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https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/importing-low-trust

... perhaps it’s a coincidence that it correlated with low levels of immigrants, perhaps not, but the fact is that it was a period of low immigrant percentage in the US (8.8-4.7%) and also a period when the countries that immigrants came from were tightly controlled. ...

in 1960, 70% of immigrants were from europe, predominantly the north and west.

by 1980, nearly 80% came from latin america, asia, and africa.

this surge coincided with an absolute plummeting in social trust.

again, there is no proof of causality here just from the correlations, but it’s not exactly a stretch of imagination to conceive that large scale importation of people from low trust societies could have an effect on the trust of the society seeking to absorb them.

the trust levels of blacks and hispanics for others is notably lower than other groups. some would say this is because they are discriminated against, others that the lack of trust comes from being from untrustworthy low-trust cultures. i suspect the latter to be a primary driver as this same lack of trust exists in their home societies where they are the vast majorities and hold the positions of power.




pew research cites a number of studies on “multi-ethnic societies being lower trust.”

Scholars have argued that higher levels of ethnic diversity are related to lower levels of social trust, and the U.S. population has been growing more racially and ethnically diverse.

i’ve certainly seen some of this firsthand in places like minneapolis, once a bastion of unlocked-door high trust now a seriously low trust “don’t drive to that part of town at night” unmelted pot of low trust, high agression cultures like somalis. ...

i fear we are headed into a “backlash stage” from much too much much too fast. past a point, immigration, especially immigration with no selectors for merit or even capacity or desire to assimilate starts to feel like culural assault and this ~14%+ range is right where the backlash hit 100 years ago.

and at a certain point, non-assimilable cultures and immigrants selected not for desire to get with the american program but rather to break and prey upon it start to pose existential threat to the first world golden rule structures that underpin the american way and american exceptionalism.




when you see this sort of in group preferencing to commute the sentence of an illegal CDL truck driver who killed three people or 100 other responses to other matters like it like it over and over again, what is one supposed to do? even those who do not commit crimes often support those who do.

it feels to me like we’re reaching a tipping point where either groups assimilate and accede to actual golden rule american exceptionalism, or the americans are going to start calling the fouls whether those committing them care or not and will turn on them in earnest as being outside the social contract and no longer afforded its protection.

calling anyone who values high trust civilization “racist” and “xenophobic” has played out as a tactic.

it’s over now and a high functioning society of high agency people going into self-preservation mode is a helluva thing.

the nature of the free societies of moral people is ultimately this:

police yourself or get ready to get policed by others. hard.

living as privileged outlaws and takers is not an option that will be tolerated for long.

and a high trust society will at some point defend itself and its values.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/tribal-war

in most cultures, especially low trust cultures, tribe and family structure are always paramount.

the purpose of government is not to protect rights or individuals; it's to codify which tribe gets to plunder and dominate the other tribes.

this will be done with ostentatious and unapologetic violence because dominant tribes want to be seen doing it and see it as nothing to apologize for. in such a worldview, it’s how you impose order.

these groups do not want to be like you and adopt your ways. they see them as weak and cowardly and as an invitation to take what they want.

meet is qalinle ibrahim dirie, a 42 year old somali immigrant who has been in the US for 18 years.

in july of 2024, he was charged with raping a 12 year old minneapolis girl who he abducted from her backyard. ...

this is obviously an outlandish tragedy and outrage, quite literally one of the worst things that can happen.

qalinle and his family do not seem to care.




and the very systems that underpin one-time high trust places like minnesota serve to encourage more and more intense low trust behavior. ...

this man kidnapped and violently raped a 12 year old girl. he grabbed her out of her own yard.

he has no remorse. his family and a nearby islamic center and mosque back him utterly and act like this was some out of character mistake. ...

try breaking the law in an islamic culture and see how they take “oh, sorry, i’m new here” as a defense.

i know for a fact that there are some lovely folks in the somali community in minneapolis (and i have met some), but given the widespread outpouring of support for dirie from individuals and institutions alike, there's clearly something very substantial that is very wrong here. ...

raping a 12 year old girl of another tribe is a concrete expression of tribal dominance. such an outrage, precisely because it is such an outrage, winds up being "a good thing" because it shows strength. it's quite literally "we are strong so we can do this. respect and fear us."

that fact that it’s objectively horrible is a feature, not a bug.

if you doubt me, go spend some time in some of these societies. ...

this world is very different from your world.

it’s a world where the woman raped is killed for adultery or fornication and the man who did it gets slapped on the wrist. these are not social mores with which one can integrate or compromise. ...

consider: such child rape by an outsider is not an act this tribe would tolerate if you did it to them. they would go wild in violent response. and that tells you a great deal about the real underpinnings: it's not that they do not understand what rape means, it's that they understand EXACTLY what it means, probably better than you do, but see it as a tool and an expression of alpha-culture dominance.

the fact that you do not go wild in instant violent response means you are weak and afraid. no one who was not these things would fail to respond with instant attack. to once so acculturated, the slow, stately, manipulable process of the courts seems like no response at all.

this level of pure "might makes right" morality is utterly foreign to the western mind whose high-trust, non-defection civilization elevates the rights of others above the short term desires of the self and which sees a just state as that which protects such negative rights to self-determination, safety, and property.

this is not the mindset of most of the world. power is. low-trust systems are essentially forms of multi-sided gang warfare and the only way to survive in such a system is to find influence and protection in gangs. no individual can stand against 100 or 1000 predators. only tribes may. so you join and you participate and you seek power, prominence, and prestige. this is safety and prosperity. ...

consider this story written by a former US peace corps volunteer. ...

