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Betsy Devos: Evolution denier Pence casts ramming vote to drive fellow Evolution denier down our asses.


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2017 Feb 7, 10:50am   11,529 views  44 comments

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Terrible.

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This Democrats are just prolonging the inevitable with these votes just because they can (unspecified Republican quote). They know that we have the votes to ram these nominations through, and there's nothing we like better. So bend over libs and prepare to receive our religion (unspecified Republican thought bubble).

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5   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 7, 11:26am  

FortWayne says

If we evolved from monkeys,

There are lots of good books on evolution. I suggest you start at a library or book store. This is not a good argument for a variety of reasons.

6   FortWayne   2017 Feb 7, 11:30am  

YesYNot says

FortWayne says

If we evolved from monkeys,

There are lots of good books on evolution. I suggest you start at a library or book store. This is not a good argument for a variety of reasons.

You are avoiding the answer.

7   MMR   2017 Feb 7, 11:31am  

YesYNot says

understand if she accepts basic scientific tenets or knows anything about our education system.

If she could come up with a solution for the deplorables kids to get a decent education instead of just welfare, that would be something. While I doubt that will happen, I'm not sure how much an Ed.D. degree will help in knowing what path to take.

8   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 7, 11:33am  

MMR says

I'm not sure how much an Ed.D. degree will help in knowing what path to take.

If you reject the consensus thinking in the field of education, what do you suggest would qualify someone? Do you think Devos is in the right ball park?

9   socal2   2017 Feb 7, 11:40am  

YesYNot says

If you reject the consensus thinking in the field of education, what do you suggest would qualify someone? Do you think Devos is in the right ball park?

What has worked with the "consensus" since the Fed's created the Department of Education in 1979 and the increasing role of teachers unions running everything? I know it has been a great gig to funnel campaign dollars to Democrat politicians, but I can't point to any quantifiable education improvements. Can you?

10   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 7, 11:41am  

FortWayne says

You are avoiding the answer.

One thing is that single monkey's don't evolve. Species evolve through reproduction. So, perhaps you mean that no single species of monkeys has evolved. I'd say that is in incorrect statement. Perhaps you mean to question why there are still monkeys around. If one group of apes evolved to humans, why haven't all monkey type species evolved to be humans or similar?

The answer to the last question should be obvious. It's primarily the same reason that these fish are still around today: http://listverse.com/2010/05/14/top-10-prehistoric-fish-alive-today/

The reason that I just suggested that you read some books is that your questions didn't make much sense, and if I could venture to guess what you mean, the answer would be readily explained, and the explanation would be better than whatever you are going to get by asking such questions on the internet. If I wanted to read about religion, I'd just go read the bible. I wouldn't be trying to quiz you on things that don't make sense.

11   lostand confused   2017 Feb 7, 11:44am  

While I believe in evolution from a science perspective-I also beleive in God/greater force/something bigger than us. I fear for our country based on where the left has taken our campuses. We need change. Not sure if she is the change,but the public education folks are making this into a Marxist utopia.

Yes the 37 genders you may say 1% , but the 37 genders can now use any restroom-that affects all of us.

12   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Feb 7, 11:48am  

We constantly hear the US Ed system is inferior, that the only solution is to spend more money, but like with health care, we already do spend significantly more money per student than most other Industrialized countries.

Also, bring back trade schools. Not everybody is college material, a good third of the people in college don't belong there right now, and here's another truth:

Most people who graduate college end up doing jobs that were for HS Graduates 40 years ago: Sales, Office Administration, etc.

Spending the 11th and 12th grade learning Excel, Word, Telephone Mannerisms, Scheduling, SalesForce, etc. is just fine. Organizations are hiring English and other LibArts majors when a decently competent MSOffice user is the only skillset they really need.

Huge costs are imposed by making people pay $40k for State University when a few Office Admin classes are all they need.

In Europe and most of the World, Office Administrators and General White Collars are not college educated. You don't need a Marketing Degree to do Sales Support by scheduling meetings and tracking sales in Excel.

