass a marshmallow test

https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-origin-of-the-marshmallow-test/

The Marshmallow Test is a famous psychological study in which children are offered a choice between a small sweet now or a big sweet later. Kids who can’t resist the former tend to be have more trouble in life.

Interestingly, this famous experiment started in Trinidad to look into why Asian Indians had more money than blacks: because the Indians were better at resisting immediate temptation for long term benefits. Fortunately, the academic Walter Mischel came up with a rather transparent rationale for why the big race gap on his test wasn’t really, when you stop and think about it, about race, it was about whether the child’s father lived with him (which seems to correlate closely with race, but hey look a squirrel!)

Patrick says

The Marshmallow Test is a famous psychological study in which children are offered a choice between a small sweet now or a big sweet later. Kids who can’t resist the former tend to be have more trouble in life.

What the kids have learned to do is take the marshmallow now and then whine and complain about not getting the big sweet later.

HeadSet says

Patrick says

The Marshmallow Test is a famous psychological study in which children are offered a choice between a small sweet now or a big sweet later. Kids who can’t resist the former tend to be have more trouble in life.

What the kids have learned to do is take the marshmallow now and then whine and complain about not getting the big sweet later.

Haha exacty and with zero repercussions why wouldn't they? Parents are fags these days who let their kids walk all over them.

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/the-imago-dei

The logical conclusion from the observation that low Gini coefficients correlate to better societies would be to advocate for full communism. This should make us suspicious, however, because every time communism has been tried it’s been catastrophic, and the same is true in a gentler and more gradual but no less pernicious way of its more milquetoast cousin socialism. On closer examination, we see that there is an important confounding variable. Countries with low Gini coefficients, such as Sweden or Japan, tend to be more ethnically homogeneous than countries with high Gini coefficients, such as South Africa or Brazil: that is, racial diversity is correlated with high levels of income inequality. The inhabitants of homogeneous countries are competing with near-peers, naturally leading to low Gini coefficients since you don’t expect large differences in outcome in the absence of small variances in ability; at the same time the inhabitants of homogeneous communities are also more inclined to cooperate with one another, resulting in lower crime and higher levels of happiness (particularly amongst people such as the Swedes or the Japanese, who are very cooperative, high-trust peoples).

If we look at what has happened in our own societies as we have tried to make them more equal and, simultaneously, more diverse (which we are obligated to do, because we are all equal), we find that the consequences of our fanatical embrace of total equality have been, without exception, entropic. Our institutions are crumbling under the burden of the self-imposed incompetence of DEI. Standards drop every year in the education system, from kindergarten all the way through doctoral programs. Urban areas have long since decayed into crime-ridden hell zones with broken infrastructure neglected by kleptocratic governments. Public debt has exploded into the stratosphere with nothing tangible to account for it but the endless money pits of social entitlement programs feeding an ever-growing dependent class. Mass immigration from the third world – the denizens of which are morally equal to Europeans in every way, meaning that there are no moral grounds to prefer a country maintain its numbers with its own babies rather than someone else’s – threatens to displace white people from dominance in every single white country. I could go on. I don’t think I have to.

Some believe that the answer to this is simply to force society to accept the overwhelming evidence of human biodiversity. Once it is generally acknowledged that there are real, measurable, and significant differences in behavioural inclinations and cognitive capacity between ancestral population groups, we can implement colour-blind meritocracy, in which individuals will be free to rise to whatever station their specific talents suit them to, while everyone accepts as a matter of course that this means that certain groups will be over-represented at certain levels of society – in practice, blacks at the bottom, Hispanics and low-caste Indians in the middle, and whites, Asians, and high-caste Indians at the top. Don’t pretend you don’t know that that’s how it would shake out. We all know. Even the equalists know.

Patrick says

More peaceful than diversity free Japan?

mell says

Haha exacty and with zero repercussions why wouldn't they? Parents are fags these days who let their kids walk all over them.

