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Rashomon says

Words matter. Words lead to deeds. Responsibility for what one says should matter. Free speech doesn't apply everywhere whether you think it should or not - do you really want ISIS to be free to recruit on campus for example? I think there are limits, but then I'm not American, so maybe we just simply hold different perspectives.

This is what the kids are saying at Berkeley:

Since Milo's speech will lead to violence, we're justified in a pre-emptive strike to stop those violent words, so attacking his supporters is really self-defense.

T L Lipsovich says

I will let @MMR discuss their benign, loving rule of India and Hindus and Sikhs under the Mughal Empire.

Muslims lost their grip on India after ruling for 700 years. This and victorian england is the reason why a lot of Indian people are sexually repressed.

Muslims in India are disenfranchised, but it's due to their emphasis on mosques and madrassas and not education. Ghettoization is a big problem. They keep crying about affirmative action, although even upper caste people from poor families get fucked on daily basis.

Muslims in India are still better off than Muslims in Pakistan. Lot of whining, yet Parsis, Sikhs and Christians have done relatively well compared to Muslims.

Muslims and Hindus have lived relatively peacefully for centuries, but the violence in last few decades is due to 'arabization' of pakistanis and bangladeshis

Muslims are marginalized in India due to lack of assimilation (surprise surprise just like Europe).....they cry about Hindu right but the hindu right has been in power only 8 out of the close to 70 years of independence. Arguably, the arabization of muslims has given rise to the hindu right.

Muslims from India that grew up outside of the ghettos with non Muslim neighbors and friends tend to be the highest achieving in terms of literacy and economic output. The larger point I am trying to make is while Muslims maybe in a minority they always surround themselves with other Muslims to feel that they are in control and the result is zero understanding of the world outside of their surrounding. The population prefers self imposed isolation and exile and starts blaming the system for their ills . More Muslims in these ghettos oppress Muslims than non Muslims oppressing Muslims. The world also tends to view them as a collection instead of individuals thus the infamous terror tag .

Muslims in North India have become nothing but a vote bank, they vote en masse driven by religious motivations which was nicely exploited by Congress for years and now by a myriad of different local parties. The so called muslim elites are the 'thakedars' of this 'mass' and it is in their interest to keep the muslims poor and un-educated....these elites and the vote bank politics has done more damage to muslims than any right wing politics. Most people may not know but it was Congress under Rajiv Gandhi which first raised the Babri masjid issues.....

Just like a certain group with blacks in the US

Hindu nationalism arises due to unending appeasement of Muslims through vote bank politics. Also Muslim women movement like that of Bhartiya Muslim mahila sanghathan should be highlighted which maybe is the only women led Muslim movement in the world. Low and middle class Muslims are marginalised everywhere in the world including their home countries.

prominent Muslims from India - APJ Abdul Kalam, AR Rahman, Hamid Ansari, Mohd Azharuddin, Bollywood Khans, Haaji Mastan, Karim Lala, Dawood Ibrahim, Abu Salem, Tiger Memon, Ali Budesh, Chotta Shakil, Shabir Ibrahim kaskar, Ejaz Lakadawhala etc. In which other country they will get so much fame and glory?

.......while I cannot think of a prominent Hindu from Pakistan. Gee wonder why? Pakistan used to be 20% hindu and is now 1.5%

T L Lipsovich says

I guarantee you if you went to BLM or an Arab Parade in Detroit, and starting talking about the absolute fact of massive, millenium long Arab Slavery that was only ended by Europeans imposing their will on them, they'd call you a Nazi and deny the whole thing.

I think it's more likely they'd beat you to death and rape the corpse. These people have shown repeatedly that they have no respect for facts, free speech, property, other people, or the law in general. They are literally the barbarians at the gate, and our leaders have been holding that gate open for their invasion.

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