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marcus says

Or maybe I'm wrong and it's all about overwhelming your audience with data.

You want me to answer something that I don't believe exist.

The better thesis is to say

lower educated and lower skill Americans have a hard time making the cost of living wages.

Dual income wages have to be accounted for too

Logan Mohtashami says

You want me to answer something that I don't believe exist.

No, if you believe t doesn't exist, I want you to find evidence of that. The question becomes do you have evidence that it doesn't exist ?

marcus says

The question becomes do you have evidence that it doesn't exist ?

If what you said is true, this data line would never exist

Please, if you're going to use a graph as a substitute for an argument, at least explain a little. But I have to go here soon anyway. Why or how does that graph show that the massive increase in corporate profits, or more specifically the per capita share of GDP increase is being shared with workers in a similar proportion as it was decades ago.

OR that the difference in that proportion isn't going to the owners (including stock market valuations).

marcus says

at least explain a little

Core wages move with inflation

marcus says

per capita share of GDP increase is being shared with workers

I think you're talking about this, which with our expanding economy there is no way this would have kept up pace with median earnings

Because the economy exploded from 1978 GDP wise, job wise, wages wise, and financial asset wise

Tim Aurora says

Logan has to advertise himself this is a proper

Plus I didn't write that, the Conference people did :-)

Logan Mohtashami says

Because the economy exploded from 1978 GDP wise, job wise, wages wise, and financial asset wise

So you're going to kind of agree now, and say, oh thaaaat gap. OF course that gap is supposed to be growing. That's what stock market growth is all about. If the workers got more, then how would the stock market go up ?

Is that it more or less ?

The problem is, that becasue of health care, education costs, and housing costs in major market cities, real incomes are effectively going down a little, as incomes at the top keep rising.

marcus says

OF course that gap is supposed to be growing

It has been growing in real wages, median is different but hey if you want to use that and mean here you go

"It has been growing in real wages, median is different but hey if you want to use that and mean here you go"

If you don't understand why using mean income is misleading, then you have no business commenting on the US economy.

joeyjojojunior says

mean income is misleading

Hence why I have median there ... don't believe verbally I have ever said mean wages in my life outside of this sentence and above :-)

#EpicTriggering #LoganChartMeltdown #LogansHeadExplodedAndChartsAreLiterallySprayingEverywhere

NuttBoxer says

NuttBoxer

I could do it in coloring books and send them in mail for you guys .. maybe that would work better :-)

How about you just answer the question I posted, and re-iterated that you have ignored. What is our financial benefit from being bears? You said we have one, put some fact behind your opinion.

And more importantly, what is your financial benefit from saying everything is fine Realtor? What is your central governments financial benefit from printing your charts saying everything is fine?

Seems to me ONE side has a huge incentive to lie, the other gains almost nothing by doing so.

NuttBoxer says

everything is fine Realtor?

A realtor has a financial incentive to be bullish always

A data miner doesn't... just reads the numbers

NuttBoxer says

What is our financial benefit from being bears?

You're not short the market and I actually don't believe you guys believe the stuff you say

NuttBoxer says

the other gains almost nothing by doing so.

When LEI falls 4-6 months, fed fights inflation and Claims rise, then you have my blessing to get bearish, ( Short term)

You are trying to side track saying you are some kind of analyst professionally, yet your top/current job on LinkedIn is:
Senior Loan Manager
AMC Lending Group
January 1996 – Present (21 years 1 month)Irvine CA

With over 29 years experience in the home lending business. AMC Lending group has provided home loans for California residents since 1987. Also, provide real time housing information through my personal blog at www.LoganMohtashami.com
BRE # 01426922
NMLS # 328173

So you have a clear incentive to push good vibes. I mean who the fuck takes on the biggest, longest debt of their lives if the economy is about the collapse? So you have incentive to lie, lots of it. The government has their hands all over housing, their whole economy is a confidence game, lots of incentive to lie.

I won't answer the other part of the question as I'd like you to rephrase our reason. Your english made the response confusing, so I don't want to assume.

NuttBoxer says

You are trying to side track saying you are some kind of analyst professionally, yet your top/current job on LinkedIn is:

Have you ever been asked to speak at a national economic conference or do you hide behind that fake name always

I track data daily... you will never get the edge on me, ever ....not in your life time

and you cry a lot.. what is so miserable in your life that forces you to hate so much ????

Wait ... don't answer that... nothing wrong in your life, you're perfectly fine

NuttBoxer says

So you have a clear incentive to push good vibes.

