U.S. Airport Pat-Downs Are About to Get More Invasive
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2017 Mar 4, 7:50am 17,946 views 51 comments
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Strategist
2017 Mar 4, 11:53am
You have completely giving up your safety.
So now you are a security expert too.
You always were an expert on:
Crime
Safety
Economics
And now "Airline Safety"
Patrick
2017 Mar 4, 1:10pm
If u don't like it take the train.
No law saying you have to fly
If we had clean efficient high-speed rail service, I totally would. It's much better to leave and arrive from the center of town than from an airport.
Dan8267
2017 Mar 4, 2:06pm
If u don't like it take the train.
No law saying you have to fly
No law says you have to use currency either, but try not doing so.
Some things are practical necessities in modern life. The public has a right to demand that such necessities do not harm the public unnecessarily. So yes, grievances against practices by the government, monopolies, and oligopolies are valid.
Some monopolies are necessary. Even a large city can support one, maybe two airports, at most. So yes, the public should be able to impose political pressure on having that infrastructure run safely, efficiently, and without violating human rights, or creating an undue economic burden on the public or individuals.
Shaman
2017 Mar 4, 2:28pm
The smart jihadist would just get a job with the TSA and terrorize people with impunity.
I understand the Orlando gay nightclub shooter had a job with a branch of Homeland Security. Talk about paying the fox to guard the chickens! Only in Obama's America...
I understand the Orlando gay nightclub shooter had a job with a branch of Homeland Security.
Actually that is not true. He worked for a security company that won some contracts from Dept of State and Dept of Homeland Security.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/629828/orlando-shooter-worked-major-homeland-security-contractor
zzyzzx
2017 Mar 4, 4:05pm
I guarantee you that the "security experts" will find a non-invasive alternative within an hour rather than causing massive economic disruption.
zzyzzx
2017 Mar 4, 4:07pm
It's much better to leave and arrive from the center of town than from an airport.
Really? Why? Generally speaking, parking is much better at the airport than the center of town.
Patrick
2017 Mar 4, 4:48pm
The center of town is where things are going on, as a rule. Except for cities with too much "vibrant diversity" downtown.
Airports are in hideously ugly strip-mall land where no living pedestrians are anywhere to be seen. It's all sadness and slow death.
Tenpoundbass
2017 Mar 4, 7:50pm
I like how the news expect the people that have never flown before to be outraged every time they report a Muslim that was inconvenienced by the Airport boarding protocol. Because Bush was such a globalist Shit suck, he didn't want to hurt the Muslims feelings, so he set up the TSA to pretty much pester and harass everyone.
You whining, pissing and moaning about your terrible treatment of the assholes at the airport screening process. Is music to my ears, how do think we feel?
FNWGMOBDVZXDNW
2017 Mar 5, 4:44am
All the assholes bitching about transgenders using the wrong bathroom
Those people want to be molested. They just don't want to admit it, so they make it a requirement 'for safety' .
The center of town is where things are going on
At airports you are penned in with people in transit. Flying out of Seattle, I am convinced people are flying high. On a recent flight, a tattooed row mate seemed to be on something, rocking his body, making repetitive motions with the tray, and repeating phrases to himself. He was very polite, was able to speak, and ordered a few bourbons, anxiously looking around for the attendant when he needed another. Maybe he had PTSD.
Dan8267
2017 Mar 5, 10:17am
So now you are a security expert too.
Well, if common sense and listening to the plethora of evidence done by experts makes one an expert, then yes. It's amazing how much knowledge one can gain by reading.
P.S. It's utter hypocrisy for someone advocating these policies with zero evidence to back up his claims to bitch and moan about the expertise of someone opposing those policies with actual evidence.
Dan8267
2017 Mar 5, 10:21am
What you fantasize you'll be sitting next to.
zzyzzx says
Reality
Still want naked airline passengers?
fdhfoiehfeoi
2017 Mar 6, 11:04am
All commercial air travel should immediately cease until the government can find a way to guarantee safety without committing sexual assault.
No one can guarantee safety, that's always a false promise used to get people to trade freedoms. And the track record for good safety ideas has already been cemented with the airlines themselves, and the passengers. Funny how the people most vested in taking a trip are also it's biggest security assets.
fdhfoiehfeoi
2017 Mar 6, 11:08am
Just get your official government anti-rape papers to avoid all the ogling and fondling. With my Sentri card, and it's built in RFID, I can travel molestation free anywhere I want to go.
Dan8267
2017 Mar 7, 8:14am
Just get your official government anti-rape papers to avoid all the ogling and fondling. With my Sentri card, and it's built in RFID, I can travel molestation free anywhere I want to go.