Maybe in urban areas and CA or NY. Not the case in the Midwest outside of Chicagoland. I'm technically outside the official border of what is considered Chicagoland. Still have some drunks and pill popper parents, but most keep their kids in line. Have kids in 3 different grades and only have heard of one suspension from school. Most aren't pampered either because they're 2 income $80-100k/yr families.

Most kids here won't even see 2-3 states in their life. They like their toys and country life and have fun locally. Most urban blacks in Chicago may never leave the city. When I go to Midway or O'hare I avoid blacks if at all possible. It's likely a once in a lifetime flight and they freak out. No I'm not racist, but try not to sit near them on a plane. They lack any travel etiquette. Bag in sideways in the overhead instead of wheels first. Freak out if there's turbulence. Get up at take off or landing. I've seen it all.

Asians might actually be the worst though. Foreign ones especially. They just don't listen. Make no attempt to read or know English. I've only done Spanish speaking countries, but I can communicate the basics. If I went to an Asian country I'd at least attempt to learn 20-30 different basic things in their language. Typical tangent. Sorry.

You cannot hate the government or the upper rich enough. Sorry to include the rich because it sounds like jealousy maybe but, just take a look at what the rich are doing. Not only that but it's kind of like how not all blacks run around crying for reparations but, I guarantee you they will not complain if they were to receive it. The rich love it when things go in their favor even when they aren't out there making it happen. Sorry but, you cannot hate them enough. IMO

GNL says

The rich love it when things go in their favor even when they aren't out there making it happen

That is why the Hollywood and Soros Wall Street crowd do what they do to the American public in order to continue winning on their terms.

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https://www.amren.com/news/2025/08/indian-migrant-nurse-accused-of-drugging-and-sexually-assaulting-patients-could-face-just-two-years-in-prison/

An Indian migrant nurse is on trial in Frankfurt for allegedly drugging and sexually assaulting vulnerable hospital patients — but faces a maximum sentence of just two years in prison if convicted.

The case has sparked outrage after harrowing testimony from a 21-year-old victim described how her recovery from heart surgery turned into a nightmare.

As reported by Bild, one victim, identified as Elif A., told Frankfurt Regional Court on Tuesday how, one day after her heart ablation procedure in August 2023, nurse Gean G., 37, injected fluid into her IV line despite her objections.

“The medication burned like fire. A few seconds later, I was out and noticed my top being pulled up,” she told the Court. She said she drifted into a state of almost paralysis but felt him touching her thigh, chest, and genitals before losing all memory.

Prosecutors accuse the nurse of grievous bodily harm and sexual assault, alleging that he drugged at least two other patients into unconsciousness four months prior to the alleged sexual assault.

Germany used to be a high-trust society, but won't be anymore.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/importing-low-trust

... perhaps it’s a coincidence that it correlated with low levels of immigrants, perhaps not, but the fact is that it was a period of low immigrant percentage in the US (8.8-4.7%) and also a period when the countries that immigrants came from were tightly controlled. ...

in 1960, 70% of immigrants were from europe, predominantly the north and west.

by 1980, nearly 80% came from latin america, asia, and africa.

this surge coincided with an absolute plummeting in social trust.

again, there is no proof of causality here just from the correlations, but it’s not exactly a stretch of imagination to conceive that large scale importation of people from low trust societies could have an effect on the trust of the society seeking to absorb them.

the trust levels of blacks and hispanics for others is notably lower than other groups. some would say this is because they are discriminated against, others that the lack of trust comes from being from untrustworthy low-trust cultures. i suspect the latter to be a primary driver as this same lack of trust exists in their home societies where they are the vast majorities and hold the positions of power.




pew research cites a number of studies on “multi-ethnic societies being lower trust.”

