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CBOEtrader says

We hold constitutionally guaranteed personal liberties above any group or ideological loyalty. We are like the ACLU in the 80's who defended the neo-NAZI's right to demonstrate in Skokie...absolutely the right thing to do, even if the content is deplorable.

And one day hopefully people will talk about how patrick.net did the right thing too, by promoting free speech even if the content is deplorable on either side. :-)

Apoc is Ador is my favorite pat.netter .

You've kept character for years. Is this an art project? I'll bet you are PC as fuck at work, constrained by a suit/tie like an obedient cis/white/male, haha

The women's marches were representative of the mainstream left opposition to trump. They were friendly and peaceful. The Berkley riots were as representative of the left as Dylan Roof is of the right.

CBOEtrader says

errc says

The Right has millions of armed thugs in place to kick in your door and murder you for this. Literally.

Literally Hitler himself will come kill you right?

errc, thanks for providing a perfect example of our current insanity. ladies and gentleman, ^^ this is what crazy looks like. sprinkle in some righteousness and we have problems...

What is crazy about the truth?

Are you denying reality, or just ignorant of it?

errc says

What is crazy about the truth?

The right has millions of armed thugs?

Have not seen them. Where are they hiding these millions?

The Police State is an armed malitia of right wing militants. Carrying out right wing laws for their right wing government.

Have you somehow missed all the calls from right wingers for the police to start shooting the protesters?

I've seen at least four different posters on your site say this.

Local police
State Police
Litany of federal agencies that enforce right wing government right wing laws

Or did you think that the Police State and Prison system are leftist entities?

Who are those crazy leftists protesters clashing with?

errc says

The Police State is an armed malitia of right wing militants. Carrying out right wing laws for their right wing government.

Were the police also right wing thugs when Obama was Executive in Chief for 8 years? What about when D's also controlled congress in 2009?

This is lunacy.

Were the police also right wing thugs when Obama was Executive in Chief for 8 years? What about when D's also controlled congress in 2009?

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Yes

Do you believe The Police State is a left wing entity?

CBOEtrader says

The Chicago 4 who kidnapped and tortured a trump supporter were so intensely righteous, that they broadcast their crimes LIVE ON FACEBOOK TO THOUSANDS OF VIEWERS. I have never seen anything like this in the US... and I've lived in every corner of our country: Texas, NY, CA, VA and IL, in both rural and city communities. Never, ever, ever have I seen this level of vitriol and violence spewed at innocent Americans.

Yep. They had a convicted kidnapper, torturer, and murderer of a Gay Man as a big speaker at the Women's March on DC, and the MSM didn't acknowledge that or thought it was "newsworthy" - Donna Hylton.

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/04/08/nyregion/the-city-7-held-in-slaying-of-man-in-trunk.html
Her self-righteousness about her torturer and murder inspired a Psychology Today Article. "He was just a homo, anyway"
https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199507/crime-and-punishment
Now she's a "Civil Rights" activist. However, I guess he was a real estate agent.

The BLM Ideology and the poem they recite at meetings comes from the writings of a Black Lesbian Communist Cop-killer, Black Panther and Black Liberation Army member, currently hiding in exile in Cuba after fleeing the authorities named Assata Shakur.

It is our duty to fight for our freedom
It is our duty to win.
We must love each other and support each other.
We have nothing to lose but our chains.

I guess she's replacing Mumia Abu-Jamal as the Left's most beloved radical cop-killer. Maybe because the Women and Lesbian is like an added bonus to Oppressed Minority "Righteous" Fury.

Another example of Media Lies by Omission.

T L Lipsovich says

Assata Shakur

Tupac Shakur godmother

CBOEtrader says

I want to talk about the Krauts.

It's not a coincidence that German culture spawned both the Nazi's AND is at the center of today's PC culture. As a society, virtue signalling is far more important than individual liberty to them. Righteousness is more important than truth.It was a recipe for fascism in the 30's, just like today.

For the record, my grandmother is a german immigrant. My baddass polish grampa knocked her up in Germany right after ww2. She came to ellis island holding my infant mother, and started her new american life in detroit, back in 1948. I still have Opa's nazi paraphernalia, pictures, etc... We even have his fucking journal.

