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It does seem to be true that the only people assaulting anyone for political reasons in the US are Democrats.

Where are the conservatives assaulting Hillary supporters? Does not happen.

But there seem to be many instances of people with Trump clothing or signs being assaulted by Hillary supporters.

My theory is that the extremely leftist ministry of propaganda we call the mainstream media is giving people the idea that they have license to "correct" opposing political views by any means necessary.
If you tell me I'm wrong, have an argument to back yourself up.

Donald Trump just said, "Maybe second amendment people can stop Hillary judges" but yeah, it is liberals with calls to violence.

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/9/12415644/donald-trump-second-amendment-joke

Conservative "logic"
Individual acts of violence from the left represent the entire left, even though immediately disavowed by everyone on the left.

Actual calls for violence, over and over, from the GOP candidate don't count for anything.

zzyzzx says

BLOOMFIELD — A 62-year-old man was beaten with a crowbar by a complete stranger who allegedly took issue with the man's Donald Trump T-shirt, police said Tuesday.

Clearly a Hillary supporter and not a liberal. He would have probably assaulted the guy for wearing a Bernie or Bust t-shirt as well.

How the hell are HIllary's goons in any way, shape, or form liberal? I'm the most liberal person on PatNet and I want Trump to win. It's the best way to destroy the GOP and reform the Democrats.

Once again, your confusing the hateful leftists like TrigglyPuff for liberals. That's bad on you. A better title for this thread would have been More "liberal" tolerance.

zzyzzx says

A 62-year-old man was beaten with a crowbar by a complete stranger who allegedly took issue with the man's Donald Trump T-shirt, police said Tuesday.

May I be the first to say #TrumpLivesMatter?

Oh, you object that all lives matter and therefore we should ignore all these assaults? Clearly there is a disproportionate number of Trump supporters being attacked. To ignore that fact is just plain wrong.

Dan8267 says

How the hell are HIllary's goons in any way, shape, or form liberal?

Depends on your definition of liberal. From the Wikipedia:

Whereas classical liberalism emphasises the role of liberty, social liberalism stresses the importance of equality.

Further, I'd say that social liberalism stresses taking money from the wealthy and giving it to the poor. This can be good or bad.

Good: Taxing money gained by unproductive rent-seeking, such as rent on land.
Bad: Taxing money gained through productive effort and talent.

Dan8267 says

I'm the most liberal person on PatNet

Maybe, or maybe not

rando says

It does seem to be true that the only people assaulting anyone for political reasons in the US are Democrats

Yes, there's no way that this was a desperation move that some alt right asshole would do this to give Trump the closest thing to positive press he can get.

rando says

Further, I'd say that social liberalism stresses taking money from the wealthy and giving it to the poor.

The way that I would frame it is they have different priorities for government spending. Not even necessarily more spending. So called safety nets such as food stamps and even more so social security and medicare (that we pay special taxes for) should not be considered taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor.

But of course people who make incomes above the cost of living in poverty are going to be paying most of the taxes. It amazes me that some people like to cite the fact that families making under say 50K pay no federal taxes, while THEY DO PAY SOCIAL SECURITY PAYROLL TAXES that get spent by the government as if it's part of general tax revenues, allowing the rich to pay less. And then the republicans say "we can't afford these entitlements !"

rando says

Good: Taxing money gained by unproductive rent-seeking, such as rent on land.

Bad: Taxing money gained through productive effort and talent.

I'm quite fine with taxing the talented and productive way more, if:

1) They have grown to where economies of scale or the level of talent take their success to an entirely different level. I'm talking Mark Zuckerberg, or anyone for that matter that's making millions per year.

2) THey live off investments from inherited wealth in any kinds of businesses, not just ones that we often refer to as "rents."

