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Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW): They're DONE with women & wives. Menimism


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2016 Sep 27, 9:41am   24,983 views  58 comments

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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/reddit-mgtow-men-sex-sleep-women-manosphere-meninist-a7330276.html

Inside the world of men who've sworn never to sleep with women again
Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) believe men are always victims in relationships 

The first rule of Fight Club – the 1999 film about an underground boxing club for men grappling with masculinity and dead-end jobs – was to never talk about fight club.

Almost two decades after its release, tens of thousands of men have formed a real-life online community called MGTOW, or Men Going Their Own Way.

Their first rule? Abandoning all romantic relationships with women.

On Reddit alone, some 15,000 readers are subscribed to the MGTOW page which declares it is for "men going our own way by forging our own identities and paths to self-defined success; cutting through collective ideas of what a man is.”

Other websites including MGTOW.com are also dedicated to what they see as each man's fight for sovereignty of himself. And despite their hatred for women, homosexuality isn't accepted, either.

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Posts on the Reddit page offer an insight into their world: They range from worrying that future sex bots will be hacked by central government, to encouraging men to divorce their wives. They also debate how "even men in Hollywood" are “cuckolded” and wronged by women.

Others discuss the merits of visiting prostitutes, and how pop songs are feminist propaganda. The more you scroll, the darker it becomes.

One recent post described how women “fake orgasms often, because it makes men more submissive”. Another talked of “ditching” his “blue pill friends.” Others proudly declare that they are still virgins.

“I want sex and company, but I don’t want/can’t put in the effort to get it,” wrote another user on the MGTOW.com forum. 

The MGTOW community has a pretty clear set of expectations for themselves and the wider world that are based in meninism: a counteraction to feminism which sees women’s rights directly disadvantage men.

While feminists might argue that their movement aims to help both men and women break free of harmful gender stereotypes, meninists disagree.

To them, men are the victims of heterosexual relationships, comparable to a horse with a cart strapped it its back. MGTOWs borrow heavily from pop-culture to explain their beliefs, particularly the film the Matrix where the Chosen One chooses to reject his blinkered "blue pill" life in favour of the awareness offered by the "red pill". 

The ultimate goal for MGTOWs is total freedom from societal constraints - known as Level 4.

“Level 0” involves “taking the red pill” and recognising gender equality is a sham. Level one sees a man rejecting long-term relationships but engaging in sexual encounters, which he will reject in level two.

As the MGTOW movement is entangled with alt-right and libertarian politics, the third step sees the man focusing on earning money in order to sustain himself. 

Japan has a worrying number of virgins
In this quest, obstacles include feminists; white knights (men who are “chivalrous” towards women); social justice warriors; those who are pro-LGBT rights and support safe spaces, amongst other things. 

Their heroes? The so-called herbivore men of Japan who have no interest in finding long-term female partners, a label with which half of men in their 20s and 30s identify.

The origins of MGTOW are unclear. The MGTOW website loftily suggests their ideals hark back to “Schopenhauer, Tesla, Beethoven, Galileo, or even Jesus Christ”, and equates it to "fire".

“MGTOW is not as old as fire, but it's as old as a man's first discovery of it. If MTGOW is fire, then perhaps feminism is gasoline,” reads the MGTOW.com history page. A more concrete theory is that MGTOW was created by online aliases Solaris and Ragnar in the 2000s, when they penned a manifesto calling for men and women to adhere to traditional gender roles and to fight for pared back govermment.

And while their communities may be virtual, their determination seems very real indeed. 

#IfItFloatsFlysOrFucks

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22   Ceffer   2016 Sep 27, 1:03pm  

Being chained to a radiator is marriage?

The paranoid patriarchs of the bible got it wrong. Men were cast from the rib of Eve, not vice versa.

Men spend their time trying to overcome the narcissistic insult with bluster and grandiosity.

23   Rin   2016 Sep 27, 1:19pm  

epitaph says

I'd never tell my kid that the odds of becoming a NFL quarterback

Apples and Oranges. A kid with NCAA potential, stands out among his varsity crowd in HS. He's scouted by agents and is offered full scholarships to places like Michigan or Illinois. If he fails to make professional, at least he got a free ride out of his school and probably had some fun during March Madness.

In contrast, relationships today are about alimony and childcare support. Where's the fun there?

I work 6 days per week and bonk a hoe on day 7. It's efficient and it works.

24   epitaph   2016 Sep 27, 1:52pm  

I agree they are both terrible candidates, but with Clinton, you know you are going to get lies, deceit, and corruption.

