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Equal post-conception rights for men


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2017 Jan 19, 7:41am   70,803 views  335 comments

by Patrick   ➕follow (61)   💰tip   ignore  

Unmarried men should have equal post-conception rights including ability to refuse financial obligation for a child where the woman unilaterally decides to continue the pregnancy.

Let's call it the affirmative consent law, requiring men to give affirmative consent to paternity.

This would achieve equality with a woman's "her body her choice" right to ignore the man's request for an abortion or to give the child up for adoption. Rights which only women have.

If she has the right to refuse responsibility for the baby, he should also have the right to refuse responsibility for the baby. In recognition of the biological reality that it is the woman who physically has to have the abortion, if she wants to abort, the man should have to pay the entire financial cost of the abortion.

Married men should be assumed by the fact of marriage to have given their consent to financial support for legitimate biological paternity.

It is not fair that a woman should have the right to entrap a man with one night sex, obligating him to 20 years or more of financial liability, when she has the right to simply opt out of the same situation via abortion or giving up the baby for adoption. Without a man's affirmative consent to paternity, it's rape.

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332   Dan8267   2017 Apr 11, 10:58am  

rando says

Do you think women should have higher rights than men?

Only with regards to abortion because the physical constraints of reality prevents complete equality in that matter. However, that is the only exception. In all other things, including the right to not opt in to legal parenthood, there should be absolute equality under law for both genders. To say otherwise is, by definition, sexist.

333   Dan8267   2017 Apr 11, 11:03am  

errc says

If only more people did this.

More people should do this.

Furthermore, I challenge ch_tah2 or anyone else to provide even a single example of me saying something batshit crazy on PatNet. I've made 25,828 comments and 1,906 posts, so finding crazy should be damn easy if it exists. Yet I doubt anyone could produce a single example. I can easily defend everything that I've stated except for the few things I retracted when presented with valid counter-evidence. Hey, nobody's perfect, and changing one's mind in light of new evidence is always perfectly valid.

334   goldfish   2017 Apr 11, 10:57pm  

rando says

Do you think women should have higher rights than men?

@Patrick
should be same bcoz im just know about human rights..no one being higher than another. but bcoz of selfish many people feel they are is number one.
why you should make a comparison between men's right and women's right?
why not ask ourselves about our obligations before demanding about rights?
when a men hv sex before marriage..and his women got pregnant..do you think both of them hv rights to kill their child?
so i think dont you said about trap..bcoz no one force them to hv one night sex.

335   Patrick   2017 Apr 12, 8:50am  

goldfish says

why you should make a comparison between men's right and women's right?

Because men and women should have the same legal rights, but they do not. Women have more rights.

Obligations also come with rights. To have only obligations but no rights is to be a slave.

goldfish says

do you think both of them hv rights to kill their child?

Any right that the woman has, the man should also have.

We could debate the morality of abortion in general, but that is a separate issue. My own opinion is that an embryo is not a child. I do not see a problem with abortion before any brain has developed.

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