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Subtle NY Times Spin


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2016 Dec 20, 8:59am   6,741 views  51 comments

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Gosh, why don't they quote what he was actually screaming while committing murder, which was "Allahu Akbar!"?

It's not like the NY Times was simply translating. They were whitewashing. They guy was a Turk. So if he was screaming "allahu akbar" in Arabic, he had an explicit point to his use of Arabic, no?

His point was that he was committing murder in the name of Islam.

But the NY Times wants to downplay that fact.

#legacymedia #spin #lossofcredibility

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41   Dan8267   2016 Dec 20, 6:26pm  

Quote now corrected.

42   anonymous   2016 Dec 20, 6:55pm  

joeyjojojunior says

The same quoted text describes it as a terrorist attack.

it removes any linkage to islam by changing the language
the direction of the narrative is to never say "islamic terrorism"
NYT gets a gold star

43   Strategist   2016 Dec 20, 7:09pm  

landtof says

joeyjojojunior says

The same quoted text describes it as a terrorist attack.

it removes any linkage to islam by changing the language

the direction of the narrative is to never say "islamic terrorism"

NYT gets a gold star

Thank God for Trump who calls it as it is.
Not calling Islamic terrorism, Islamic terrorism, is fucking stupid.

44   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2016 Dec 20, 7:53pm  

marcus says

I got to say, once again, I don't get it.

Allah Akbar versus "God is great," we're talking an Islamic radical jihadist either way.

Patrick says

Gosh, why don't they quote what he was actually screaming while committing murder, which was "Allahu Akbar!"?

Watching Patrick and others get so foolishly OCD about this makes me sad, and it also makes me worry. Is my brain also becoming so one dimensional and ossified as I get older too ?

Why is Patrick not complaining about them translating the other parts of what he was screaming, "don't forget Aleppo, don't forget Syria." As an editor, I can see the point of being consistent and translating eveything. I guess they could have shown both - the Arabic version and the translated of everything in parentheses . Besides, for any half way educated person (90% of people reading the NYT) the meaning of an Islamic terrorist shouting "Allah Akbar" versus translated version "God is great" is beyond irrelevant.

You're still grasping at straws Patrick. But hey, keep on trying.

Its very relevant. Identifying the terrorists...stating what they said as an identifier of who they are "allah Akbar" frames the situation in its proper light. That is most terrorists in 2016 western society are in fact fanatical muslim islamic assholes.

Somehow I believe you might think this is not parody:

www.youtube.com/embed/Rd8cRvZZv44

45   marcus   2016 Dec 20, 9:44pm  

landtof says

changing the language

the direction of the narrative is to never say "islamic terrorism"

What other kind is there in that region ? (not to mention the rest of the world - especially if it's religious). What other kind of religious terrorism is there ? I've never heard any other type of religious terrorism. If they said glory be to god as they killed people, that's Islamic terrorism. Even the idiots that don't know where France is, know this.

Maybe the issue is that you guys assume others are as stupid as you ?

46   anonymous   2016 Dec 20, 9:49pm  

47   marcus   2016 Dec 20, 9:50pm  

I just can't fathom the stupidity. It doesn't mean I'm triggered.

48   anonymous   2016 Dec 20, 9:53pm  

If only everyone was as smart as marcus

49   marcus   2016 Dec 20, 9:59pm  

Fucking White Male says

That is most terrorists in 2016 western society are in fact fanatical muslim islamic assholes.

My point exactly. And this wasn't even in the west, it was in Turkey, a Muslim country. And they said "glory be to god" as they killed people."

After 9/11 (and more than a decade of AlQueda BS before that) , do any of you seriously think there is one single American that would read this story and not fully understand that we're talking about an Islamic terrorist or Jihadist ? Is there even one American that thinks there is a one in one thousand chance that this was not Islamic terrorism ?

MY guess is you think "yes, marcus, we know that everybody knows. But don't you see ?! THEY NEED TO SAY IT !!" "Because don't you understand - yes everyone knows, but if they don't say it - it means they are implying that what everyone knows with total and extreme certainty to be true is not true."

50   anonymous   2016 Dec 20, 10:29pm  

You sure you're not #triggered?

You sure are getting pretty worked up over it

51   anonymous   2016 Dec 20, 10:31pm  

marcus says

What other kind of religious terrorism is there ? I've never heard any other type of religious terrorism.

does anyone else want to deal with this mind fart right here?

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