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What Stock Market Investments Are You Making in 2016?


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2016 Jun 6, 12:35pm   44,903 views  216 comments

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Hi guys,

I'm looking over my portfolio this week (both 401K retirement and personal brokerage account) and looking ahead at what to invest in during 2016.

I see that the market correction that we had in late Jan - early Feb '16 is behind us and once again the Dow, Nasdaq, and the S&P500 are near historical high levels. As a result, I'm going to pull some of the money I have here and continue to watch the fed.

I see precious metals (gold, silver, platinum) have been surging since Feb but still significantly below their 1yr and 2yr highs. Depending on where you believe oil is going, some are arguing it's a bargain right now too but oil isn't likely to do much in the short term. Long term treasury bonds had a strong year. Healthcare & Financial sectors haven't performed too well in the past year but Utilities & Telecom sectors have brought modest returns.

I'm interested in getting into a discussion regarding patrick.net's hot picks are for 2016 and where are people are putting their money in terms of market investment today.

Now that Bay Area home prices have surpassed a level that's attractive to most investors, some of us are looking at other investment options.

#investing

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1   HydroCabron   2016 Jun 6, 12:47pm  

Please don't.

Picking stocks is a fool's errand. Index funds only.

2   BayArea   2016 Jun 6, 12:50pm  

I'm mostly looking at sectors and indexes.

3   Strategist   2016 Jun 6, 4:49pm  

BayArea says

What Stock Market Investments Are You Making in 2016?

The stock market will take off. Real Estate will take off. Who wants to get rich with me?
95% of my investments are:
Real Estate.
Home builder stocks - ITB
S&P 500

4   _   2016 Jun 6, 5:03pm  

Single Company trading

TWTR

( building a position there)

UNXL
MASI
-
HP
- mostly out
ATEN

GPRO ( recently)

Long term portfolio

85% stocks

50% U.S
25% International
10% MASI

10% bonds
5% Reits

Only single stock investment MASI

5   HEY YOU   2016 Jun 6, 5:16pm  

Flipping overpriced shacks is the only path to wealth.
There's always a sucker buyer.

6   BayArea   2016 Jun 6, 5:26pm  

Logan Mohtashami says

GPRO ( recently)

Logan, thanks for sharing. GPRO is an interesting one. I've wondered if the 82% 1-yr decline is justified. On one hand the company is showing slowing growth and increased competition but on the other hand it's a wildly powerful brand and it's got it's heals already dug into the virtual reality space.

Also, I think you may be a little equity heavy with where the market currently resides...

7   _   2016 Jun 6, 5:35pm  

BayArea says

I've wondered if the 82% 1-yr decline is justified.

Yes, it's a hardware company only, at $9 dollars it has value, stop loss $7.25 only looking here for the Pre Holiday day push and the Drone release

That's it BayArea says

Also, I think you may be a little stock heavy with where the market currently resides...

I never ever change the long term portfolio because I add every month to it, recession are the gift of the Gods

85% stocks peak 60% is the low limit if I change anything

Always in, never out, trading accounts different beast all together

8   BayArea   2016 Jun 6, 5:38pm  

I've also been looking at the drone space...

There is a recent etf that's focused on all things drone, might be worth a look: IFLY (GPRO makes up 3%)

9   BayArea   2016 Jun 6, 5:49pm  

Strategist says

95% of my investments are:

Real Estate.

Home builder stocks - ITB

S&P 500

Isn't the old adage, "buy low, sell high"?

10   _   2016 Jun 6, 5:54pm  

BayArea says

might be worth a look: IFLY (GPRO makes up 3%)

Push near Christmas they delayed the launch prepping for that... at this point stop loss protects

Only play I see here

11   BayArea   2016 Jun 6, 5:56pm  

And what are you hoping happens with TWTR?

That was a long steep ride down since Jan '14... I think its speculative platform for commerce isn't likely to be realized

12   _   2016 Jun 6, 5:59pm  

BayArea says

And what are you hoping happens with TWTR?

