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521   marcus   2016 Nov 8, 10:01pm  

rando says

So it does seem to actually be true that either:

1. People were just not willing to tell pollsters their true level of support for Trump because of fear of the PC police.

2. The pollsters were simply lying.

OR they were not that far off. Hillary still probably wins the popular vote by a percent or two.

As for the swing states ? There are a lot of possible answers. How many used Diebold machines ? There's also the isue of how many people vote. Maybe the people that were hot to trot for Trump actually got out and voted in higher percentage than the Hillary voters.

522   anonymous   2016 Nov 8, 10:02pm  

Dan8267 says

I suspect 1 and 2.

Of course you do. Have some faith, Tyrone.

523   Rew   2016 Nov 8, 10:03pm  

YesYNot says

The comedy shows should be good for a while. It should also be real interesting watching the Republicans fight (work together) over the direction of the country.

Maybe the establishment Repubs and Dems get together and make stuff happen? Who knows.

The one we have now is massive uncertainty ... and that is what the markets and balance of powers hate most.

524   Rew   2016 Nov 8, 10:03pm  

All polls closed. Just counting left.

525   Peter P   2016 Nov 8, 10:04pm  

Rew says

Trump was just an odd candidate no one could predict.

I have been predicting that for months. (Well, Trump has not won YET.)

I also predicted Brexit.

526   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 8, 10:04pm  

You'd never know it was election night.

Andres Oppenheimer must be on suicide watch.

Clinton to media: Sweep the Leg

527   Dan8267   2016 Nov 8, 10:04pm  

Rew says

Trump was just an odd candidate no one could predict.

That's really the whole point. Isn't it? Both parties' establishments thought they could predict and control their voters. Both parties were wrong. Both parties are now going to change.

The voters have basically given both parties' establishment a big fuck you.

528   Y   2016 Nov 8, 10:05pm  

zactly.
he won't want to do the work. He will be a figure head and let the cabinet run things.

indigenous says

My theory is that he did this to build his brand and fucked up and won.

529   Rew   2016 Nov 8, 10:05pm  

PLEASE HOLD AMERICA ... WE WILL BE RIGHT WITH YOU ... YOUR VOTES ARE IMPORTANT TO US ...

www.youtube.com/embed/8PYKOo_jgJo

530   indigenous   2016 Nov 8, 10:05pm  

Peter P says

I have been predicting that for months. (Well, Trump has not won YET.)

I also predicted Brexit.

How?

531   Dan8267   2016 Nov 8, 10:05pm  

Peter P says

I also predicted Brexit.

Yeah, but I predicted that Miley Cyrus would do something slutty. You don't hear me bragging. Oh wait, you do in this post.

532   AllTruth   2016 Nov 8, 10:06pm  

Van Jones just pulled the Russia Card, too.

Double dick head.

533   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2016 Nov 8, 10:06pm  

Hillary YOU'RE FIRED!!

Next Comey will "resign" HA HA HA

534   indigenous   2016 Nov 8, 10:06pm  

Ranina ranina says

he won't want to do the work. He will be a figure head and let the cabinet run things.

That is the way it should be, Carter tried doing it all himself which led to his failure

536   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 8, 10:09pm  

Maine 3 out of 4 of it's electoral votes called for Hillary. The other one is too close to call.

537   turtledove   2016 Nov 8, 10:09pm  

Why is it taking so long to call some of these states? C'mon Michigan and Pennsylvania. Maybe Comey should help them out. His ability to read 65k emails per day is impressive and should be put to good use to speed up the vote counting, don't ya think?

538   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 8, 10:10pm  

Drudge reports Trump wins PA.

HARAMBE AVENGED!

539   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 8, 10:10pm  

zzyzzx:

Utah and Wisconsin were NOT previously called for Trump.

Utah was JUST called for Trump.

Wisconsin, nor Arizona have been yet (he'll win them, though).

540   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 8, 10:11pm  

p.s. Congratulations to me (I only missed Nevada):

"Time is NOW: Predict next President-elect. Revisit *Tonight*. Don't be shy.
By freespeechforever   Nov 2, 10:39am   ↑ You like this (6)   ↓ Dislike (1)   3 links   1,484 views   147 comments  
Trump.

Revolution is in the air, driven by largest block of angry, formerly disenfranchised voters in modern-American history.

Trump will get MANY votes of those in their 40s, 50s and 60s who've not voted in many, many years (maybe decades).

It's Brexit on steroids, driven by many of the reasons cited by Michael Moore.

