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CBOEtrader says

BUGS aren't used these days. Neither are wires tapped. Those are colloquialisms for monitoring activities.

Buzzt wrong.

Wiretap has a very specific legal meaning. See Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (18 U.S.C.A. § 2510 et seq. and Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA), 8 U.S.C.A. § 2701 et seq and usa patriot act, Pub. L. No. 107-56, 115 Stat. 272 (2001).

bugs are most certainly used, now more than ever. google sweeping for bugs and see how many thousands of hits there are for bug sweeping devices.

CBOEtrader says

So yes, Trump Towers calls would be available to the NSA/CIA w a simple FISA order to investigate Russia hacking, depending on the scope of the order. Am i missing something?

You've seen this fisa order? You are saying it specifically names trump tower and trumps lines? Can you post it for us? That would be great, thanks.

bob2356 says

Wiretap has a very specific legal meaning.

Wiretaps may have a legal meaning stemming from a bygone era. That doesnt change the fact that wire taps are not how monitoring is done by our government.

bob2356 says

CBOEtrader says

BUGS aren't used these days. Neither are wires tapped. Those are colloquialisms for monitoring activities.

Buzzt wrong.

bob2356 says

bugs are most certainly used, now more than ever. google sweeping for bugs and see how many thousands of hits there are for bug sweeping devices.

Sure, a jealous husband may use a bug.

The government doesn't need or use that shit anymore. Your phone, computer, and TV are all "bugged" already. Some judge rubber stamps an order, and voila, all your conversations are available to them.

bob2356 says

You've seen this fisa order? You are saying it specifically names trump tower and trumps lines? Can you post it for us? That would be great, thanks.

Not much besides hearsay has been released to the public. The wiretaps/investigations have been referenced with most details still unknown... but i think you know that. Always the troll i suppose

CBOEtrader says

Are you a spy Rash? Otherwise, lets all admit that we dont know most of the relevant facts in this case.

You seem to know enough to assert that it's true what Trump said and fake news about Russia...
CBOEtrader says

What am I missing? For the record, I openly ASK for people to tell me what I'm missing in my posts. I would never pretend to know all the facts.

Ha. You've been claiming all along that Russia is fake news and what Trump claims is fact. You don't even seem to realise that none of the reports state Trump and his aides were wiretapped - they say Russians were targeted. You can't even get that basic piece of reporting in order FFS.
The obvious point is that we don't know all the facts yet, so you can't make definitive claims. You, however, are doing just that.

CBOEtrader says

We've already had one. No evidence of Trump or any american collaborating with russia was found. Paul Ryan was very clear on this.

That wasn't what I asked, was it?