Cash Flow is strong here, $14-17 it's worth a trade

Valuation makes it not cheap market cap wise.. However, bad news has pushed it any lower from the recent lows

That was a awful quarter reported and still couldn't break it down..

No stop loss here though as this one I would pick up more

Love the product but most of the IPO's have been garbage in this cycle

13   Booger   2016 Jun 6, 6:01pm  

I would tend to avoid gold, and other precious metals in a rising interest rate environment.

14   BayArea   2016 Jun 7, 10:20am  

Booger says

I would tend to avoid gold, and other precious metals in a rising interest rate environment

Higher interest rates tend to take precious metal commodity money and instead flow it into newly higher yielding bonds. But the historic correlations aren't very strong.

15   Johny   2016 Jun 7, 3:57pm  

I had gopro sold it after making 30% profit.
I had twtr, sold it after losing 20%

Don't see any niche with gopro... you can buy chinese knockoff, 90% of the features of gopro for 25% of the price..

16   BayArea   2016 Jun 7, 4:34pm  

Johny says

you can buy chinese knockoff, 90% of the features of gopro for 25% of the price..

I keep going back and forth with GPRO... It sells products that are considered to be best in class, but like you said, are they 4x better than the next best thing? Hardly.

Similar to Nikon and Canon, improvements in smartphone camera capability have done it's share to reduce demand for GPRO.

17   _   2016 Jun 7, 4:36pm  

BayArea says

Similar to Nikon and Canon, improvements in smartphone camera capability have done it's share to reduce demand for GPRO.

At $20-$70 it's very expensive

because it's really a hardware company...

Always fluff in any cycle

MASI my favorite pick just hit a new all time high today! :-)

18   Strategist   2016 Jun 7, 4:45pm  

BayArea says

Johny says

you can buy chinese knockoff, 90% of the features of gopro for 25% of the price..

I keep going back and forth with GPRO... It sells products that are considered to be best in class, but like you said, are they 4x better than the next best thing? Hardly.

Similar to Nikon and Canon, improvements in smartphone camera capability have done it's share to reduce demand for GPRO.

Wont be long before all the Gopro technology and more will be incorporated into the iPhone.

19   Strategist   2016 Jun 7, 4:46pm  

Logan Mohtashami says

MASI my favorite pick just hit a new all time high today! :-)

In that case, you get to buy the beer.

20   _   2016 Jun 7, 4:49pm  

Strategist says

In that case, you get to buy the beer.

Yardhouse 8:00PM I will be there if you will...

Big bock of shares at 19.90 20.61 and 21.26 I can afford you 3 drinks a uber ride home

21   BayArea   2016 Jun 7, 5:08pm  

Logan Mohtashami says

MASI my favorite pick just hit a new all time high today! :-)

At what point do you take your money and bail on MASI?

22   _   2016 Jun 7, 5:39pm  

BayArea says

At what point do you take your money and bail on MASI?

I have sold at 40 , 44, 48 and going to sell some tomorrow at 52

I have another big block around 37.38

I invest some each month regardless of prices

It's 100% outperformed my expectation since they won the lawsuit against Phillps and got 487 million .

It's a keep but I have and will sell

23   FortWayne   2016 Jun 7, 5:42pm  

BAC, JPM, GOOG, PG, COST

I don't day trade, I just buy and hold and hold and hold...

24   _   2016 Jun 7, 7:33pm  

UNXl which shot from 40 cents to 2.76

Spec play sold at 1.70 - 2.69

Thesis for selling as I wrote as that they would have to do a secondary, so they did priced at 1.50 and got back again today, but much smaller position than what I started.

Playing with the house money now

25   _   2016 Jun 8, 8:34am  

52.12! MASI

Ok now I sound like a pusher here, I will stop ;-)

26   BayArea   2016 Jun 8, 2:48pm  

I need to take a look to see what the market has done historically during the 5mo leading up to an election...