It doesn't hurt his odds that Hillary is an utter piece-of-shit who causes even most Democratic-affiliated voters the need to hold their noses.

Biggest surprises:

1) Trump will win 80%+ of male vote.

2) Hillary's "massive" edge with women will fizzle into less than 9% advantage.

3) African-Americans will only cast 70% of the # of votes for Hillary that they did for Obama in 2008 or 2012.

4) Millennials will not turn out in anywhere near the numbers that they did in 2008, and those who do will vote in surprisingly large numbers for Jill Stein.

5) Trump will win North Carolina, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona and Pennsylvania (in addition to Florida & Ohio - he'll win by double digits in Ohio).

#EstablishmentInFullPanic

#AmericanBrexit

#MiddleClassRevolution"

541   Peter P   2016 Nov 8, 10:11pm  

turtledove says

His ability to read 65k email per day is impressive

I could read faster. It's called Ctrl+A, Del.

542   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2016 Nov 8, 10:11pm  

Peter P says

Rew says

Trump was just an odd candidate no one could predict.

https://patrick.net/?p=1298240&c=1343678#comment-1343678

1 Mark D Nov 7, 11:04pm ↑ Like (1) ↓ Dislike Edit Delete
Trump will destroy the evil & corrupted globalist. it will be the biggest upset ever.
a few has-been and nobody-cares celebrities will leave but oh well.

543   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 8, 10:12pm  

Hey, anybody order this Evan McMuffin? Nobody seems to want to claim it.

544   indigenous   2016 Nov 8, 10:14pm  

Why is there a delete button on your posts?

545   Dan8267   2016 Nov 8, 10:14pm  

turtledove says

Why is it taking so long to call some of these states? C'mon Michigan and Pennsylvania.

I know. I'm in Florida and I could have voted twice in the time these states are taking.

547   anonymous   2016 Nov 8, 10:16pm  

Dan8267 says

Tyrone?

Dan - Trump's about to fuck your wife...long-dick style

548   AllTruth   2016 Nov 8, 10:16pm  

Congrats to freespeechforever (really).

You called this, in terms of dynamics & states, closer than anyone I know IRL or in the media.

549   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 8, 10:16pm  

PA senator Pat Toomey re-elected.

550   Y   2016 Nov 8, 10:18pm  

@Patrick
Every post has a delete button. i clicked on a post not mine and got the window to "really delete?".
Meltdown??

551   mell   2016 Nov 8, 10:18pm  

AllTruth says

Congrats to freespeechforever (really).

You called this, in terms of dynamics & states, closer than anyone I know IRL or in the media.

Agreed, Great call.

552   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 8, 10:18pm  

AP calls House and Senate remain Republican. Trump effect! Republicans had way more senate seats up for grabs and Democrats couldn't flip them.

553   Dan8267   2016 Nov 8, 10:19pm  

just any guy says

Dan - Trump's about to fuck your wife...long-dick style

I think you might wanna reconsider that last part. See, I married me a powerful ugly creature.

How can you say that? How can you shame me in front of new people?

If I could make you purtier, I would.

554   AllTruth   2016 Nov 8, 10:20pm  

Michigan is taking forever because of Detroit. They are disorganized, clueless fucks.

Trump will win Michigan, so it's moot. 87% of Wayne County is in and Hillbama can't close the gap with the 13% reaminingnprecincts to report.

It's truly unreal that Trump won Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, and maybe Pennsylvania, etc.

555   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 8, 10:21pm  

Around 95K people on The_Donald over at Reddit.

556   zzyzzx   2016 Nov 8, 10:22pm  

I HAVE THE MOST INTENSE ELECTION ERECTION

557   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 8, 10:22pm  

Hey #NeverTrump Neocon Shits

Trump has done better than most Republican Candidates have done in ages. Bush 2004 didn't do this well...

zzyzzx is deplorable says

Around 95K people on The_Donald over at Reddit.

Send us Spicy Memes!!! Rarest of Pepes!!!

558   junkmail   2016 Nov 8, 10:22pm  

He's won. Even CNN talking about what a dt presidency looks like. Anderson trying to look nonchalant.

559   mell   2016 Nov 8, 10:26pm  

zzyzzx is deplorable says

I HAVE THE MOST INTENSE ELECTION ERECTION

I'm running around putting up old postcards with my huge MAGA erection glue gun. And I had sex this morning. This is truly re-energizing.

560   Dan8267   2016 Nov 8, 10:26pm  

Trump should thank Debbie Wasserman Schultz for his victory. She's probably the single person most responsible for Trump becoming president, followed by Edward Snowden.

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