Once, a friend of another volunteer wanted to earn some money by baking bread. He got a little bit of money together and used it to buy ingredients. He built a mud stove himself, and cooked 30 loaves of village bread" - basically misshapen, doughy baguette. He took the bread to the road, and started to sell them, until his father came by. His father said, "You have bread! The family needs bread!" and took 20 loaves for himself and the rest of the kids (this particular father had wives and 8 kids per wife). The enterprising African friend was left bankrupt. He lost his entire initial investment and never made bread again.

This is the basic story of Africa: communalism gone insane. It is completely unthinkable to refuse a demand of an elder or a family member for money or food. People hid any small money they had, because if anyone knew they had it, there would be a line around the comer asking for loans and favors, and they would be honor-bound or whatever to say yes. I told my friends over and over to say no, and each time they politely explained to me that it was impossible. The whole system is built to pull people down to the lowest common denominator.

again, this level of imminence is consistent with high time-preference cultures where “now” matters much and “the future” is a sort of amorphous and unpredictable thing if anyone bothers to think about it at all. the size of the punishment winds up mattering a great deal less than the immediacy of it. ...

this inverts american melting pot notions of assimilation. the more comfortable and safe the tribe feels, the less it will integrate and the more it will seek to take, to prey upon those around it, to flex muscles and power to gain and to show dominance. that is their way.

“hey let’s just be nice to them and they will learn to be nice to us” will not work to bring those of this mindset into the fold. it presents as weakness and fear, the acts of contrition a weak people would make to the strong.

it is seen as submission and will invite more and more intense acts of dominance. ...

when you are lenient in a way that they would never be to a lesser tribe, they assume this places them above you in hierarchy. it’s simple animal dominance. a wolf that gives food to another wolf is beta. the one who takes is alpha. and the idea of “let’s build a society conducive to human flourishing by getting past this” is entirely absent, not only unknown but possibly unknowable by those so subsumed by the demands of trible alliegence in service of tribal dominance and of immediate time preferences rooted in “now” vs “what comes later.” this is pissing on trees and showing one’s belly in submission. ideas beyond that ethos sound like whining, cowardice, and stupidity.

and the beatings will continue until discernment improves. ...

immigrants are probably 18% of the US population right now, a number higher than even the high points before the civil war. the last 20 years have been a river and the 4 under biden an absolute flood. it’s palpable and the demography is astonishing.




when you add low trust people to high trust societies, it does not “lift all boats” it sinks you into second world degenerate states where you suffer much of the worst of all worlds. ...

the very purpose of this recent flood was to create a situation in which there are no good answers.

in needing and compelling mass deportation and removal to prevent cultural destruction, we are choosing between evils, but the lesser evil and thus better course would seem to be the one that preserves the american civilization rather than the one that sacrifices it to tribal war and predation because “the alternative would be being mean to people and getting called racist by the ‘empathy for other’ addled progressives.”

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Yes, the Statue of Liberty has broken chains and a shackle at her feet, symbolizing the end of slavery and oppression in America, though they are a subtle detail at the base of her right foot, almost hidden from view. The chains are a representation of America's enduring struggle for racial equality and freedom from bondage, a key aspect of the statue's original commission, which aimed to celebrate the abolition of slavery.

I think they have just about the lowest birth rate in the world.

They need cheap housing and a ban on feminism.

Population density in South Korea is about 500/km².
Germany 250
USA 40

They need to reject immigration and maintain a strong army to guard against the commies and other possible enemies. This way they preserve their country for Koreans.

Low fertility rate seems desirable until their population drops to a reasonable number.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_density
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.POP.DNST?locations=KR

True, some places are overpopulated, even if the world as a whole is not.

https://x.com/OldeWorldOrder/status/1974930698785157459

Cesar Chavez was against illegal immigration and encouraged the federal government to enforce immigration law.

Patrick says

Many Muslim countries won’t take Muslims from “shitty” Muslim countries out of fear of terrorism and thug behavior.

But we take everyone like retards.

Fortwaye says

Many Muslim countries won’t take Muslims from “shitty” Muslim countries out of fear of terrorism and thug behavior.

That is also a strategy to spread Islam in the West. Saudi Arabia, et al, will not take in refugees but will spend money to build mosques in the West where these refugees settle.

https://neofeudalreview.substack.com/p/the-nursing-home-economy

Other countries which apparently have decent aging care facilities - Norway (or maybe not), Sweden, Denmark, Japan - are all historically homogenous cultures with high societal trust, but America today is a desolate wasteland, not homogenous at all and with very low societal trust, so deciding on some government policy to improve things is simply not going to work.

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The Roman Elites preferred foreign slaves to domestic proles.

Patrick says

I think they have just about the lowest birth rate in the world.

They need cheap housing and a ban on feminism.

Real TFR in Tier 1 cities in China (Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong) is now 0.25.

Other high tier cities is 0.5.

Those are not tyos.

yawaraf says

Low fertility rate seems desirable until their population drops to a reasonable number.

That's not how population collapse works:



It can't be stopped on a dime, either.

North Korea just has to wait it out and then simply march in. The highways in SK will have 90% empty traffic for Nork tanks to drive on.

Actually, Norks won't have to deploy many tanks by then.