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So it does seem to actually be true that either:
1. People were just not willing to tell pollsters their true level of support for Trump because of fear of the PC police.
2. The pollsters were simply lying.OR they were not that far off. Hillary still probably wins the popular vote by a percent or two.
As for the swing states ? There are a lot of possible answers. How many used Diebold machines ? There's also the isue of how many people vote. Maybe the people that were hot to trot for Trump actually got out and voted in higher percentage than the Hillary voters.
Diebold?
You saying it was rigged?
Goodbye Dunham!! Goodbye Schumer!!
I think you shouldn't be so racist, and go to Mexico instead of Canada.
I'd like to say one more thing, I'm happy for the bass who probably has already disappeared and is partying in FL. He takes a lot of heat on this site though his posts are often funny (not always serious) and I think he'd be a fun bbq host to go to. Here's to the ten pounder bass!
For the next four years I get to remind every fucking Hillary supporter that this election would have turned out differently under Sanders.
Funny how the guy no one hates does better than the candidate loathed by over half the population.
I'd like to say one more thing, I'm happy for the bass who probably has already disappeared and is partying in FL. He takes a lot of heat on this site though his posts are often funny (not always serious) and I think he'd be a fun bbq host to go to. Here's to the ten pounder bass!
I was thinking the same.
Trump's first executive order: Megyn Kelly must inform the state of the start of each of her periods.
Trump should thank Debbie Wasserman Schultz for his victory. She's probably the single person most responsible for Trump becoming president, followed by Edward Snowden.
Bull shit. Trump won because middle class white voters were the sleeping giant that woke up and handed him the victory.
Alert!!! Massive Disorder on Wall Street! Hillary's Top Supporters running Riot in Rage!!!
Did Schumer lose?
I mean Amy Schumer.
Yes, the middle class said Fuck You Obama and your policies. We do not want a 3rd term of your bullshit
Bull shit. Trump won because middle class white voters were the sleeping giant that woke up and handed him the victory.
It would have been different under a Trump v. Sanders election. A lot of middle class white people who voted for Trump would have voted for Sanders if given the chance. Hell, there are even black women who were Bernie or Busters as shown in the above video.
Clinton, Obama Issue Final Appeal in Philly
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By Caitlin Huey-Burns
November 08, 2016
PHILADELPHIA — On the verge of making history as the first woman president, Hillary Clinton closed out her campaign Monday focused on a more daunting task than the one on which she embarked 18 months ago: healing a torn and tired out nation.
Clinton turned to the City of Brotherly Love, where she accepted the Democratic nomination, and to President Obama, whose legacy will also be judged by voters on Tuesday, to begin the process at the end of the most divisive election campaign in memory.
After months of deriding Donald Trump on the campaign trail, at times with apparent delight, Obama framed the final hours of the presidential race as more than a referendum on Clinton’s opponent.
“You don't just have to vote against someone; you have somebody extraordinary to vote for,†he told an estimated 33,000 people gathered on a crisp autumn night outside Independence Hall—the largest event of the election cycle. “We now have the chance to elect a 45th president who will build on our progress.â€
The symbolic setting marked a passing of the political baton from one history-making Democrat to another. But if elected, Clinton would enter the White House under very different circumstances than Obama did.
Both she and Trump are the most unpopular candidates to ever seek the presidency, and if elected, either one would enter the highest office in the land with historically low approval ratings. Unlike Clinton, Trump has not committed to conceding the race if the vote tally goes against him, and continued talk of a rigged political system through the end of his campaign. Republican congressional candidates, for their part, have sold their campaigns as checks against a Clinton administration, and GOP committee chairs have already announced plans to investigate her.
“I have more to do to bring the country together,†she told reporters before boarding her campaign plane Monday morning for a final blitz through several key states, ending with a midnight rally in Raleigh, N.C.
In closing her campaign with events in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and the Tar Heel State, Clinton hinted at the longer goal. “Every issue you care about is at stake. And that is just the beginning,†she said in Philadelphia. “Because we have to bridge the divides in our country.â€
She continued: “I regret deeply how angry the tone of the campaign became.†A member of the audience yelled out, “Not your fault!â€
Yet some of her supporters, however enthused by a united Democratic Party, acknowledge the challenges for their nominee if she becomes president. “I think it’s going to be a gradual coming together. It’s not going to be an overnight success,†said Antin Galaj, a union glazier from Philadelphia who wore a “Hard Hat for Hillary.â€
“I think it will be a tough road ahead, but I think she also has the temperament to do it,†said Rosemari Hicks, a human resources manager from Merchantville, N.J.
Clinton campaigned as a bridge-not-wall-builder, centered her message on the theme “Stronger Together†and spoke of her vision for governing in a “warm purple space.†But she has also at times stoked the politics of division. During a Democratic primary debate last year, she answered “Republicans†when asked which enemy she was most proud to have.
Current polling indicates a Clinton victory -- the RealClearPolitics four-way average shows her leading by 3.3 percentage points -- but the chances of Democrats taking over the Senate are evenly split. The fallout over the FBI’s extended probe of emails tied to Clinton’s private server emboldened GOP candidates and created some headwinds for their Democratic challengers.
In his own speech here Monday night, the president criticized Pennsylvania GOP Sen. Pat Toomey, who is hoping to fend off challenger Katie McGinty. “If you think endless gridlock will help your family, you should vote Republican,†Obama said. But if you believe America can do better than that … you need to vote for Democrats up and down the ticket.â€
For her part, Clinton attempted to strike a more inclusive tone, but also attached herself firmly to Obama.
