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Rashomon says

Strategist says

I'm sure it was all propaganda.

Congrats on wanting to become more informed on a topic you seem to spend an inordinate amount of time posting about, despite the fact you actually seem to know next to nothing about the history behind what is going on.

I know enough about Islam. All you have to do is look at ISIS. Slavery, pedophilia, rape, murder, wars, violence, chopping off heads. That's what Mohammad was all about, and that's what Islam is all about. Oh, and it's all Americas fault.

lostand confused says

Act like an adult-you will get treated like an adult-until then kiddie table for you. That seems to astound the lefties.

Utterly laughable coming from you.

Rashomon says

Utterly laughable coming from you.

Just because you keep repeating the same thing does not make it true. Try it in life sometimes-act sane, reasonable and not like trigglypuff and see what type of reaction you get. Now of course if you hang out in leftie circles and cannot handle differing opinions-it may not matter-but develop some intellectual curiosity and try it .

Strategist says

I know enough about Islam. All you have to do is look at ISIS. Slavery, pedophilia, rape, murder, wars, violence, chopping off heads. That's what Mohammad was all about, and that's what Islam is all about. Oh, and it's all Americas fault.

You operate in clichés. Tossing out the same tired old comments without even considering why things are happening the way they are. When did suicide bombings first occur? Ask yourself when the first suicide attack was against US military. When was the first one against civilians? How did those come about? Those are relevant questions that you should be interested in learning about.

lostand confused says

Just because you keep repeating the same thing does not make it true. Try it in life sometimes-act sane, reasonable and not like trigglypuff and see what type of reaction you get. Now of course if you hang out in leftie circles and cannot handle differing opinions-it may not matter-but develop some intellectual curiosity and try it .

It makes it true when every single person on here (apart from you apparently) can simply scroll through the thread and see the (none) contribution you've made to it.
And you're just embarrassing yourself with your last point. Come on, feel free to explain what intellectual curiosity you've demonstrated in this thread. I'll be waiting.

Rashomon says

Strategist says

I know enough about Islam. All you have to do is look at ISIS. Slavery, pedophilia, rape, murder, wars, violence, chopping off heads. That's what Mohammad was all about, and that's what Islam is all about. Oh, and it's all Americas fault.

You operate in clichés. Tossing out the same tired old comments without even considering why things are happening the way they are. Ask yourself when the first suicide attack was against US military. When was the first one against civilians? How did those come about? Those are relevant questions that you should be interested in learning about.

OMG, you are trying to justify suicide bombings.
Here is some advise. You don't blow up innocent women and children with suicide bombers for ANY reason.

Rashomon says

You operate in clichés. Tossing out the same tired old comments without even considering why things are happening the way they are.

They're happening because Allah says it should happen. Sick little devil, isn't he?

Strategist says

OMG, you are trying to justify suicide bombings.

Here is some advise. You don't blow up innocent women and children with suicide bombers for ANY reason.

Is reading comprehension that problematic for you? I'm talking about informing yourself about the thing you seem to love blathering on about so much. That isn't justifying anything FFS.

Rashomon says

It makes it true when every single person on here (apart from you apparently) can simply scroll through the thread and see the (none) contribution you've made to it

LOL-I actually have posts not related to you . But hey logic, facts and lefties-stop embarrassing yourself. I mean I understand if it is some thread a few days ago, but these posts were in a span of an hour or two and you can clearly see my posts and yet persist in posting such drivel. What can i do but laugh. Now I am curious does your beleif system not allow you to see posts that don't fit in and then you come out and lie and have the gall to claim that as proof??? Fascinating psych study of the fixed mind.

Rashomon says

Strategist says

OMG, you are trying to justify suicide bombings.


Here is some advise. You don't blow up innocent women and children with suicide bombers for ANY reason.

Is reading comprehension that problematic for you? I'm talking about informing yourself about the thing you seem to love blathering on about so much. That isn't justifying anything FFS.

You seem well read. So tell me why Muslims believe it's right for a 56 year old man to have sex with a 9 year old.