Taking courses in Maya Angelou, the Patriarchy, Critical Literary Theory, and the History of Gay Liberation are not necessary to have good phone mannerisms and type a memo in Word about not taking office supplies without signing off on them.

13   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 7, 11:48am  

socal2 says

I know it has been a great gig to funnel campaign dollars to Democrat politicians, but I can't point to any quantifiable education improvements. Can you?

I think that our education system has gotten better for poor people and people with disabilities. In good neighborhoods, kids have all sorts of education opportunities that I didn't have growing up. OTOH, they play too many video games, watch too much TV, and generally live in a spoiled society. We have too much free time and distractions. The vast majority do not have enough drive to learn skills, work hard, create things.

So, I don't blame educational problems on the public schools so much as what other influences our kids have. I also liked many aspects of common core math, and think that most parents rejected it because they were too lazy to learn how to do something new / different. For what it is worth, I am not in public education.

14   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 7, 11:50am  

lostand confused says

but the 37 genders can now use any restroom-that affects all of us.

You have seriously been personally affected by this? The worst things that have happened to me in a restroom have to do with being subjected to horrendous smells or other unsanitary conditions. We need more janitors and more respect for public spaces more than we need new rules for who can pee and shit where.

15   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Feb 7, 11:53am  

YesYNot says

You have seriously been personally affected by this? The worst things that have happened to me in a restroom have to do with being subjected to horrendous smells or other unsanitary conditions. We need more janitors and more respect for public spaces more than we need new rules for who can pee and shit where.

For starters, the concept of 37 genders unscientific. Is it really harmful that people drink water, aka homeopathy crap?

It's designed to help the mentally ill project their "reality" onto society. Just like Schizos are convinced they hear voices and the powers against them change the dates of today's newspaper, and want validation that this is a thing, many SJWs want society to go along with their "Dragonkin" or Special Unique Sexual Preference created just for them. Many men suffering from a Middle Age collapse in Testosterone won't even listen when the doctor suggests that might be the issue. Because biochemistry is reality when you "feel" it. Just like a schizo 'knows' he needs tinfoil on his head to keep out the Alien Mind Control, the low T guy 'knows' he's a woman. He feels it, so it must be true and everybody else doesn't understand.

I'm going to create a new Gender: Sexual Boobophile. I like big cans.

16   lostand confused   2017 Feb 7, 11:57am  

YesYNot says

You have seriously been personally affected by this? The worst things that have happened to me in a restroom have to do with being subjected to horrendous smells or other unsanitary conditions. We need more janitors and more respect for public spaces more than we need new rules for who can pee and shit where.

Several small girls have been -for life-thanks to your kind.

17   whattheF   2017 Feb 7, 12:06pm  

MMR says

If she could come up with a solution for the deplorables kids to get a decent education instead of just welfare, that would be something.

It would be something if a decent education was her goal. Define "decent" for deplorables. Look above at IronCuntMouth for context.

18   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 7, 12:13pm  

lostand confused says

Several small girls have been -for life-thanks to your kind.

I have no idea what you are talking about, but more than several small boys have been affected for life by religious molesters who are not of the 37 gender group that you fear. Is that all thanks to your kind?

19   HEY YOU   2017 Feb 7, 12:27pm  

Ironman says

Maybe next time, you won't pick such a shitty candidate for your team to win the election.

That's what Republicans will be thinking when,
ALL REPUBLICANS ARE BOYCOTTED

20   lostand confused   2017 Feb 7, 12:43pm  

YesYNot says

I have no idea what you are talking about, but more than several small boys have been affected for life by religious molesters who are not of the 37 gender group that you fear. Is that all thanks to your kind?

Perverts exist-but your kind allows them access in women's restrooms putting them in harm's way.

21   whattheF   2017 Feb 7, 12:48pm  

lostand confused says

YesYNot says

I have no idea what you are talking about, but more than several small boys have been affected for life by religious molesters who are not of the 37 gender group that you fear. Is that all thanks to your kind?