“I will be a president for all Americans -- Democrats, Republicans, Independents, not just the people who support me in this election, everyone, because I believe we all have a role to play in building a better, fairer, strong America, building on the progress that we have enjoyed under President Barack Obama over the last eight years,†she said.
She encouraged the crowd to “thank†the Obamas with their vote on Tuesday.
While there are risks to seeking a third term for the party holding the White House, Clinton calculated early on that Obama’s high approval rating and the popularity of first lady Michelle Obama would boost her candidacy, making up for flaws instead of creating liabilities. Indeed, the Obamas have become her most effective surrogates on the trail, energizing the diverse coalition they built over the past two presidential campaigns and often overshadowing former President Bill Clinton, who was tasked this cycle with luring white working-class Democrats back home.
After short remarks here, the 42nd president introduced Mrs. Obama as the “finest servant, supporter any candidate for president ever had.â€
The event served as a farewell address of sorts for the Obamas. “I’m also emotional because in many ways speaking here tonight is perhaps the last and most important thing that I can do for my country as first lady,†Mrs. Obama said. “We believe that we have a duty to ensure that this country is handed over to a leader that we all can trust.â€
Election Day, though, is about far more than nostalgia for her husband. It will serve as either a vote of confidence or opposition to his time in office. “All that progress goes down the drain if we don’t win,†Obama said in the college town of Ann Arbor, Mich., Monday afternoon.
“Whatever credibility I've earned after eight years as president, I am asking you to trust me on this one,†he said in Philadelphia. “I ask you to do for Hillary what you did for me. I ask you to carry her the same way you carried me. I ask you to make her better the same way you made me better.â€
Alexis Simendinger contributed to this report.
Trump is about to win Wisconsin AND Michigan and New Hampshire AND PENNSYLVANIA.
He will win Arizona, won Alaska, won Utah.
Unfucking-real.
Kill the neocons, President Trump.
Charge the cost of the bullet to their families.
Time for a late-night masturbatory celebration. Turtledove...where's your pic?
Woo hoo!
Good day to be Trump, Jeff Sessions, CIC, Ten pound bass, Thunderlips aka the Ron Jeremy guy, fan of tits, Michael Savage, and others.
Bad day to be any of the assorted Pat.net democrat parrots, Hildebeast, President Obama, that feminine guy on MSNBC with the bob haircut, MSM, the fucking global elites, and Hollywood celebs.
GO getem Trump and don't let the Republicans give you any shit either! We can vote them out, same as we did Hildeskank!
There's a lesson to be learned tonight. This election was all about anti-establishment sentiment. The two anti-establishment candidates were Trump and Sanders. The DNC foolishly when with an establishment candidate because they could not envision that the population was actually mad enough to not vote for one. They were wrong.
The other lesson is that the pollsters are full of shit
I just think that the pollsters have a very hard time measuring propensity to turn out and actually vote.
I just think that the pollsters have a very hard time measuring propensity to turn out and actually vote.
Yup. As I've been saying for months, polls don't measure enthusiasm. Thank god for Netflix and Pizza, kept a lot of Teachers at home.
There's a lesson to be learned tonight. This election was all about anti-establishment sentiment. The two anti-establishment candidates were Trump and Sanders. The DNC foolishly when with an establishment candidate because they could not envision that the population was actually mad enough to not vote for one. They were wrong.
www.youtube.com/embed/eBShN8qT4lk
The Hillary side was so Establishment, they got their knickers in a twist over "Pussy". They were square and stuck up.
Hillary bust a lid and said "What's that noise!"
Awww, MSM you just jealous it's the Trumpie Boys!!
NYT gave PA to Trump, which must have been painful. TV hasn't called it yet... Is there still an "if" in all this?
No, it is just that the middle class is fucking sick of the last 8 years of Obama's bullshit and the slow growth and the wars and Obama Care.
Plain and fucking simple.
Reuters indigenous says
The other lesson is that the pollsters are full of shit
The other lesson is that the pollsters are paid shills, as per Wikileaks.
No, it is just that the middle class is fucking sick of the last 8 years of Obama's bullshit and the slow growth and the wars and Obama Care.
Plain and fucking simple.
Trump won't be an answer. He is simply going to gut the safety nets that we have.
The other lesson is that the pollsters are paid shills, as per Wikileaks.
Really wow
Rachel Maddow is just such a disingenuous bitch. She spoke about the Republicans holding off on a Supreme court nominee as some sort of terrible thing when the Democrats did the exact same thing(and for a longer period of time). Too many liars in the MSM.
it is just that the middle class is fucking sick of the last 8 years of Obama's bullshit and the slow growth and the wars and Obama Care.
Agreed. Real people don't care about political correctness, driving diversity of thinking, etc. It's the fucking economy stupid.
Trump won't be an answer. He is simply going to gut the safety nets that we have.
I have listened to all sides of this. An increase in regulations and taxes and laws is part of it. The other main thing is Logan's demographics, have created a huge effect.
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Who has some fun sources to watch?
538:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-night-forecast-2016/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2016-election-results-coverage/
Google:
https://www.google.com/#q=election+results&eob=enn/o//////////////
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/i/live/790686278350102528
#TrumpIsPresident