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You're fucking delusional, IRON-HEAD.

SEEK PSYCHIATRIC INTERVENTION STAT!

"I have had five bankruptcies, and have bankrupted countless vendors who relied on me. I am confident that with the help of GoldieSacks, I can bankrupt the USA as well!"

Hillary has NEVER met with Goldman Sachs. We KNOW Hillary opposes GOLDMAN, CITIGROUP, etc. every step of the way.

Who the hell cares what Hillary did anymore?? Trump is the one who's going to be President and HE'S the one who is handing the government over to Goldman Sachs. Does this not bother you at all? Do you have any dignity left?

More BULLSHIT!
Everyone knows g.w.bush & Republicans handed the govt. to G.Sachs
& the TBTF. The TBTF got zero% interest & the dumb ass Republicans
have ended up with a Red ball cap & tee shirt.
MAGA!

joeyjojojunior says

Who the hell cares what Hillary did anymore?? Trump is the one who's going to be President and HE'S the one who is handing the government over to Goldman Sachs. Does this not bother you at all? Do you have any dignity left?

joeyjojojunior says

Who the hell cares what Hillary did anymore?? Trump is the one who's going to be President and HE'S the one who is handing the government over to Goldman Sachs. Does this not bother you at all? Do you have any dignity left?

Correct.

Does anyone care to even try and dispute this logically sound (based on events in real time) statement of fact?

I can. Goldman Sachs owned Hillary. Trump hired GS executives who owned Hillary. Now that means that Trump owns Hillary because he owns the guys who own her! It's power consolidation. If you knew anything about ruling coalitions, you'd know that they are rarely about principles and high minded morals. It's about power, taking power, using power, gaining more power, and keeping power. I see Trump gaining power, which frankly he will need to accomplish much of anything in DC. He won't be a lame duck POTUS like Obummer was for seven long years.

Have you decided yet? Male or female?

joeyjojojunior says

  joeyjojojunior  

Perhaps all type of lobbying can create fraud, corruption, rent seeking, and beauracrasy which benefits the lobbeyists lobbee.

Is not lobbying by anyone just money laundering?

WOW. The elections were fun. Jan 20 will be even more fun on Patnet.

Hillary being owned by GS yields a different result than Trump using people from GS to accomplish his mission. In the first case, policy is directed from the bank to the government. In the second case, policy is directed from the government to the bank. It's all about who owns who! Now that Trump owns GS, he owns Hillary's entire coalition by proxy! So they can make lots of noises and object, but in the end, they will be jerking congress critter chains to get them passing laws that Trump's people wrote.

Hey, were there any big bank executives in Obama's Cabinet? Why, I think one was even Chief of Staff.

In fact, it appeared he brokered the current state of budgetary affairs between President and Congress. Nice!

What's even funnier is this guy was in charge of (You find out for yourself) Big Bank's operations in Bermuda, Hong Kong, and the Cayman Islands. There are over 113 subsidiaries on the Caymans now. Funny how such a small island needs 113 subsidiaries of the same bank. Sure it has nothing to do with Corporate Inversion and Tax Avoidance by Multinationals.

Finally, when asked by Bernie Sanders if "Deregulation" has caused the financial crisis, he blamed it on pre-existing factors. Just what you'd expect a Bankster to say!

Did the people criticizing Mnuchin now for being a Bankster, criticize Obama's choices when he nominated Banksters?

I'm confused, who was president during the 08 crash? During the 00 .com crash? During the 89 SnL scandal...

Inflation of 79
Inflation of WWII
Great Depression
Inflation of WWI

Trump wasn't even alive during some of these, but the Federal Reserve was. So continue to take the asinine small picture approach, pretending elected officials ALWAYS keep their campaign promises, and bankers haven't owned the government since Woodrow was forced/duped during Christmas break in 1913 into unleashing the monster. Or get with reality that you've all been sold down the river long ago, and stop actively engaging in your own enslavement.

Do you guys literally need the last five presidents to come to your house and fuck you in the ass while their investment banker bosses laugh manically before you'll understand what's going on!?

T L Lips says

Did the people criticizing Mnuchin now for being a Bankster, criticize Obama's choices when he nominated Banksters?