Trump is a mystery box.

www.youtube.com/embed/yZpIog7e-R4

25   Ceffer   2016 Sep 27, 2:14pm  

I'll never be slathered by gushing fountains of pussy juice again, sob sob!

26   junkmail   2016 Sep 27, 2:18pm  

With ladies like this around... you won't find me signing up to any boys club.

27   Ceffer   2016 Sep 27, 2:44pm  

I would suspect that this is a canard. In the first place, how common were Genghis Khan's genes in the gene pool before the rapes, since his genes were merely derivative of his stock? Since his individual gene stock was serially divided and diluted through generational attrition, how much of it was already in common with his "victims" and the common ancestors/descendants of his people in general?

All you can really say is that Genghis Khan's genes were common to the population and persisted. Any genetic trait that is advantageous, even at the level of a percentage point, will over many generations tend to proliferate. Any that are not advantageous will tend to dissipate.

Of course, GenghisKhanFuck mythology is as good a reason to keep being slathered by pussy juice as any.

28   Ceffer   2016 Sep 27, 3:07pm  

The gene pool is a bubbling puddle. Viewing it from the vantage point of individuality is biologic narcissism.

From that vantage point, impregnating your own daughters and resultant granddaughters is the best way to ensure that your loosely bolted gene formation remains intact.

30   Ceffer   2016 Sep 27, 3:55pm  

A short spell of boinking and a long spell of mizries. Poor men.

31   Dan8267   2016 Sep 27, 4:16pm  

Rin says

'They say that there's a red pill and that there's a blue pill.

I see the Red, White, and Blue'

You need to check your white pill privilege.

32   thenuttyneutron   2016 Sep 27, 4:43pm  

I should get a fake ID and go fuck all the lonely women out there. They want cock at least once a month and this is at the best time to reproduce and it not cost me anything more than a dinner and a box of cheap wine.

33   Dan8267   2016 Sep 27, 4:46pm  

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Hmmm, sounds familiar.

Damn, you beat me to it. I switched videos though because that one didn't play outside YouTube.

Conan is a very underrated film. It's very deep and symbolic.

34   thenuttyneutron   2016 Sep 27, 4:50pm  

www.youtube.com/embed/AloNERbBXcc

"Fuck a lot of women. Not just one woman. A lot of women!"

Why did I not have such sage advise from my grandfathers?

35   Booger   2016 Sep 27, 4:58pm  

freespeechforever says

men who've sworn never to sleep with women again

Where does Dan sign up?

36   Ceffer   2016 Sep 27, 4:58pm  

All women have to do to reproduce is roll over and bite the sheets. Nobody has to worry about their evolutionary future. On the other hand, Men.....???

37   thenuttyneutron   2016 Sep 27, 5:09pm  

Ceffer says

All women have to do to reproduce is roll over and bite the sheets. Nobody has to worry about their evolutionary future. On the other hand, Men.....???

They just have to do all the work of raising them and for that I thank them.

38   Y   2016 Sep 27, 8:31pm  

They rose from the smoldering ashes of georgies...led by Lt Dan...(que in YMCA)..

freespeechforever says

The origins of MGTOW are unclear

39   Ceffer   2016 Sep 27, 9:00pm  

If IHLlary started sliding down the poles, Rosie and Huma would leave her.

40   Y   2016 Sep 27, 9:12pm  

I always get stuck on the "double r"...maybe it's a rice krispie wedged beneath the key...

Ceffer says

If IHLlary

Ranina ranina says

as IHLiarry

41   zzyzzx   2016 Sep 28, 7:29am  

Dan8267 says

we live in a hookup culture and pretending otherwise is foolish.

Obligatory:

This is from the 1985 movie Better off Dead

42   Dan8267   2016 Sep 28, 8:17am  

I want my two dollars.

43   Dan8267   2016 Sep 28, 10:34am  

Ran across this.

44   Rin   2016 Sep 28, 3:30pm  

Dan8267 says

Ran across this.

Man, here I am, simply wanting to f.uck hoes, because my c.ock likes it between a drink and listening to some heavy metal, whereas this guy is all over the map. Let's call him Rin^2.

45   Ceffer   2016 Sep 28, 5:47pm  

Japan is Rin-Nation!

46   Rin   2016 Sep 28, 6:27pm  

Ceffer says

Japan is Rin-Nation!

And then you've got these a.ssholes, criticizing me, for not buying into mainstream American BS, when the guys in Japan, have beaten me to it, by a generation or so.

47   freespeechforever   2016 Sep 28, 7:55pm  

If it flys, floats or fucks...

FREEDOM IS A BEAUTIFUL THING.

Men get screwed over in the United States and many western nations.

