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So he worked security & had a legal weapon?
50 killed,just collateral damage.The 2nd Amendment needs blood to survive.

Just think how many more would be dead if he had carried rocks,knives,sticks,broken bottles.
We need to ban these items to save lives because of the ease of killing that they allow.

One good thing is that no White American has killed another White American with a legal firearm.
U.S.A.! ,U.S.A.!,U.S.A.!

Yep - subject of TWO investigations by FBI prior to attack.
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/index.html

Man arrested on way to LA Gay Parade with weapons, suspected explosives.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gay-pride-la-weapons-20160612-snap-story.html

Betcha after this happened last night, agents ran to their desks and looked up people Omar talked to and decided to do some check-ups.

Hey Joe where you goin with that gun and bomb vest?

Strategist says

I would not eat Islamic or Christian skittles.

Your days are numbered.

Skittles are the new Kool Aid

HydroCabron says

Because the gun nut who did this is likely a brown Muslim gun nut

A registered Democrat gun nut...not completely unlike those freeloader perps in France. Interesting how they managed to get their hands on guns in Europe where the gun control is so much stiffer.

The HuffPo spin was rich...bet you agreed with every last word there....motivated by homophobia not religion....lol...what percentage of ISIS sympathizers are homophobic (hint its 100%, because that's what the Quran says)...even the gays in ISIS publically are homophobic.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/orlando-shooting-religion_us_575d76d5e4b0e39a28add69f?u4ejflhhu8nkx1or=#comments

HEY YOU says

Just think how many more would be dead if he had carried rocks,knives,sticks,broken bottles.

We need to ban these items to save lives because of the ease of killing that they allow.

Just like in France and Norway. Wow that that gun control works so well in these scenarios. I say this as a person who doesn't own a gun.

Just a few weeks ago, at a Sanford Islamic Center (near Orlando),a Mosque invites anti-gay Islamic Scholar. Says that killing gays is Merciful.

www.youtube.com/embed/qBlwxqqAprQ

Says the only way Gays and Lesbians can be Redeemed is to be Executed, which is Compassionate (Most Merciful!)

thunderlips11 says

Just a few weeks ago, at a Sanford Islamic Center (near Orlando),a Mosque invites anti-gay Islamic Scholar. Says that killing gays is Merciful.

Says the only way Gays and Lesbians can be Redeemed is to be Executed, which is Compassionate (Most Merciful!)

Why is this mother fucker walking freely in America?

MMR says

A registered Democrat gun nut...not completely unlike those freeloader perps in France. Interesting how they managed to get their hands on guns in Europe where the gun control is so much stiffer.

Yep, Smuggled in along with drugs and rapefugees by the same Muslim Organized Crime Gangs. People talk terror, look at who commits very disproportionate Crimes in France. Amazing how many impoverished Algerians on Welfare own multiple properties. How did they afford it?

Apparently, the USA has such a wonderful track record of White-Black relations, we figured we were playing the game on Easy and decided to up the challenge by bringing in our 1500-year civilizational opponents to integrate.

Carter made every Iranian student have their Visa checked, banned all Iranian immigration except for enemies of the Ayatollah's regime.

Here is polifact trying to spin it away, but can't really:
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2015/dec/17/why-trumps-muslim-ban-idea-isnt-really-same-jimmy-/

Ban gay marriage!
Ban birth control!
Ban Muslims!

Ban weapons? Hell, no! Banning things never works!

thunderlips11 says

Carter made every Iranian student have their Visa checked, banned all Iranian immigration except for enemies of the Ayatollah's regime.

this guy was an American citizen. SO how is checking his visa, which he doesn't have going to help? Seriously will you bigoted dumbfucks try to be less dumbfuckish?