Perverts exist-but your kind allows them access in women's restrooms putting them in harm's way.

Perverted religious monsters are in harms way in women's restrooms? Fucking cunts have no respect for men's rights! You tell 'em lostandconfused! Only right wingers can keep these bitches where they belong...ON A LEASH!

22   lostand confused   2017 Feb 7, 12:57pm  

whattheF says

Perverted religious monsters are in harms way in women's restrooms?

Little girls are not perverted religious monsters-you left wingers are getting weirder by the minute.

23   FortWayne   2017 Feb 7, 1:30pm  

That doesn't answer it.

You are just dancing around the issue instead of admitting error in your thinking.

YesYNot says

FortWayne says

You are avoiding the answer.

One thing is that single monkey's don't evolve. Species evolve through reproduction. So, perhaps you mean that no single species of monkeys has evolved. I'd say that is in incorrect statement. Perhaps you mean to question why there are still monkeys around. If one group of apes evolved to humans, why haven't all monkey type species evolved to be humans or similar?

The answer to the last question should be obvious. It's primarily the same reason that these fish are still around today: http://listverse.com/2010/05/14/top-10-prehistoric-fish-alive-today/

The reason that I just suggested that you read some books is that your questions didn't make much sense, and if I could venture to guess what you mean, the answer would be r...

24   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 7, 1:38pm  

lostand confused says

Perverts exist-but your kind allows them access in women's restrooms putting them in harm's way.

Perverts molest children. My 'kind' doesn't allow molesters into restrooms any more so than your kind does.

25   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 7, 1:41pm  

FortWayne says

That doesn't answer it.

You still haven't clearly described the question or given any clue as to what is illogical about what is being observed. You will not be able to do so. Therefore, I'm going to ask you an equally silly question in the mean time. I suggest that you think about how this question is similar to yours. If a bunch of teams started the NFL season, and the Patriots won the superbowl, how come all of the other teams didn't win the superbowl as well?

26   FortWayne   2017 Feb 7, 3:10pm  

YesYNot says

You still haven't clearly described the question or given any clue as to what is illogical about what is being observed. You will not be able to do so. Therefore, I'm going to ask you an equally silly question in the mean time. I suggest that you think about how this question is similar to yours. If a bunch of teams started the NFL season, and the Patriots won the superbowl, how come all of the other teams didn't win the superbowl as well?

Your evolution theory says that monkeys evolved into humans, I've seen that chart that starts with monkey and progressively looks more like human after about 10 shapes. It's in every classroom. But it somehow doesn't explain than why did all the monkeys around the world stopped evolving into humans. There is a hole in your evolution theory, because it is wrong, people did not come from monkeys.

27   OneTwo   2017 Feb 7, 3:15pm  

You have to laugh. You can't even get the very basics right.

28   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Feb 7, 3:17pm  

In other words, the Democrats lost another political fight which was probably their best chance at inflicting a defeat on any of Trump's cabinet picks.

29   GNL   2017 Feb 7, 3:20pm  

Ironman - Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Funny shit.

YesYNot - Are you a fucking idiot? Watch a movie called "God is not dead". It will prove you are an idiot in the first 15 minutes.

30   OneTwo   2017 Feb 7, 3:31pm  

WorkInProgress says

Watch a movie called "God is not dead". It will prove you are an idiot in the first 15 minutes.

I think you proved you're an idiot in 2 sentences.

31   OneTwo   2017 Feb 7, 3:36pm  

Oh, what a surprise...

32   OneTwo   2017 Feb 7, 3:44pm  

Nearly 30,000 posts later and your posts are still the same. Hilarious. I think it's time you went on ignore for a bit.

33   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 7, 3:45pm  

WorkInProgress says

Are you a fucking idiot?

I'm not an idiot, but do enjoy fucking.

