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Hillary failed to secure the nomination. Super dels will decide at convention


               
2016 Jun 8, 7:29am   16,717 views  64 comments

by Dan8267   follow (4)  

For all practical purposes, it's a tie. It's all up to the super delegates now. We won't know who they pick until July 25-28 when the Democratic convention is held and the super delegates finally vote.

From this point on, both candidates will have to make their case to the party leaders Given that Hillary could not defeat Bernie in the primaries despite the massive amounts of money, political connections, and universal backing of all major media outlets, what makes anyone confident that she can defeat Trump, who won his primaries in a landslide despite having gone against a dozen candidates to Hillary's two competitors?

Bernie Sanders still slaughters Trump in the general election according to every poll. Hillary Clinton does not. In fact, in some papers including the liberal Miami Herald state that Trump will unequivocally win the general election against Hillary. And when a liberal rag says this, you should take it seriously.

Donald Trump will win the 2016 presidential election.

Not "might” win. Not "could win under the following circumstances.” He's going to win as surely as the sun rises in the east, as certainly as high tide follows low, and as definitively as Steph Curry laid waste to the Oklahoma City Thunder's defense.

Here are five reasons why:

His rhetoric resonates. (Even as it appalls.)
Most Republicans are falling in line.
Gotcha journalism doesn't faze Trump.
Hillary follows his lead – badly.
Trump will crush Clinton in the debates.

A few months ago, Trump started referring to Clinton as "Crooked Hillary.” He's preparing the rhetorical battle space.

Also, Clinton is not a very good debater. People forget the way Barack Obama eviscerated her during the 2008 Democratic primaries. She does not do well in situations where she doesn't have complete control. It's why she prefers interviews to news conferences. Interviews are more predictable. Press conferences are free-for-alls.

We're a long way from the Lincoln-Douglas era, when people would sit and listen for hours to closely argued speeches. Trump is a master of the emotional appeal. He's shown he has no compunction about attacking Clinton and her husband on their moral and ethical lapses, even as he's fighting lawsuits accusing him of fraud and dodging questions about his past infidelities and current net worth.

In a contest between two shameless politicians, the one with the least shame wins. Get ready for President Trump.

A Trump-Sanders debate would go vastly different. Sanders appeals to independent and swing voters, people who want an intelligent president. Trump's tactics would backfire if he had to debate Sanders only increasing popular support for Bernie. Clinton's campaign so far has heavily played into Trump's tiny, tiny hands.

#politics #smallHandsSmallPenis #20MillionDollarPantSuit

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41   Dan8267   2016 Jun 8, 7:08pm  

errc says

That's why they call them "low info" voters.

This is precisely the problem with America. And both morons on the right like Call It Crazy and morons on the left like dumbass are illustrations of low information voters. And instead of listening to more knowledgeable people, they just live in a bubble and attack anyone who doesn't agree with every stupid thing they say. No wonder Trump is doing so well!

42   Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses   2016 Jun 8, 7:10pm  

Dan8267 says

No, you clearly are the form of racist who is the white guilt equivalent of the "white knight" sexist who thinks women must be protected from imaginary threats. You are right now demonstrating that you think African American need to be protected by some imaginary threat and you are the white knight they need to rescue them. That's highly fucking racist.

strawman. you don't get to make up my positions, then debate your made up positions. you really are deceitful lying millenial loser.

YOU have asserted that black people "should be voting for Bernie..."

I believe the majority of black voters, particularly primary voters, know what they are doing, and thus are intelligent enough to have picked the best candidate for themselves as individuals.

Your point of view is condescending and racist.

quit lying about my positions, you fucking loser.

43   Dan8267   2016 Jun 8, 7:23pm  

jazz music says

Call It Crazy with 2 posts ever on patnet!

I also noticed the similarity between dumbass and CIC. They are nearly identical in personality even though technical opposites on the one-dimensional political spectrum employed by most Americans.

44   Dan8267   2016 Jun 8, 7:29pm  

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

strawman. you don't get to make up my positions, then debate your made up positions. you really are deceitful lying millenial loser.