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

this guy was an American citizen

in a family that immigrated during Charlie Wilson's war when we were stirring Islamic radicalism and the Mujaheddin were a useful "enemy of my enemy". The dad is dodgy and sounds loosely screwed but not religious, just obsessed with Pashtun territorial and ethnic issues back home:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/12/orlando-shooting-suspects-father-hosted-a-political-tv-show-and-even-tried-to-run-for-the-afghan-presidency/?hpid=hp_hp-banner-main_wv-father-341pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

The shooter doesn't seem like a jihadist. Another violent whacko punk with weapons looking for a dog to kick.

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

this guy was an American citizen. SO how is checking his visa, which he doesn't have going to help? Seriously will you bigoted dumbfucks try to be less dumbfuckish?

Low info kneejerk, the father was a refugee. Had he not been allowed in the country, he probably would have been on the receiving end of a Mi-24's rocket. No father, no kid, 50+ people alive today.

If 2nd Gen Americans aren't integrating and are being attracted to Radical Islam - like the Tsarnev brothers - we need a temporary ban on Muslim Immigration.

It's not like BK is paying $15/hr to flip burgers and the economy will collapse if we halt MENA immigration.

Back in the 70s, when Red Army or the Bader-Meinhof gang robbed banks and shot people, then called or wrote claiming responsibility, did the Media and Liberals run around saying "They're not really Marxist Terrorists, just angry young people with firearms."?

thunderlips11 says

the father was a refugee

actually both parents were from afghanistan, per http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting.html :

ORLANDO, Fla. — A gunman who pledged allegiance to the Islamic State opened fire in a crowded gay nightclub here early Sunday in a shooting that left 50 dead and another 53 wounded. The gunman, identified as Omar Mateen, had been investigated twice by the F.B.I. for possible connections to terrorism, the bureau said, but no ties could be confirmed.

Mr. Mateen, 29, an American citizen whose parents were from Afghanistan, called 911 and talked about the Islamic State at the time of the massacre at the Pulse nightclub, the worst mass shooting in American history, Ronald Hopper, an assistant agent in charge of the F.B.I.’s Tampa Division, said at a news conference. Other federal officials said more explicitly that he had declared allegiance to the group.

It's all Obama's fault!!!

If only the gays wore burkas-this would not happen-or so the leftie apologists will claim.

Rumors:

* More than one shooter (50 dead, 53 injured, that's over 100 bullets not accounting for any missed; that's at least four 30rnd mags)
* Omar married for a second time... name appears in FL Public Records as Noor Zahi Salman. Media is only reporting wife #1 is either from NJ or a green card wife from Uzbekistan?
* This wife was simply referred to as a "Woman he had a son with." They also divorced, and he sold his house to his sister for $10 in a quit claim deed, according to public records.

For some reason, the media is skittish on reporting about his last, second wife.

They should have had this Omar guy in the Special Forces. Even if he had 9 mags x 30 = 270 bullets, that's some good shooting. Reports that some survivors have been shot a dozen times. One or two shot kills, even at close range, is video games, not reality.

Remember it's summer in Orlando, you can't cover up a tac vest with 9 mags under a Trenchcoat to enter a club - certainly not at a fashionable gay club where you "dress to impress". Also, the AR-15 is a long arm. It would be tough to cover up even if you wore a trenchcoat.

thunderlips11 says

They should have had this Omar guy in the Special Forces. Even if he had 9 mags x 30 = 270 bullets, that's some good shooting. Reports that some survivors have been shot a dozen times. One or two shot kills, even at close range, is video games, not reality.

The weird thing about mass shootings, with the exceptions of Anders Breivik, James Huberty, Charles Whitman, Virginia Tech, Dunblaine, Killeen (Luby's) and the Australian guy, is that the death tolls are usually much lower than the amount of ammo and the weaponry would suggest.

It's a miracle that the Columbine killers only got 14 - same with the Aurora shooter (12). As for Oregon, Stockton, Jonesboro, Colorado Springs, Springfield, Chattanooga, Charleston, Marysville, Oak Creek, Oakland, Brookfield and Isla Vista: all could have been much worse than single figures, but weren't. Roseburg and San Bernardino could have been a lot worse.