Tax rates should scale up once you're above 300K or so for a family. I know it is tricky, because what if they live in Manhatten, or SF, or what if they are football players or entertainers or for that matter anyone that has a short lived period of high income. So I can appreciate arguments against going too crazy with it. But maybe something like 50% for income from 300k to 500K, then 60% for 500k to 1 million, and then 70% on the part of annual income above that. Or something along those lines.

jazz music says

THOSE WHO OWN deserve the wealth they own and all the royalties that accrue from that wealth

its pretty simple. When a locale is mostly white, middle class educated, the regional politics will take the tax base and put it into municipal improvements, everything ranging from bridges to libraries, to legal infrastructure. That is the time to buy, because the tax payers(who may even be renters) will slowly improve the quality and value of the area. This is the point at which the real money gets in. These sorts of regions are always very white, usually religious(christian).

as the region improves, it becomes "desirable" (magically!), at this point the modern pattern is to begin to install liberal ideas- racial equality, feminism, multiculturalism.etc. They will even move in other groups to change the demographics of the area- advertising to gays, blacks anyone. This eventually leads to PEAK DESIRABILITY. Blacks will move in because they can restrain the police, gays will move in because they can restrain religious groups from criticizing them, etc. Rental rates climb precipitously. Value of property doubles, triples, quadruples. At this point, the real money begins to move out very slowly and clandestinely.

note that the original investors DIDNT PAY TO HAVE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPED. They merely took the tax money of the individual owners and renters and improved the value of their own property with it!

The region is now a motley circus of idiots baffoons liberals communists homosexuals, feminists and assorted nitwits. People begin to mock the local culture as "eclectic" - but still liveable. As though the increasing insanity is some kind of joke to be set aside in favor of all the great local restaurants and artistic achievements. This is the period as the real money begins to move out or build fortresses(both legal and physical) to protect themselves from this poison culture.

Soon this culture starts to dominate. The tax base expands, tax liabilities expand, people dont notice at first that the mysterious "COST OF LIVING" is exploding! OMG WHAT HAPPENED? WHY SO EXPENSIVE. but many people have their lives rooted in the region(jobs, kids, friends, kids friends, kids schools) and can't leave. They can't quit their jobs, their houses are not as marketable as they were originally etc. They are MODERN DAY SERFS. Captives of "liberalism".

jazz music says

This man is worth 50 billion dollars and takes $1 per year in pay. Using him as a benchmark?

do you actually believe the retarded facebook story? Californians are so dumb it hurts.www.DIGdWsxHJlM

FP says

Dan8267 says

I'm the most liberal person on PatNet

Maybe, or maybe not

I think prostitution and having sex in public should be legal. Anyone else on board?

If it doesn't interfere with you rights, it should be legal.

rando says

Depends on your definition of liberal.

Conservatives want to misuse the definition of liberal because they oppose but cannot make any argument against liberalism, the anti-thesis of the social conservationism practiced by the American south. Redefining liberalism to be leftist hate propaganda is a straw man argument they hope to use to discredit, not the left, but the liberalism they could never take down through honest means.

We're talking Hillary supporters here. Low info voters. Very, very stupid people. Don't waste too much time trying to reason their actions. They are brainwashed anti-Americans, acting on impulse.

It's not their fault, they're victims

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Dan8267 says

I think prostitution and having sex in public should be legal. Anyone else on board?

Sure.

There are so many comments to troll here. I may attack in a while.
Once again HEY YOU's brilliance is brought into the light.
BE CAREFUL WHO YOU PISS OFF.

The only value system that applies belongs to the one who's holding the crowbar.
All other laws,cultural,societal,religious,right/wrong values are invalid,null & void.

errc says

We're talking Hillary supporters here. Low info voters. Very, very stupid people. Don't waste too much time trying to reason their actions. They are brainwashed anti-Americans, acting on impulse.

It's not their fault, they're victims

Hahaha, says the butthurt Bernie supporter who refuses to vote against Trump.

I guess if you know for sure that Trump is going to lose, then a protest vote for Jill Stein or whomever makes sense. But if it were close, and you knowingly vote in indirectly for Trump to be PResident, then you shouldn't be throwing stones at Clinton voters as anti-American.

I still laugh every time I think about the 150.

Quigley says

My theory is that the extremely leftist ministry of propaganda we call the mainstream media is giving people the idea that they have license to "correct" opposing political views by any means necessary.

If you tell me I'm wrong, have an argument to back yourself up.

Got any facts to back up your theory.

some pretty annoying dumb people on here.

Is Trump involved in attacks against his supporters to get more attention & free news coverage?
Is it Trump's fault?

The assailant has not been found,yet,& ASSHOLES
already know the motive, absolute genius.

no idea what the hell you are ranting about. take your meds.

The Original Bankster says

some pretty annoying dumb people on here.

My cousin keeps telling me: "You're going to die dumb."