1. You clearly don't know what a straw man is. Read http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html
2. What the fuck is a "made up" position and how does it differ from a "not made up" position?
3. As I've already told you, I am not a Millennial. And as I've also told you, you are entitled to have whatever baseless, vile, and unrespectable opinions you want including that I'm a loser, but you are not entitled to your own facts. When you state that I am a Millennial, you are simply wrong as you are wrong in every other factual statement you have made today.
4. Why are you such a bigot against Millennials? Did one of them fuck your mother? The Millennials are the most educated generation in American history. Why such hate for them? Inferiority complex?

46   Dan8267   2016 Jun 8, 7:39pm  

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

YOU have asserted that black people "should be voting for Bernie..."

Again, a factually incorrect statement. This time you might simply be wrong rather than lying. Your reading comprehension skills are quite poor.

I have never made the assertion that "black people should be voting for Bernie". I made two statements:
1. African Americans are voting mainly for Hillary Clinton rather than Bernie Sanders.
2. This fact is surprising given that Hillary has consorted with a KKK clansman and Sanders was pivotal in civil rights for African Americans for the past 40+ years.

The first statement is a fact. If you dispute it, you are simply wrong. The second statement is an opinion, but it is a reasonable one and I'm well within my rights to state a reasoned opinion.

However, I will make another statement that will directly challenge the claim you are trying to make. It would be in African American's self-interest to have voted for Sanders instead of Hillary because Sanders has a long history of protecting their civil rights. Feel free to argue that president Hillary would be in African American's better self-interest. I'd like to see that. It would be like watching a toddler try to solve differential equations.

Oh, and you might want to listen to what Cornel West is saying in the video below. I know you are too childish to read anything, so this is in video form...

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47   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Jun 8, 7:39pm  

Dan8267 says

I also noticed the similarity between dumbass and CIC.

Fuck no. That's not cic. It's more likely RA. Plus, hrs right. Dan, your view regarding who black people should vote for is condescending. Blow had a good article about that this election cycle.

48   Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses   2016 Jun 8, 7:44pm  

Dans facts: I want bernie to win, and I'm a crybaby, so I won't accept anything else.

MY facts:
1. the delegates have SAID they are voting for Hillary. FACT.
2. Hillary has nearly 400 more pledged delegates than Bernie. FACT.
3. Hillary had 4 million or so more votes in the primary than Bernie. FACT.
4. Everyone experienced in calling primaries, has called it for Clinton. Fact.

49   Dan8267   2016 Jun 8, 7:48pm  

zzyzzx says

zzyzzx  

Dude, add a width="600" to your image tags.

50   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Jun 8, 7:59pm  

Hillary caught on tape explaining she doesn't use email for political reasons.
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In other words, she endangered US Secrets for her Political Purposes.

51   Dan8267   2016 Jun 8, 8:03pm  

thunderlips11 says

Hillary caught on tape explaining she doesn't use email for political reasons.

Jesus Christ. Does Stan Lee have to appear as a cameo in every movie?

52   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Jun 8, 10:32pm  

Dan8267 says

I sincerely doubt that Hillary violated any law in emailgate and that the FBI will indite her

She didn't violate any law, but she put herself outside the policy she was supposed to enforce as the Boss - bad judgement and bad leadership.

53   Dan8267   2016 Jun 8, 10:39pm  

thunderlips11 says

She didn't violate any law, but she put herself outside the policy she was supposed to enforce as the Boss - bad judgement and bad leadership.

On that I can agree wholeheartedly, but Hillary has done many things far worse like
- voting for the USA Patriot Act
- voting for the Bush wars
- opposing marriage equality
- supporting the TPP secrecy
- supporting keeping Gitmo open
- supporting bailouts to big banks and opposing financial reform
- taking huge bribes from special interests

Her email fiasco is small beans in comparison.

54   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Jun 8, 10:42pm  

Dan8267 says

On that I can agree wholeheartedly, but Hillary has done many things far worse like

No disagreement here.

She supported the Bankruptcy Reform Act, also.

56   lostand confused   2016 Jun 9, 7:01am  

If Hillary crossed the pledged delegates, Bernie will not be taking it to Philly. Trump won the pledged delegates. If Hillary's superdelegates switch to bernie-he is the nominee.