Strategist says

They're happening because Allah says it should happen. Sick little devil, isn't he?

Again, try and inform yourself about the actual history behind it or do you think Arabs were carrying out suicide bombings against the British etc. back in the day? These kinds of attacks were a complete anathema to Sunni Muslims until fairly recently. Do you not think it relevant to know how and why that changed?

Rashomon says

Strategist says

They're happening because Allah says it should happen. Sick little devil, isn't he?

Again, try and inform yourself about the actual history behind it or do you think Arabs were carrying out suicide missions against the British? These kinds of attacks were a complete anathema to Sunni Muslims until fairly recently. Do you not think it relevant to know how and why that changed?

They didn't have bomb vests a hundred years ago. Now they do. LOL.

Strategist says

You seem well read. So tell me why Muslims believe it's right for a 56 year old man to have sex with a 9 year old.

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Strategist says

They didn't have bomb vests a hundred years ago. Now they do. LOL.

I'm pretty sure they had dynamite, hand grenades...

Rashomon says

Strategist says

You seem well read. So tell me why Muslims believe it's right for a 56 year old man to have sex with a 9 year old.

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That's your answer? And you want me to read the same stuff you read?
Here is a fact. All suicide bombers read the terrorist manual called Koran, written by an illiterate pedophile.

lostand confused says

I mean I understand if it is some thread a few days ago, but these posts were in a span of an hour or two and you can clearly see my posts and yet persist in posting such drivel. What can i do but laugh.

WTF are you talking about? You haven't made a single meaningful point in this entire thread. All you are doing is indulging in the sort of childish dickishness that CIC seems to revel in. Like I said, grow up.

Rashomon says

WTF are you talking about? You haven't made a single meaningful point in this entire thread. All you are doing is indulging in the sort of childish dickishness that CIC seems to revel in. Like I said, grow up.

Now you are acting deranged. Read the thread. It took me 2 min to scroll up and find a post not related to my response to your drivel. Stop lying-although to lefties you probably think you are incapable of that. Like i said if you respond to my point, I will coem back with a counter-but if you act like a child and now spew lies-then you get no respect.

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They will cut taxes & continue to support BLASPHEMY at the cost of american citizen children who are homeless,hungry,orphaned & living on the streets.
This evil deserves NO RESPECT.

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Strategist says

That's your answer? And you want me to read the same stuff you read?

You do know that such unions were not particularly unusual in the not so distant past. You're talking about the 6th/7th century. You could make the same point about a multitude of historical figures. And what makes you say Muslims think it's right? It's an extremely unusual practice to marry someone so young (and that doesn't then mean that those marriages are consumated). Based on that, I can presumably argue that they don't think it's right.

Rashomon says

Strategist says

That's your answer? And you want me to read the same stuff you read?

You do know that such unions were not particularly unusual in the not so distant past. You're talking about the 6th/7th century. You could make the same point about a multitude of historical figures. And what makes you say Muslims think it's right? It's an extremely unusual practice to marry someone so young (and that doesn't then mean that those marriages are consumated). Based on that, I can presumably argue that they don't think it's right.

LOL. Mohammad at age 56 had sex with a 9 year old. Are you saying he was immoral?

lostand confused says

Now you are acting deranged. Read the thread. It took me 2 min to scroll up and find a post not related to my response to your drivel. Stop lying-although to lefties you probably think you are incapable of that.

Pretty much all your posts have been addressed at me and they have all without fail been childish nonsense. The, what, one other post you made wasn't exactly what you'd call a constructive point, was it?

Rashomon says

Pretty much all your posts have been addressed at me and they have all without fail been childish nonsense. The, what, one other post you made wasn't exactly what you'd call a constructive point, was it?

So now you agree you lied. Good first step. The second point is why I laugh at you-you have a view and if someone has another view-it is rightwing childish bullshit. Then you expect them to have a decent discussion with you-but on what??!!!!!

if you are willing to discuss the point, then the discussion will stay on point.