By the way.. my core thesis always has been in this cycle, that

" This housing cycle once you exclude the cash buyers, simply doesn't have enough mortgage buyers to have a real recovery"

I have been a 2% GDP guy always

10 year channel has stuck always

I am only good because the super bears were terrible and the Housing Bulls were way out of line ...

Forget

WTW
UNXL
ATEN
TWTR
HP
GPRO

MASI vs ARLP

The only thing this indicates is the collapse of the trojan industry in america...

Logan Mohtashami says

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

The way conferences work is that they get the speakers to pay for slots to promote their scams.

Note True

I never pay for anything it's actually all verified too. Now the Wall Street firms have to pay to attend and fly to the event

At the end of the month economist John Huskin and I are speaking at the CAR conference on the economy, housing and Donald Trump

and they give me a free hotel room too

Come on .... after all these years you guys are still rolling the 3 same sentence structures... tsk tsk

Well, it's verified that you do pay.
http://americatalyst.com/content/invitation-request

There is an expensive fee paid by both invited guests and applicants who wish to attend.

8. Some of you may find the registration fees quite expensive, and others will receive discounted rates based on your type of firm (such as government, for example). If you find the fees expensive, please know that in 12 years, we have never had anyone feel that the money was not worth it. Furthermore, this event is based on its purpose and not its profit.

So you as an paid applicant were picked out of the audience to sit on the hot seat and have your picture taken.

We have a "hot seat" up onstage and frequently call people out of the audience to join the session. Be prepared.

Logan Mohtashami says

Note True

I never pay for anything it's actually all verified too.

Macropodia says

We have a "hot seat" up onstage and frequently call people out of the audience to join the session. Be prepared.

Exactly I paid nothing ... and I am paying nothing to speak at the CAR event ..and I am paying nothing to speak again at Ameri catayst again

and then there are you guys here

Macropodia

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE

Ironman

Jesus ... boy band trolls with rag tag names... none of you will ever have the guts to put your real name and faces on all your post ... ever ...
that's what trolls are

this is what makes you all priceless ... you time stamp your Anti American non sense you're too chicken to put your names and faces on your post

Old Old men... hiding ...

Put all your names and real faces and lets see how brave you boy bands are then

You got nothing son, troll all you but you will always hide behind fake names and fake photos because that's the true nature of what you speak ..

Logan Mohtashami says

Put all your names and real faces and lets see how brave you boy bands are then

Read" The ART of War"
First rule : MAKE YOURSELF THE BIGGEST TARGET POSSIBLE?

It's not about BRAVERY. It's about WINNING.

HEY YOU says

It's not about BRAVERY. It's about WINNING.

Yes, in the Art of war.. you let your enemies do your fighting for you...

See you guys are doing me a favor because my thing is about Trolls not being able to read data properly

I still can't believe you guys are taking the bait here

Math, Facts and Data matter... the rest is storytelling

This is just the start... 15-20 years left of taking out extreme right wing and left wing trolls ... but I can't do this unless you guys and gals speak ...

Here I was worried that you would come to your senses and just ignore me...

HA.... boy what an unfounded fear ...

Bring it... all day and all night ....

This is America... we don't beg in this country ...

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

There is an expensive fee paid by both invited guests and applicants who wish to attend.

exactly I didn't pay the registration fee like the attending people did that didn't speak

Just look at the list of people that went to conference... do you really think those economist, data analyst, government officials really paid the full registration fee to just speak in Texas

What?

Come on now... you're smarter than that

OK Logan--

Here's some math and facts for you:

(inequality in US over last 100 years or so) What does this chart say to you?

joeyjojojunior says

(inequality in US over last 100 years or so) What does this chart say to you?

Not much. You need to provide more info about your graph.

joeyjojojunior says

(inequality in US over last 100 years or so) What does this chart say to you?

165 million working people
real wages are at all time highs
105 Trillion dollars of financial asset
Reserve currency of the world
Highest Job openings ever printed in the history of the world
Inflation is low

And you guys... think we are on the verge of some collapse

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE

clap clap clap

Well, I guess I can be someone that puts a picture of a gun to Palin's head.

I mean why would I listen to professional economist, data analyst, President of big financial corporations

Us trolls we know everything, forget the professionals listen to us

Come one... really... this act works only among yourselves

My job is to disprove the Anti American left and right who have been predicting death and doom since 1790

The battles will always continue

Before someone puts up a zero hedge article that all jobs were part time