Scholars have argued that higher levels of ethnic diversity are related to lower levels of social trust, and the U.S. population has been growing more racially and ethnically diverse.

i’ve certainly seen some of this firsthand in places like minneapolis, once a bastion of unlocked-door high trust now a seriously low trust “don’t drive to that part of town at night” unmelted pot of low trust, high agression cultures like somalis. ...

i fear we are headed into a “backlash stage” from much too much much too fast. past a point, immigration, especially immigration with no selectors for merit or even capacity or desire to assimilate starts to feel like culural assault and this ~14%+ range is right where the backlash hit 100 years ago.

and at a certain point, non-assimilable cultures and immigrants selected not for desire to get with the american program but rather to break and prey upon it start to pose existential threat to the first world golden rule structures that underpin the american way and american exceptionalism.




when you see this sort of in group preferencing to commute the sentence of an illegal CDL truck driver who killed three people or 100 other responses to other matters like it like it over and over again, what is one supposed to do? even those who do not commit crimes often support those who do.

it feels to me like we’re reaching a tipping point where either groups assimilate and accede to actual golden rule american exceptionalism, or the americans are going to start calling the fouls whether those committing them care or not and will turn on them in earnest as being outside the social contract and no longer afforded its protection.

calling anyone who values high trust civilization “racist” and “xenophobic” has played out as a tactic.

it’s over now and a high functioning society of high agency people going into self-preservation mode is a helluva thing.

the nature of the free societies of moral people is ultimately this:

police yourself or get ready to get policed by others. hard.

living as privileged outlaws and takers is not an option that will be tolerated for long.

and a high trust society will at some point defend itself and its values.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/tribal-war

in most cultures, especially low trust cultures, tribe and family structure are always paramount.

the purpose of government is not to protect rights or individuals; it's to codify which tribe gets to plunder and dominate the other tribes.

this will be done with ostentatious and unapologetic violence because dominant tribes want to be seen doing it and see it as nothing to apologize for. in such a worldview, it’s how you impose order.

these groups do not want to be like you and adopt your ways. they see them as weak and cowardly and as an invitation to take what they want.

meet is qalinle ibrahim dirie, a 42 year old somali immigrant who has been in the US for 18 years.

in july of 2024, he was charged with raping a 12 year old minneapolis girl who he abducted from her backyard. ...

this is obviously an outlandish tragedy and outrage, quite literally one of the worst things that can happen.

qalinle and his family do not seem to care.




and the very systems that underpin one-time high trust places like minnesota serve to encourage more and more intense low trust behavior. ...

this man kidnapped and violently raped a 12 year old girl. he grabbed her out of her own yard.

he has no remorse. his family and a nearby islamic center and mosque back him utterly and act like this was some out of character mistake. ...

try breaking the law in an islamic culture and see how they take “oh, sorry, i’m new here” as a defense.

i know for a fact that there are some lovely folks in the somali community in minneapolis (and i have met some), but given the widespread outpouring of support for dirie from individuals and institutions alike, there's clearly something very substantial that is very wrong here. ...

raping a 12 year old girl of another tribe is a concrete expression of tribal dominance. such an outrage, precisely because it is such an outrage, winds up being "a good thing" because it shows strength. it's quite literally "we are strong so we can do this. respect and fear us."

that fact that it’s objectively horrible is a feature, not a bug.

if you doubt me, go spend some time in some of these societies. ...

this world is very different from your world.

it’s a world where the woman raped is killed for adultery or fornication and the man who did it gets slapped on the wrist. these are not social mores with which one can integrate or compromise. ...

consider: such child rape by an outsider is not an act this tribe would tolerate if you did it to them. they would go wild in violent response. and that tells you a great deal about the real underpinnings: it's not that they do not understand what rape means, it's that they understand EXACTLY what it means, probably better than you do, but see it as a tool and an expression of alpha-culture dominance.

the fact that you do not go wild in instant violent response means you are weak and afraid. no one who was not these things would fail to respond with instant attack. to once so acculturated, the slow, stately, manipulable process of the courts seems like no response at all.

this level of pure "might makes right" morality is utterly foreign to the western mind whose high-trust, non-defection civilization elevates the rights of others above the short term desires of the self and which sees a just state as that which protects such negative rights to self-determination, safety, and property.

this is not the mindset of most of the world. power is. low-trust systems are essentially forms of multi-sided gang warfare and the only way to survive in such a system is to find influence and protection in gangs. no individual can stand against 100 or 1000 predators. only tribes may. so you join and you participate and you seek power, prominence, and prestige. this is safety and prosperity. ...

consider this story written by a former US peace corps volunteer. ...