Logan, lets take a look and compare notes.

27   Strategist   2016 Jun 8, 3:14pm  

BayArea says

I need to take a look to see what the market has done historically during the 5mo leading up to an election...

Logan, lets take a look and compare notes.

i heard somewhere it goes up during Presidential elections.

28   _   2016 Jun 8, 3:17pm  

BayArea says

Logan, lets take a look and compare notes.

Break out to new highs and then we consolidate, regardless of the Presidential timing

2 Factors here

1. Oil crash is done, should get some revisions to the upside in Q4 2016 or Q1 2017

2. We are late in the economic cycle but the Fed hasn't needed to fight inflation and labor cost are rising but they can be managed for now.

29   nolongerloveblack   2016 Jun 8, 3:30pm  

Come on, guys. Probabilities. My opinion, For next 3 years, SP 500, 50% stay flat, 30% gain 10%, 20% lose 50%. Make your own decisions.

30   Strategist   2016 Jun 8, 6:32pm  

nolongerloveblack says

Come on, guys. Probabilities. My opinion, For next 3 years, SP 500, 50% stay flat, 30% gain 10%, 20% lose 50%. Make your own decisions.

For the next 3 years:
50% chance gain 40%
50% chance gain 25%

31   _   2016 Jun 8, 6:34pm  

Strategist says

For the next 3 years:

50% chance gain 40%

50% chance gain 25%

Remember when I told you to get back into the Builders and KB Homes in Late Jan - Feb! would have been a nice additional add on to the portfolio

32   Strategist   2016 Jun 8, 6:40pm  

Logan Mohtashami says

Remember when I told you to get back into the Builders and KB Homes in Late Jan - Feb! would have been a nice additional add on to the portfolio

That you did. Home builders have finally started their move. There is no stopping it now.

33   Strategist   2016 Jun 8, 7:22pm  

Ironman says

nolongerloveblack says

stay flat,

The market has been flat since the Fall of 2014. There's a few here that drink the kool-aid and expect new highs with nothing to support it except ZIRP.

It's time for the next move up. Don't you want to get rich?

34   Strategist   2016 Jun 8, 8:04pm  

Ironman says

Strategist says

It's time for the next move up. Don't you want to get rich?

Sure, show me the fundamentals that will make that happen.

Low rates
Recovering Economy
Lower unemployment
Housing recovery
End of Obama's term.

35   _   2016 Jun 8, 8:50pm  

We will hit a all time high very soon

No #QE no #ZIRP No #NIRP

#USA

36   Strategist   2016 Jun 8, 9:03pm  

Ironman says

Strategist says

Low rates


Recovering Economy


Lower unemployment


Housing recovery


End of Obama's term.

Well, you got 2 out of 5 right.... That's a failing grade in Marcus' math class.

It's easy to get an "A" in Marcus' math class:
Obama for third term
Hillary for President
Bernie for President
More illegal immigration
Triple teacher salaries.

37   _   2016 Jun 9, 5:32am  

Actually, I misspoke, if you count div. we are at a all time high

38   _   2016 Jun 9, 5:41am  

In terms of the economic theme that could give the cycle a slight push, as oil as risen, trade will look a bit better

Ticker symbol HP is the only oil play that I run on .. mid to low 40's is where I was pushing here, took some off at 57 now it's at 67, Let it ride.

39   _   2016 Jun 9, 7:52am  

Ironman says

Finally, you're admitting it.... took you long enough...

This is true, I should have said earlier counting Div. we are already at all time highs

40   anotheraccount   2016 Jun 9, 9:47am  

arlp - sold too early right before it hit 15. I got in below 12 on average. I think the energy rally is not that strong.

nac - at this point it's way too high; it was a good buy last summer, You are betting that the FED will restart QE and start buy municipal bonds. If California goes into recession, I suspect this thing can sell off 20% easily. 4 years of yield.

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