57   Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses   2016 Jun 9, 9:13am  

lostand confused says

If Hillary's superdelegates switch to bernie-he is the nominee.

If frogs had wings, they could just fly gently down after every jump, instead of bumping their asses so much...

58   Dan8267   2016 Jun 9, 9:47am  

YesYNot says

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/11/opinion/campaign-stops/stop-bernie-splaining-to-black-voters.html

1. You can't just put "-splaining" after a noun to make an intelligent argument. You sound like a SJW.
2. If you were to call anything here "-splaining" it should be "cornellWestsplaining" as demonstrated in this video.
3. Falsely accusing someone of belittling black people is a form of racism called race-baiting. That is exactly what you are engaging in right now.
4. As Cornell West eloquently explained, African Americans overwhelmingly support Bernie Sanders after and only after they get the correct information about his long history fighting for civil rights. This is also exactly why Cornell West so enthusiastically supports Bernie Sanders.
5. It is unethical of you to use African Americans as pawns in your deception to attack Bernie Sanders via his supporters. That is just a morally bankrupt tactic.

59   Dan8267   2016 Jun 9, 9:55am  

lostand confused says

Trump won the pledged delegates.

This is a true statement, which is why the GOP will have be a contested convention. This is also surprising because a few months ago, most people thought the GOP convention would be contested and the Democratic one would not. This has been an election season full of surprises, so I wouldn't be surprise if future historians look back on this as one of the pivotal elections in American history. I think this election marks the beginning of a transition to a seventh party system in which Nixon's South Strategy is no longer viable and the unholy union between religious nuts and the owner class has been broken at the same time the Democratic Party can no longer be a party for the upper-middle class white demographic alone.

Interesting, Trump not only won the primary, it was a landslide even for a two-candidate race, and he was in a 17-way race. That makes the landslide even more incredible. So when I say that Trump has a very good chance of defeating Hillary, there is plenty of basis for that belief. Now that Trump has eliminated all competition on the GOP side, he is focusing his full attention on Hillary and he's being just as effective at tearing her apart as he has been with every GOP candidate.

The previously unthinkable Trump administration is right now quite plausible.

60   Dan8267   2016 Jun 9, 9:58am  

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

lostand confused says

If Hillary's superdelegates switch to bernie-he is the nominee.

If frogs had wings, they could just fly gently down after every jump, instead of bumping their asses so much...

The flaw in this idiot's, for lack of a better word, thinking is that frogs cannot grow wings but the superdelegates most certain can, and have considerable incentive to, switch their votes and doing so would be fulfilling the very purpose of their existence.

So dumbass should really have said, if money could buy things, then having lots of it would make you rich.

61   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Jun 9, 10:19am  

Dan8267 says

1. You can't just put "-splaining"

Take it up with blow and the nytDan8267 says

3. Falsely accusing someone of belittling black

In your head, stating that blacks got their votes wrong, because they were ignorant is not belittling? Dan8267 says

. It is unethical of you to use African Americans as pawns in

Look in the mirror. I don't have to use anyone as a pawn or come up with convoluted arguments, because HC beat Bernie fair and square. Anyway, I voted for Bernie. But it's time for him to move on.

62   Dan8267   2016 Jun 9, 12:18pm  

YesYNot says

Take it up with blow and the ny

The opinion of one New York Times editor does not reflect the opinions of all NYT editors, and even if it did, one can disagree with opinions, but not facts. People are attacking my factual claims, not my opinions, and that makes them wrong. The fact remains that Bernie Sanders has a long history of supporting civil rights particularly for African Americans whereas Hillary Clinton supported the polices that led to the routine murder of unarmed black people, including a sleeping 9-year-old girl, that is exactly what the #blacklivesmatter movement is trying to fight. This is not opinion. It's fact.

63   Dan8267   2016 Jun 9, 12:19pm  

YesYNot says

In your head,

It is a fact that you have no idea what is going on in my head. Don't pretend to have access to my thoughts. That is the epitome of a straw man argument.

64   Dan8267   2016 Jun 9, 12:21pm  

thunderlips11 says

She supported the Bankruptcy Reform Act, also.

If ever there was an act named in double speak.

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