Germans in WW2 were drunk on their own righteousness while acting out violence for the 3rd Reich. Who does that sound like?...

You sound like my German friends from eastern Bavaria - wow.
Would be in your debt if you could find any Psych Journals on this (Although your IQ might be quite high!)

marcus says

This is better than Glenn Beck that takes 10 y

Was Glenn beck a fan of trump?

MMR says

Was Glenn beck a fan of trump?

No, Glenn Beck hated Trump.

rando says

White supremacists and the KKK barely exist at all.

I don't agree with that. And Trump will cause a greater number of people to become them.

Drumpf is from Germany, in case you all forgot. He believes he has a special gene. Yes he has a special gene to screw people over.

CBOEtrader says

Righteousness turns us into Nazis.

You are truly an idiot. You don't even know what you say. Nazis are Nazis because they are unrighteous racists. They cannot distinguish between peaceful factions and non peaceful factions. There is something missing in their brains. They reason like sub humans. I know that technically, they are humans, but there is something wrong with them.

T L Lipsovich says

rando says

I used to like Falco. He has his own unique accent in German. Affected, but fun.

When I was a kid I thought it was "Hot Potato, hot potato, hot potato, oooh, rock me hot potato".

Falco was actually Austrian, but their accent is close to Bavarian. He was a very talented musician very much ahead of his time. And patnet style politically incorrect, as 'Jeannie' was censored by many outlets back then - which of course only had the opposite effect and made him more popular and famous. Similar to the Trump election.

Gary Anderson says

Drumpf is from Germany, in case you all forgot. He believes he has a special gene. Yes he has a special gene to screw people over.

Actually his mother was of Scottish origin. Hence the reddish hair and interest in business.

Need to cover all the stereotypes if we're going to cover any.

rando says

bob2356 says

White supremacists and the KKK aren't watching NPR.

White supremacists and the KKK barely exist at all. The few that do are given such colossal media hype and coverage that it must be quite a rush.

In fact NPR now has 24/7 devoted to 2 topics

1) Trump's latest inaccurate statement

2) The nations largest terror attack which was domestically grown, they are promoting their documentary on McVeigh nonstop, of course leading in that it was the largest and home-grown.

For a while they also 24/7 covered Turmp's gmail twitter account and possible use of a linked unsecured Android phone - while being mostly silent on Clinton's email scandal during the election campaign - but they recently stopped as nobody gave a fuck.

NPR has completely gone down the drain.

Gary Anderson says

Nazis are Nazis because they are unrighteous racists. They cannot distinguish between peaceful factions and non peaceful factions. There is something missing in their brains. They reason like sub humans. I know that technically, they are humans, but there is something wrong with them.

So you could never be a Nazi, right?

rando says

Gary Anderson says

Nazis are Nazis because they are unrighteous racists. They cannot distinguish between peaceful factions and non peaceful factions. There is something missing in their brains. They reason like sub humans. I know that technically, they are humans, but there is something wrong with them.

So you could never be a Nazi, right?

Unrighteous racists? Haha, almost noone wakes up in the morning and thinks "Lets go fuck over the world and do evil shit." Soldiers almost always justify their own violence. Even Hitler believed he was doing the right thing for the human race.

"Haha, almost noone wakes up in the morning and thinks "Lets go fuck over the world and do evil shit."

You clearly haven't met Steve Bannon.

mell says

In fact NPR now has 24/7 devoted to 2 topics

How cute that you watch NPR 24/7.

THe idea that righteousness causes Naziism is absurd.

SOme righteousness is idiots such as TPB or the Chicago 4, other times people are righteous about true grivances about the behavior of criminals or corrupt governments or whatever.

Being righteous or self righteous doesn't mean you're wrong. Sometimes something is bad enough that people stand up and strongly object to it. Of course those who disagree can call it righteousness. When people righteousy claim that free speech on college campuses should be protected, they're correct, and others should join them. Righteousness is beside the point.

Sure an angry mob that won't wait for due process ? That's wrong (almost always).

I don't know what the word is to describe my feelings about Thump's comments about police doing asset forfeiture, but I could probably sound self righteous about it. WHAT THE FUCK ?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-asset-forfeiture_us_589a16bce4b0c1284f28be3c?ref=patrick.net&b9p9nzxoft21emi&

Does he hope to use this on his enemies one day ?