There are more than one posts . But the question is the same. Muslim killings and terror exist in India, pakistan, Bangladesh , Thailand, China, kenya, multiple Muslim nations, turkey, germany, France, britain, Spain and the list goes on and in many places long before any bombing campaign. So how is that related to the US bombings-which have been led by Obama the last 8 years?

lostand confused says

Muslim killings and terror exist in India, pakistan, Bangladesh , Thailand, China, kenya, multiple Muslim nations, turkey and the list goes on

Whose fault is that Rashomon? What does all your reading tell you?

Strategist says

LOL. Mohammad at age 56 had sex with a 9 year old. Are you saying he was immoral?

I thought that was what you were saying...
But hey, feel free to explain what this little tangent of yours has got to do with what was being discussed.

Strategist says

OMG, you are trying to justify suicide bombings.

Here is some advise. You don't blow up innocent women and children with suicide bombers for ANY reason.

What's amazing to me is how badly Muslims play the PR game.

If a soldier in a battle is so dedicated that he sacrifices himself in the attack against enemy soldiers, most would agree that's actually noble in a way, independent of his side's reasons.

If a soldier in a battle simply starts deliberately killing random civilians out of hate and frustration with his side's failure, everyone except Muslims agrees that's a disgusting crime and de-legitimizes that soldier's side.

Rashomon says

Strategist says

LOL. Mohammad at age 56 had sex with a 9 year old. Are you saying he was immoral?

I thought that was what you were saying...

But hey, feel free to explain what this little tangent of yours has got to do with what was being discussed.

I'm showing ALL the violence caused by Islam is due to Islam being a rotten religion. It has primitive values and beliefs, which keeps Muslims in a barbaric era.
Nothing good comes from Islam.

lostand confused says

So now you agree you lied. Good first step.

Oh, just fuck off you tiresome little child. Your one none constructive response that wasnt directly aimed at me came after I had already made the point about what you were doing. But hey, feel free to try again. You seem adept at embarrassing yourself, so I'm sure we're all eagerly awaiting your next bit of stupidity.

Strategist says

Whose fault is that Rashomon?

The vast majority of terrror attacks across the globe are carried out by Muslims -many screaming-Allah Akbur. Why would you scream your God's name when you are murdering innocent men, women and children ??

If this was in one country or region or as the elft insists US bombings -that si one thing. But hwy are they killing innocent people going to the market in Thailand, India, Germany ,the subways in Britain? Heck even Muslim countries have mass suicide bombings and killings of children in the anme of Allah. many of the preachers actually consider this holy war and justify this. This war on the infidel has been going on for centuries-some countries even before the US existed.

I strongly believe people are people and the global nature of Islamic terror, makes me wonder if the religion itself causes this in some way. it was founded by a warmonger and their holy book was written by the bloodthirsty warmonger.

Strategist says

I'm showing ALL the violence caused by Islam is due to Islam being a rotten religion. It has primitive values and beliefs, which keeps Muslims in a barbaric era.

Nothing good comes from Islam.

From your perspective, but obviously not from those who believe. Pretty much the way it works with all religions unsurprisingly enough.

Rashomon says

h, just fuck off you tiresome little child. Your one none constructive response that wasnt directly aimed at me came after I had already made the point about what you were doing. But hey, feel free to try again. You seem adapt at embarrassing yourself, so I'm sure we're all eagerly awaiting your next bit of stupidity.

Again you lied , got caught in it and now are throwing tantrums. It does not agree with you-so it is rightwing bullshit or now is not constructive. Spew more lies-lefties-LOL!! You do realize it is you who is embarrassing yourself -spew some more lie now and act like a child.

lostand confused says

Again you lied , got caught in it and now are throwing tantrums.

Lied how exactly? Care to elaborate on what you've been doing in this thread?

Rashomon says

Strategist says

I'm showing ALL the violence caused by Islam is due to Islam being a rotten religion. It has primitive values and beliefs, which keeps Muslims in a barbaric era.

Nothing good comes from Islam.

From your perspective, but obviously not from those who believe. Pretty much the way it works with all religions unsurprisingly enough.