HEY YOU says

You're going to die dumb.

my guess is he reacted in some idiotic way to my first post above because HE IS ONE OF THOSE IDIOTS WHO ARRIVE IN THE LATER STAGES OF REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

its a huge concern that there are very few normal minded people left. They don't realize the "ethos" they are fed is nonsense. They are totally committed. I know many people who can ONLY LIVE IN SUCH A REGION that has established liberalism. To them anything else is "dumb". Often times it's their wife who demands it, ironically because they have an over 80% chance of being divorced by the same woman in such an environment.

Everyone forget about the damn old fool at a Trump "Get 'em outta here." rally.
He ambushed punched a black guy as he was leaving the rally.

Republicans,the Party of Peace.

Dan8267 says

How the hell are HIllary's goons in any way, shape, or form liberal?

By self-identification, duh.

Everyone forget about the damn old fool at a Trump "Get 'em outta here." rally.
He ambushed punched a black guy as he was leaving the rally.

Republicans,the Party of Peace.
The Original Bankster says

its a huge concern that there are very few normal minded people left. They don't realize the "ethos" they are fed is nonsense. They are totally committed. I know many people who can ONLY LIVE IN SUCH A REGION that has established liberalism. To them anything else is "dumb". Often times it's their wife who demands it, ironically because they have an over 80% chance of being divorced by the same woman in such an environment.

BUFFALO SPRINGFIELD
For What It's Worth Lyrics

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

HEY YOU says

There's something happening here

the 60s we're when all this nonsense started. The Hippies began it. Problem is that today's seniors(Boomers) believe they did a great job.

hippies were an early NWO social engineering experiment.

if you trace the beginnings of the "60s Counterculture" you will find CIA experiments.

http://www.frankolsonproject.org/Articles/PsychologyToday.html

The Original Bankster says

note that the original investors DIDNT PAY TO HAVE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPED. They merely took the tax money of the individual owners and renters and improved the value of their own property with it!

@"The Original Bankster" You sound very much like a Georgist there.

And that's a good thing, IMHO.

rando says

You sound very much like a Georgist there

LAND: the original "Means of Production"

in reality Im an Asteroidist. I believe the solution to man's problems is a giant asteroid striking Earth from space.

marcus says

Yes, there's no way that this was a desperation move that some alt right asshole would do this to give Trump the closest thing to positive press he can get.

The leaked DNC emails suggest that it's most likely DNC interns.

Ironman says

Marcus is some seriously mentally deranged individual.

the loudest people on social media are always the ones who are the most deranged and detached from reality.

sharing and hearing views on the net is really one of the worst ways to learn about the world and survive. Actually it usually runs counter to that.

jazz music says

Commie pinko red loving were the magic words to make anything disappear if it threatens supremacy of greater wealth and power.

You are conflating everything. The problem is not that there isn't enough redistribution from have to have-nots, there is plenty, but it is taken from the upper middle and upper class which builds, maintains, and provides everything. You are being played by your progressive elite sheisters while you claim to be smart. The majority of taxes is being paid by an increasingly smaller amount of people. Math simply is and cannot be argued with. The taxes are taken from the most productive and prevent them from making the transition to wealthy which they deserve, while protecting a small class of government-connected uber-wealthy and and an increasing base of have-nots thinking they are entitled to free shit. Ironically the intended and achieved inflation also prevents the lower, the middle and the upper class to move up in the same way. Do you think they give a shit if they are called commie pinkos, regressive lefty elite or right-wing asshole capitalists? They don't because they keep making more money while you tell hard working people that they should give more free shit to the have-nots who unfortunately more often than not do not deserve it. Classical divide and conquer. Nobody making an income below 500K should be paying more than 20% income tax, in fact a flat tax on everything would be best, including capital gains, while closing ALL loop-holes and deductions. Of course that would make lawyers and CPAs and to a large extent the IRS unemployed overnight and we can't let that happen, more unproductive work we have to protect.

The Original Bankster says

its a huge concern that there are very few normal minded people left. They don't realize the "ethos" they are fed is nonsense. They are totally committed. I know many people who can ONLY LIVE IN SUCH A REGION that has established liberalism. To them anything else is "dumb". Often times it's their wife who demands it, ironically because they have an over 80% chance of being divorced by the same woman in such an environment.

Very true.