It's damned hard to kill more than a few people, fortunately. I don't know how Huberty did it in a McDonald's, which usually has exits in three directions.

This guy in Orlando even missed quite a few people hiding in closets, bathrooms and air ducts, but still killed 50 and wounded 53. The club apparently had a dance floor which was a cul-de-sac, but given the statistics on mass shootings it's still no mean achievement. He hit 103 people in a bulding with several fire exits.

lostand confused says

If only the gays wore burkas-this would not happen-or so the leftie apologists will claim.

I've never heard any leftist say anything whatsoever like that at all. Why must rightwing retards lie so much? thunderlips11 says

They should have had this Omar guy in the Special Forces. Even if he had 9 mags x 30 = 270 bullets, that's some good shooting. Reports that some survivors have been shot a dozen times. One or two shot kills, even at close range, is video games, not reality.

Remember it's summer in Orlando, you can't cover up a tac vest with 9 mags under a Trenchcoat to enter a club - certainly not at a fashionable gay club where you "dress to impress". Also, the AR-15 is a long arm. It would be tough to cover up even if you wore a trenchcoat.

Popular gay clubs worry about acts of violence, there must be multiple security cameras on the property. I haven't heard anything about an accomplice, but it wouldn't be impossible.

The other potential reasons for the body count I can think of:

* "Friendly Fire" by SWAT
* People trampling others.
* Asphyxiation from the fires he apparently started.

Tragedy indeed. But this is what happens when these people reject god, no one is there to look out for them. Hell is a very miserable place too.

FortWayne says

Tragedy indeed. But this is what happens when these people reject god, no one is there to look out for them. Hell is a very miserable place too.

It happened because the shooter accepted his God. He has now been rewarded with 72 virgins. Go figure.

FortWayne says

Tragedy indeed. But this is what happens when these people reject god, no one is there to look out for them. Hell is a very miserable place too

So the Christians in Syria and iraq that are being slaughtered, raped and sold into slavery is because they rejected God?

Obligatory:

even after being investigated by the FBI for ties to terrorist groups, because the right wing and the NRA have viciously fought any attempt to restrict weapons to anyone regardless of mental illness or terrorism.

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The FBI has stopped ZERO plots of domestic terrorism this millennia. Just like any and every other branch of our domestic spying apparatus. Why is everyone surprised that this time was different?

You voted for the Patriot Act. You sat by silently while trillions of dollars of public wealth were squandered on surveillance to "make us safer" lol. You are responsible for the fifty dead.

Rather than say this is a lie, why not refute the claim with evidence. All you would have to do is post one instance where an act of domestic terrorism was thwarted, and you'd prove your point.

My assertion is not stupid.

The information collection agencies, that spy on every last citizen in this country, all the time, has cast too wide a net. They knew about this guy, but couldn't possibly have done anything to prevent his actions, because they put equally weighted attention to random protesters from BLM and the like. They have rendered themselves completely ineffective, anyone that watched any footage from yesterday should have noticed the thousand man army on the ground, along with the billions of dollars of military equipment. They were incapable of preventing even a single death, rather just a highly ineffective and expensive clean up crew, most likely to assualt a/o harass innocent bystanders than prevent crime

errc says

They were incapable of preventing even a single death

At least they did something, unlike San Jose or Baltimore City police.

Wow this whole gay voting block switching over to Trump has really ruffled some duck feathers this morning!!!

Blame me of talking out both sides of my mouth, then goes on to talk out both sides of your mouth.

I don't consider the FBI stopping their own phony ops as a redeeming success story

mell says

Don't trip over yourself. Practically it has the same effect if a country consists of 90%+ people of the official faith. It's a much more effective and peaceful measure than bombing a random - mostly unaffiliated - country and toppling their leader.

What a horrible solution - it involves no violence, doesn't use up expensive multimillion dollar missiles, doesn't risk US lives or carry the chance of collateral damage - and it works really well.

Totally irresponsible.

Invade and Invite is so much better.