I agree with you. That's why Muslims need an education other than the education that comes out of the Koran. Over time Muslims will see for themselves how rotten their sharia laws are, and hopefully dump Islam, or practice it peacefully.

lostand confused says

It does not agree with you-so it is rightwing bullshit or now is not constructive. Spew more lies-lefties-LOL!! You do realize it is you who is embarrassing yourself -spew some more lie now and act like a child.

All you've done is spout the usual right wing drivel against people (me) who don't hold your simplistic views about what is going on. That isn't making constructive comments. And spouting oh-so-predictable anti-Muslim rhetoric isn't making constructive comments either, but hey, you fail to seem to understand that as well. Paint me unsurprised.

Strategist says

Over time Muslims will see for themselves how rotten their sharia laws are, and hopefully dump Islam, or practice it peacefully.

The vast majority do practice it peacefully.

Anyway, I've had my fill. There's only so much of Patrick.net I can stomach these days.

Rashomon says

Strategist says

Over time Muslims will see for themselves how rotten their sharia laws are, and hopefully dump Islam, or practice it peacefully.

The vast majority do practice it peacefully.

Again I Agree, but enough don't practice it peacefully, causing unwanted hell for the people of the world. Islam remains the breeding ground for terrorism.

Rashomon says

Anyway, I've had my fill. There's only so much of Patrick.net I can stomach these days.

he he he. Fun arguing with you. See ya.

Rashomon says

All you've done is spout the usual right wing drivel against people (me) who don't hold your simplistic views about what is going on. That isn't making constructive comments. And spouting oh-so-predictable anti-Muslim rhetoric isn't making constructive comments either, but hey, you fail to seem to understand that as well. Paint me unsurprised.

Nope. That is just sane people tired of the left and their refusal to answer questions and branding anything they don't agree with as some strange phobia. For a while people responded, but now people just treat your kind as petulant children.
. You are right, it is not a simple . However you steadfastly refuse to answer-Muslim suicide bombings and killings in the name of Allah-in India, Thailand, Kenya, USA, Germany, Spain, britain and many Muslim countries themselves. What have they got to do with US bombings led by Obama over the last 8 years. Muslim terror and killings have been going on for millennia.

If you look at history, Muslims invaded Europe, ruled Spain for centuries and were driven back. India has been ravaged by them for eons-long before the US bombing campaign-heck long before the uS existed. Utter barbarity ensued where Hindu places of worship were destroyed and Mosques built over them and huge number of Hindus massacred and forcibly converted. . They have stuck east, west and every place in between. Now they strike many places in the world with terror bombing-the elft says thsi si due to US bombings and the rest are supposed to treat you as adults??

Why are they killing so many innocent people across the globe-they don't hide it, proudly proclaim Allah-so what can be done to stop it. This is a global problem and Muslim countries themselves are victims of it.

lostand confused says

If you look at history, Muslims invaded Europe, ruled Spain for centuries and were driven back.

Sigh. So what? Those weren't Muslims like it was one great entity. Spain was occupied by the Moors. Other groups fought in different areas. You could say exactly the same thing about Christianity if you want to take that approach. The history of mankind has been expansion through violence. Religion has been nothing but a tool in that. If there had been no religion, then wars would have still gone on.
lostand confused says

However you steadfastly refuse to answer-Muslim suicide bombings and killings in the name of Allah-in India, Thailand, Kenya, USA, Germany, Spain, britain and many Muslim countries themselves. What have they got to do with US bombings led by Obama over the last 8 years. Muslim terror and killings have been going on for millennia.

What are you talking about? What do you expect me to say about that? I already stated it's utterly abhorrent. That has nothing to do with why suicide bombings have arisen only recently though, let alone what can be done to counter what is driving it. You apparently aren't remotely interested in understanding the former so how the hell do you think you're going to begin to address the latter?
Anyway, as I said I've had my fill, so I'll leave you to it.

Just FYI, you guys are arguing with Rashomon who has stated he is a follower of BBC.

BBC has a miserable anti Israeli history and Rashomon has stated on multiple occasions that he essentially buys into the BBC false propaganda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_BBC#Israeli.E2.80.93Palestinian_conflict