I think the better question is--are the people who criticized Obama for being too cozy with banksters, doing the same now after seeing Trump's picks? And if not, why? (I'm looking at you TLL)

joeyjojojunior says

I think the better question is--are the people who criticized Obama for being too cozy with banksters, doing the same now after seeing Trump's picks? And if not, why? (I'm looking at you TLL)

Obama is still the President. If you were comfortable with Obama's Big Banksters from Citigroup in the Cabinet and Revolving Door Regulators at the SEC who fired 5-star rated investigators when they looked into their pal's probable insider trading, why are you suddenly uncomfortable with Trump have a few ex-Goldman People?

Fuck, it just came out that Podesta was consulting with Froman, another Citigroup executive, about Obama's 2008 cabinet. That's why the Legacy Obsolete Media is all hyped on the "Russian Hack" and not the contents of Wikileaks' emails.

T L Lips says

Obama is still the President. If you were comfortable with Obama's Big Banksters from Citigroup in the Cabinet and Revolving Door Regulators at the SEC who fired 5-star rated investigators when they looked into their pal's probable insider trading, why are you suddenly uncomfortable with Trump have a few ex-Goldman People?

Fuck, it just came out that Podesta was consulting with Froman, another Citigroup executive, about Obama's 2008 cabinet. That's why the Legacy Obsolete Media is all hyped on the "Russian Hack" and not the contents of Wikileaks' emails.

For fucks sake. Are you incapable of criticizing anything about your hero? I have to say, blind admiration is a most unattractive feature.

Let me give you a primer for how it's done. I think Obama was too weak on Wall St. and bankers. Regardless of whether he thought he could actually get a conviction, it would have been a useful symbolic gesture, at least, to prosecute some of the worst offenders. See--I am an Obama supporter, but I can still criticize some of his decisions.

joeyjojojunior says

For fucks sake. Are you incapable of criticizing anything about your hero? I have to say, blind admiration is a most unattractive feature.

Let me give you a primer for how it's done. I think Obama was too weak on Wall St. and bankers. Regardless of whether he thought he could actually get a conviction, it would have been a useful symbolic gesture, at least, to prosecute some of the worst offenders. See--I am an Obama supporter, but I can still criticize some of his decisions.

Yay!!! Congrats!!

Let me tell you a secret: I thought Obama may have been an okay choice in 2008. I always thought McCain was Full of Shit.

BUT, at exactly this time in 2008, I was already extremely skeptical as he announced his choices. The people who seemed really tough on banks got shifted into White Paper Committees and Powerless Talking Shops, his campaign people the Legacy Media told me would be getting big positions, while he stacked his admin with revolving door banksters, neoliberal academics, liberal warhawks, etc.

As for Trump, anything he does can be mediocre from this point on, because he already Killed TPP and nixed the Syrian and Russia war drums, my two big issues. And, I know he'll reverse what BS Obama just pulled with Israel.

As Quigley said above, we already had Clinton in power, and she was extremely influential - not just in the Senate where she voted for war or as SOS where she led to the disaster in Libya - but earlier in the Clinton White House - she wasn't just the first lady pushing exercise and brushing teeth. She was so influential, the reason she went to Bosnia on a handshake tour was to get her out of the WH to kill rumors she was a big factor.

Even back then, her solution to every international problem was "Bomb 'em"

lol--still incapable of criticizing him, huh? You are EVERYTHING that you make fun of in others. It is impossible to take anything you say seriously because you cannot admit even the most obvious of faults in Trump. You are the very definition of biased--a sycophant, blinded by the scams of a TV conman.

I know at some point in the next year or two, some Legacy Media Hoaxer is going to pull the "Even McCain opposes Trump on this issue."

Dude, that's not a bug, it's a feature. If McCain is against the President on something, esp. if foreign policy or military procurement is, I know it'll be a disaster if we take his advice.

"Bullshit. First of all, I'm backing one guy because compared to Clinton, he's ace, even if he babbles incoherently and gets nothing done. She's actively harmful in comparison. And she doesn't listen to advice, which is the meta-conclusion from the DNC and Podesta Emails since ALL of her advisors bitch about it all the time."

Nope, not bullshit at all. I've still yet to see one word of criticism from you despite Trump doing exactly the same things that you hammered Clinton for relentlessly. Cozy with Wall St., check. Appointing a cabinet member that is in favor of civil forfeiture, check. Abandoning campaign promises left and right, check.

But nary a critical word from fanboy TLL.

Just curious TLL--if/when Trump "renegotiates" TPP and signs it, will you be OK with that too?

joeyjojojunior says

to prosecute some of the worst offenders

Who would have been a good target other than the small potatoes pursued by the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York?