It's righteous virtue signalling that's the cause of fascism and Islamic terrorism.

It's that some members of the crowd are rabidly righteous and the others start to go along to signal that they are "good" too. Eventually that whole damn crowd is ready to viciously turn on anyone who is not giving off the correct PC signals.

How quickly and strongly that process happens is cultural. The Germans are definitely into shaming others for thinking incorrectly. As are the Japanese. And US leftists.

joeyjojojunior says

"Haha, almost noone wakes up in the morning and thinks "Lets go fuck over the world and do evil shit."

You clearly haven't met Steve Bannon.

I doubt you've met Steve Bannon either.

No one truly believes that Steve Bannon is simply out to fuck over the world and do evil shit.

"I doubt you've met Steve Bannon either. No one truly believes that Steve Bannon is simply out to fuck over the world and do evil shit."

No, I haven't met him. And that might be a slight exaggeration, but only slight.

rando says

No one truly believes that Steve Bannon is simply out to fuck over the world and do evil shit.

Steve Bannon is just Ariana Huffington with a few extra successful career paths on his resume. They both run biased, divisive click bait rags. Is Ariana Huffington also evil?

"Steve Bannon is just Ariana Huffington with a few extra successful career paths on his resume. They both run biased, divisive click bait rags. Is Ariana Huffington also evil?"

Running the click bait rag isn't what makes him evil.

So what does make him evil in your opinion?

marcus says

THe idea that righteousness causes Naziism is absurd.

Righteousness is not a sufficient condition. It is a necessary condition for group evil behavior on another group.

Show me a historical example where righteousness was not a core motivating factor in delusional group evil...

Every war, every genocide, racist oppression, the inquisition... you find righteousness at the core of each one. Show me where I'm wrong

I think Planned Parenthood bombers and doctor murderers might be an example of right wing righteousness taken to its extreme. Really don't hear all that much condemnation for such acts from the dominionist Mike Pence types.

rando says

It's that some members of the crowd are rabidly righteous and the others start to go along to signal that they are "good" too. Eventually that whole damn crowd is ready to viciously turn on anyone who is not giving off the correct PC signals.

And then they start one upping each other with demonstrations of righteous rhetoric.

Perfect Recent Example:
The Daily Californian, the Student Newspaper of Berkeley. The writers one up each other in successive articles.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/07/berkeley-student-paper-publishes-columns-praising-anti-milo-riot/

Each successive article praises Antifa more highly, calls people who opposed antifa violence "Unaware of their Privilege", insists the violence was a righteous pre-emptive strike, cutting off violence from "Radicalized White Males" at the pass. Kind of like Bush's claims about Iraq.

In fact, condemning the violence makes you one of the un-righteous:

And words are violence - which has been hinted at by our own posters: "Words Inspire Deeds therefore no anonymity, consequences for Free Speech".

Our own @Rashomon agrees, since he thinks Words lead to Deeds, therefore Speech should never be anonymous and have consequences.

The Rioters believed that since words lead to deeds, and Milo's words would lead to "White Supremacist Violence", they were justified in a pre-emptive violent strike to stop his words becoming violent deeds.

There's a psychological term for this I can't remember, but it's a helluva great excuse. "Punch Nazis". Who is a Nazi? Do they wear the SS Uniform? Or is it somebody you don't agree with?

cynn says

I think Planned Parenthood bombers and doctor murderers might be an example of right wing righteousness taken to its extreme. Really don't hear all that much condemnation for such acts from the dominionist Mike Pence types.

This is a perfect example of righteousness gone awry. I hope no one would defend or encourage this violence, including pence

T L Lipsovich says

rando says

It's that some members of the crowd are rabidly righteous and the others start to go along to signal that they are "good" too. Eventually that whole damn crowd is ready to viciously turn on anyone who is not giving off the correct PC signals.

And then they start one upping each other with demonstrations of righteous rhetoric.

Perfect Recent Example:

The Daily Californian, the Student Newspaper of Berkeley. The writers one up each other in successive articles.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/07/berkeley-student-paper-publishes-columns-praising-anti-milo-riot/

Each successive article praises Antifa more highly, calls people who opposed antifa violence "Unaware of their Privilege", insists the violence was a rig...