The government should not be allowed to charge for not raping. All people should go through the same process regardless of how rich they are.
fdhfoiehfeoi
2017 Mar 7, 1:28pm
The government should not be allowed to charge for not raping.
The charge is for 24/hr tracking. The not-raping is a fringe benefit.
Dan8267
2017 Mar 7, 1:31pm
The charge is for 24/hr tracking. The not-raping is a fringe benefit.
That's not a service the government is providing to the citizen, but rather a service the citizen is providing to the government. If anything, the citizen should be paid for everything he's giving to the government.
Y
2017 Mar 7, 1:56pm
Without the government there are no citizens.
Dan8267 says
The charge is for 24/hr tracking. The not-raping is a fringe benefit.
If anything, the citizen should be paid for everything he's giving to the government.
fdhfoiehfeoi
2017 Mar 8, 1:08pm
That's not a service the government is providing to the citizen, but rather a service the citizen is providing to the government.
In other words, every government program in existence...
If anything, the citizen should be paid for everything he's giving to the government.
Yet who pays taxes?
Dan8267
2017 Mar 8, 2:02pm
Yet who pays taxes?
There's a big difference between social services and infrastructure being paid for by the public and the government favoring rich people with a different set of rules. You should not be allowed to buy government privileges.
Strategist
2017 Mar 8, 3:24pm
If anything, the citizen should be paid for everything he's giving to the government.
Yup. Money grows on trees.
fdhfoiehfeoi
2017 Mar 9, 9:21am
There's a big difference between social services and infrastructure being paid for by the public
How much of that budget actually goes toward the people who need it? I can tell you from experience(wife is a social worker), that contracts are met by pushing papers around, not by actually helping people. Ever heard the phrase "government boondoggle"?
You should not be allowed to buy government privileges.
Sentri passes are like $80 for five years, WTF are you talking about?
Strategist
2017 Mar 10, 9:27pm
If tyranny is so wonderful, why do people try to escape North Korea?
That's where Dan and Jazz should go. They will feel quite at home there.
Dan8267
2017 Mar 10, 9:34pm
Actually, the world Strategist wants is like North Korea, a place where authoritarianism is absolute. What I want for the United States is the exact opposite of what North Korea is. I want a nation where all persons are equal under law with the exact same rights and no privileges for anyone, a society where we all obey the exact same laws, no exceptions. Strategists wants a class society with different laws for different people. He wants America to be North Korea.
Strategist
2017 Oct 15, 7:44pm
Actually, the world Strategist wants is like North Korea, a place where authoritarianism is absolute. What I want for the United States is the exact opposite of what North Korea is. I want a nation where all persons are equal under law with the exact same rights and no privileges for anyone, a society where we all obey the exact same laws, no exceptions.
Hello Dan, we already have that. It's called America, the land where millions risk their lives to get in. The land that has done so much for mankind. The land that sacrificed 620,000 young men so that slaves would be freed. The land that has given it's citizens a standard of living that is envied by the world. The land that allows you to criticize it no matter what.
The land that you hate.
Strategist
2017 Oct 15, 7:54pm
Love your country, but never trust your government.
We can change our government every 2 years.
Tenpoundbass
2017 Oct 15, 7:57pm
Dan8267
2017 Oct 15, 10:10pm
The land that you hate.
The fact that you actually believe that is proof that you are brainwashed. Any attempt to make America better or to save Americans you don't like, such as innocent blacks being murdered by cops, you call an attack on America. You are so full of shit.
Y
2017 Oct 16, 5:38am
tn2 says
If tyranny is so wonderful, why do people try to escape North Korea?
zzyzzx
2017 Oct 16, 12:08pm
Y
2017 Oct 16, 2:08pm
Unless you'd like to add some details....
freespeak says
Tyranny didn't work out too well for the USSR, Nazi Germany, and Cambodia so why are Americans embracing it?
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While few have noticed, U.S. airport security workers long had the option of using five different types of physical pat-downs at the screening line. Now those options have been eliminated and replaced with a single universal approach. This time, you will notice.
The new physical touching—for those selected to have a pat-down—will be be what the federal agency officially describes as a more “comprehensive†physical screening, according to a Transportation Security Administration spokesman.
Denver International Airport, for example, notified employees and flight crews on Thursday that the “more rigorous†searches “will be more thorough and may involve an officer making more intimate contact than before.â€
“I would say people who in the past would have gotten a pat-down that wasn’t involved will notice that the [new] pat-down is more involved,†TSA spokesman Bruce Anderson said Friday. The shift from the previous, risk-based assessment on which pat-down procedure an officer should apply was phased in over the past two weeks after tests at smaller airports, he said.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-03/u-s-airport-pat-downs-are-about-to-get-more-invasive
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