Once, a friend of another volunteer wanted to earn some money by baking bread. He got a little bit of money together and used it to buy ingredients. He built a mud stove himself, and cooked 30 loaves of village bread" - basically misshapen, doughy baguette. He took the bread to the road, and started to sell them, until his father came by. His father said, "You have bread! The family needs bread!" and took 20 loaves for himself and the rest of the kids (this particular father had wives and 8 kids per wife). The enterprising African friend was left bankrupt. He lost his entire initial investment and never made bread again.

This is the basic story of Africa: communalism gone insane. It is completely unthinkable to refuse a demand of an elder or a family member for money or food. People hid any small money they had, because if anyone knew they had it, there would be a line around the comer asking for loans and favors, and they would be honor-bound or whatever to say yes. I told my friends over and over to say no, and each time they politely explained to me that it was impossible. The whole system is built to pull people down to the lowest common denominator.

again, this level of imminence is consistent with high time-preference cultures where “now” matters much and “the future” is a sort of amorphous and unpredictable thing if anyone bothers to think about it at all. the size of the punishment winds up mattering a great deal less than the immediacy of it. ...

this inverts american melting pot notions of assimilation. the more comfortable and safe the tribe feels, the less it will integrate and the more it will seek to take, to prey upon those around it, to flex muscles and power to gain and to show dominance. that is their way.

“hey let’s just be nice to them and they will learn to be nice to us” will not work to bring those of this mindset into the fold. it presents as weakness and fear, the acts of contrition a weak people would make to the strong.

it is seen as submission and will invite more and more intense acts of dominance. ...

when you are lenient in a way that they would never be to a lesser tribe, they assume this places them above you in hierarchy. it’s simple animal dominance. a wolf that gives food to another wolf is beta. the one who takes is alpha. and the idea of “let’s build a society conducive to human flourishing by getting past this” is entirely absent, not only unknown but possibly unknowable by those so subsumed by the demands of trible alliegence in service of tribal dominance and of immediate time preferences rooted in “now” vs “what comes later.” this is pissing on trees and showing one’s belly in submission. ideas beyond that ethos sound like whining, cowardice, and stupidity.

and the beatings will continue until discernment improves. ...

immigrants are probably 18% of the US population right now, a number higher than even the high points before the civil war. the last 20 years have been a river and the 4 under biden an absolute flood. it’s palpable and the demography is astonishing.




when you add low trust people to high trust societies, it does not “lift all boats” it sinks you into second world degenerate states where you suffer much of the worst of all worlds. ...

the very purpose of this recent flood was to create a situation in which there are no good answers.

in needing and compelling mass deportation and removal to prevent cultural destruction, we are choosing between evils, but the lesser evil and thus better course would seem to be the one that preserves the american civilization rather than the one that sacrifices it to tribal war and predation because “the alternative would be being mean to people and getting called racist by the ‘empathy for other’ addled progressives.”

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Yes, the Statue of Liberty has broken chains and a shackle at her feet, symbolizing the end of slavery and oppression in America, though they are a subtle detail at the base of her right foot, almost hidden from view. The chains are a representation of America's enduring struggle for racial equality and freedom from bondage, a key aspect of the statue's original commission, which aimed to celebrate the abolition of slavery.

I think they have just about the lowest birth rate in the world.

They need cheap housing and a ban on feminism.

Population density in South Korea is about 500/km².
Germany 250
USA 40

They need to reject immigration and maintain a strong army to guard against the commies and other possible enemies. This way they preserve their country for Koreans.

Low fertility rate seems desirable until their population drops to a reasonable number.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_density
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.POP.DNST?locations=KR

True, some places are overpopulated, even if the world as a whole is not.