48   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Sep 28, 7:59pm  

Imagine if a man injected heroin and passed out in a parking lot with his toddler trying to wake him up, and merely got rehab time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/28/us/addicted-parents-get-their-fix-even-with-children-watching.html?_r=0

Imagine if a Wrestler or Boxer cried "The Match Judges said I was too fat to compete in the Contest! Boohoo hooh! Stop bodyshaming me!"

Imagine if a junkie father was arrested double digit times for assaulting police but got off because he was a father.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/19/woman-who-treated-police-like-a-personal-punchbag-avoids-jail-af/

#Pussypass

49   Dan8267   2016 Sep 29, 2:11pm  

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Neoliberalism created the resurgence is extreme left-right groups that are now emerging.

Don't give conservatives a deceitful marketing term. Call "neoliberalism" what it really is: paleocapitalism.

50   Dan8267   2016 Sep 29, 4:15pm  

jazz music says

And the only difference between "paleo" and now is that we all, me included, took that leap of faith that serving the rich now will lead us all to a happy future.

An old lie as well. Remember trickle-down economics? Remember cutting taxes for "job creators"? Remember expanding H1B Visas and outsourcing and NAFTA?

52   Dan8267   2016 Sep 29, 8:39pm  

jazz music says

She lived through the great depression.

A large part of why we have so much recklessness today in finance is that there are few people alive today who were around during the Great Depression. Human memory is only one life-time long. Lessons not personally lived through are considered irrelevant. It's amazing how foolish man is in the Information Age.

53   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Sep 30, 4:02pm  

TL;DR: There's always a possibility that a Hillary victory, even a substantial one, will result in the Elites taking more action against the populace, to make sure "it doesn't happen again" in case Consent wasn't Manageable.

There's so many scenarios that could happen, we have no idea.

I honestly believe voting for Hillary is as a vote to come as close to nuclear war we have been in decades.

54   Rew   2016 Sep 30, 4:15pm  

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

I honestly believe voting for Hillary is as a vote to come as close to nuclear war we have been in decades.

Explain? Under what pretext and drive does Clinton take us into a straight up national standing army vs national-standing-army conflict that could get nuclear? Isn't she just a continuation of neo-conservatisim that has shaped the country for the past two decades or more?

55   mell   2016 Sep 30, 4:43pm  

landtof says

thank you harry fucking reid. i can't even. both sides of the political press have had raised eyebrows over obamas expansion of presidential power as he has dictated his agenda on everything from war to climate to tranny's in the bathroom:

"While the president does have substantial discretion about how to enforce a law, he has no discretion about whether to do so. ... Of all the stretches of executive power Americans have seen in the past few years, the president's unilateral suspension of statutes may have the most disturbing long-term effects."

I'd agree with that. It's mainly because Boosh jr. engaged - like every president these days - in a larger unconstitutional war(crime) with grave consequences that Obummer is given sort of a free pass wrt being Authoritarian and unconstitutional. That and the patriot act. Obummer however went much farther on the authoritarian scale in many domestic (state and personal liberty) issues, be it raiding state-sanctioned Marijuana growers or raw dairy farmers, or on the bathroom/gender laws, just to name a few. Not to mention trampling any due process of the law in affairs such as fast-and-furious, zero prosecution of bankster fraud or completely abandoning the rule of law wrt the bailouts (screwing bond-holders out of their contracts by simple decree). To give him credit he was pretty effective at that and a few things I would even view as positive. How this makes him a less authoritarian or less unconstitutional leader though is beyond any rationale mind. I guess the fanboy / sports-team mentality applies here.

56   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Sep 30, 5:20pm  

Rew says

Explain? Under what pretext and drive does Clinton take us into a straight up national standing army vs national-standing-army conflict that could get nuclear? Isn't she just a continuation of neo-conservatisim that has shaped the country for the past two decades or more?

Hillary's called for a No-Fly Zone in Syria. Neither Al-Nusra/Al Qaeda nor ISIS have an Air Force. That means Assad (the legally recognized government of Syria for half a century) and Russia.

But Syria isn't enough for war.

What will be is if Hillary arms the Ukrainians and/or invites them into NATO. That's an existential threat to Russia. See Cuban Missile Crisis.

And yeah, it's as big a deal to Russia as the Chinese arming a Mexican government that just joined the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and agreed to host Chinese Troops and Planes in Cancun and Baja California.

57   Dan8267   2017 Aug 13, 10:01pm  

The biggest Mgtow debate is whether or not unicorns exist. We now have proof. Taylor Swift is a unicorn.

In fact she's a unicorn-pegasus hybrid, and that's awesome.

58   lostand confused   2017 Aug 14, 7:48am  

feminazis-what a world!

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