34   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 7, 3:48pm  

T L Lipsovich says

In other words, the Democrats lost another political fight which was probably their best chance at inflicting a defeat on any of Trump's cabinet picks.

I would have liked to see them focus on this one and the EPA guy and get something done. I hope they do their job vis a vis gorsuch, but they better Dan we'll get some digs in regarding repuglican obstruction of Obama's pick.

35   PockyClipsNow   2017 Feb 7, 3:55pm  

As a libertarian I'm 100% with Trump and anything he does.

The crazy christians might not believe in evolution, but who cares.

On the left we have the fraud of global warming so they can tax all the jobs to china - and its a hoax!!!

FUCK YOU DEMOCRATS FOR BEING GLOBALIST SELLOUTS AND MAKING ME SIDE WITH THE REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will never vote democrat again.

36   OneTwo   2017 Feb 7, 4:17pm  

Ha, ha, ha, I just knew you'd do your whiny little bitch routine. Why not go and cry to Patrick some more?

37   MMR   2017 Feb 7, 4:22pm  

YesYNot says

For what it is worth, I am not in public education.

Aren't you in fairfax county?

38   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Feb 7, 5:14pm  

FortWayne says

If we evolved from monkeys, why hasn't a single monkey evolved in last 10,000 years?

Lol...
Why has the bichon frisé evolved from wolves during that time? Why are there still wolves?

why do we still have lions while the smilodon disappeared?

39   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Feb 7, 5:49pm  

FortWayne says

what you are saying about the whole species evolved others didn't, that doesn't hold water.

... because we all know a species is all at the same place, same environment.
Seriously dude... these answers are obvious.
There are incontrovertible genetic proofs that evolution did in fact happen.

40   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Feb 7, 5:58pm  

FortWayne says

We are completely different creature from them.

Look at your feet. Why do we have toes? certainly not because having 5 appendages at the end of each foot is necessary for walking.
Why is the big toe slightly apart from the others? Like that would be useful for a monkey.
Why do we have toe nails? We can't use them to scratch, dig, fight or anything in fact.
Why would an intelligent creature give us attributes that were certainly useful to less evolved species.

www.youtube.com/embed/rFxu7NEoKC8

41   whattheF   2017 Feb 7, 6:25pm  

YesYNot says

lostand confused says

Perverts exist-but your kind allows them access in women's restrooms putting them in harm's way.

Perverts molest children. My 'kind' doesn't allow molesters into restrooms any more so than your kind does.

But your kind can read, and that's unforgivable for faux libertarians like lostandconfused.

Heraclitusstudent says

There are incontrovertible genetic proofs that evolution did in fact happen.

No, no! Fake News, that is, and DeVos will correct curricula accordingly.

42   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Feb 7, 6:31pm  

MMR says

Aren't you in fairfax county?

Not sure what you are getting at. I meant that I am not a teacher so don't have a personal stake in the discussion.

43   whattheF   2017 Feb 7, 6:42pm  

T L Lipsovich says

We constantly hear the US Ed system is inferior, that the only solution is to spend more money, but like with health care, we already do spend significantly more money per student than most other Industrialized countries.

Also, bring back trade schools. Not everybody is college material, a good third of the people in college don't belong there right now, and here's another truth:

Most people who graduate college end up doing jobs that were for HS Graduates 40 years ago: Sales, Office Administration, etc.

Spending the 11th and 12th grade learning Excel, Word, Telephone Mannerisms, Scheduling, SalesForce, etc. is just fine. Organizations are hiring English and other LibArts majors when a decently competent MSOffice user is the only skillset they really need.

Huge costs are imposed by making people pay $40k for State University when a few Office Admin classes are all they need.

In Europe and most of the World, Office Administrators and General W...

...and what, exactly does this diversion have to do with you advocating for a right-wing evangelical?

44   anonymous   2017 Feb 7, 9:04pm  

Ironman says

FortWayne says

If we evolved from monkeys, why hasn't a single monkey evolved in last 10,000 years?

Some have

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