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The fact that the demand side of immigration is underaddressed highlights the deliberate broken-ness of the US immigration system. It drives down US wages and makes for a readily available and exploitable CHEAP workforce.

Look how many people voluntarily left the US, and how many stopped coming, when jobs dried up during the Great Recession, for proof that reducing employment makes the "immigration problem" take care of itself.

I think cutting off the welfare to them would work just fine.

@ Patrick
I think your sign "ILLEGALS" misrepresents illegals by tagging them as being from Mexico.
Can you change it to maybe something that represent all types of "illegals"?

Jailing doesn't go far enough. There should be huge fines as well.

We should create the biggest jail ever and send them all over there so they don't come back. Build the jail! Build the jail!

Can you propose a way to meet the demand for products these jailed employers produced before they were jailed??

Better yet have the employers build the wall.
ddshutlz says

Build the jail! Build the jail!

Spot on as usual Patrick.

Patrick says

Jail the employers of illegal immigrants

This Trump Presidency has really got Patrick worked up.

Immediate death penalty for hiring an illegal alien.

ddshutlz says

Can you propose a way to meet the demand for products these jailed employers produced before they were jailed??

How about hiring Americans?

ddshutlz says

I think your sign "ILLEGALS" misrepresents illegals by tagging them as being from Mexico.

It's reasonably correct, since just over half of illegal immigrants are from Mexico:

In 2012, 52% were from Mexico, 15% from Central America, 12% from Asia, 6% from South America, 5% from the Caribbean, and another 5% from Europe and Canada.[4]

Patrick says

Jail the employers of illegal immigrants

Don't do this to me Patrick.
My gardener and the cleaning lady might be illegal. If they are gone, my wife will make me do all the work.
That is cruel and unusual punishment, which is against the law.

I bet there are gardeners and cleaning ladies who are legal and will work for just $1 more per hour!

this includes people who pick up illegals in front of HomeDepot.

Why is it racist to enforce border laws?

ddshutlz says

So if I want to be reasonably correct I would call you a racist?

Patrick says, "Democrats get more Hispanics who reliably vote Democrat."
While I agree taht jailing employers is more effective and cheaper than jailing illegal immigrants by cutting of demand and not the ever adjustable supply,
I respectfully disagree. Hispanics tend toward conservatism and are far from a homogeneous group. Cubans have as little in common with Mexicans as Berkeley leftists do with southern conservatives. Spaniards of Spanish birth are different than either of those groups and so on. It is as rude and false as if all European heritage persons can be described by white. The Irish are not the English (I have traces of both, talk about a mixed heritage!)

You left out the most important item.
The fact that conservatives are actively campaigning to deport illegal aliens.
If you or your family are in danger of being deported, that would seem to override all other considerations.

georgeliberte says

Hispanics tend toward conservatism and are far from a homogeneous group. Cubans have as little in common with Mexicans as Berkeley leftists do with southern conservatives. Spaniards of Spanish birth are different than either of those groups and so on. It is as rude and false as if all European heritage persons can be described by white. The Irish are not the English (I have traces of both, talk about a mixed heritage!)

Liberals call everyone racist who disagrees with them.

Yes, because liberals have been so brainwashed and distracted from fundamental economics that they forgot what the Left was all about.

It's up to us to start reminding them that all this race crap is so that people don't have time to talk about taxing non-productive rent-seeking by billionaires.

georgeliberte says

Hispanics tend toward conservatism and are far from a homogeneous group.

Yes, Hispanics tend to be Catholic and socially conservative, but for worker rights, which is a traditionally leftist issue.

All the race and gender crap is probably driving them away from the Democratic party just like it's driving white men away.

ddshutlz says

Can you propose a way to meet the demand for products these jailed employers produced before they were jailed??

Why should we give a fuck about a business that hires illegals? Let 'em go under, a better, LAW abiding business will rise up to take their place.

The cost of jailing employers will be infinitely cheaper than building a wall, and way more effective at stemming illegal influx.

We need both: jailing employers, and the wall. Neither one is sufficient alone.

If you cut off all incentive to border hop, employment, social services, medical care, schooling, housing, what need is there to still build a wall? If anyone still wants to come after all that is taken away, maybe they really do need asylum, and we shouldn't try to hinder their entrance.