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Wondeful video.
I don't know who is more stupid......People who think putting women in Burkhas is OK, or the liberal feminists who think it's OK.

Strategist says

I don't know who is more stupid......People who think putting women in Burkhas is OK, or the liberal feminists who think it's OK.

That's an easy one. It's the feminists who champion the biggest misogynists on the planet who are the biggest idiots in the entire fucking world. On par with the Simpson's dog who is just slightly smarter than wet paint.

It was pretty good, but they did not present the problem clearly enough or give clear enough solutions.

The problem is Islam itself. The Koran is a dizzying repetition of the evil of non-Muslims, clearly incitement to hate and violence.

The solution is for everyone to speak the truth about Islam, especially to naive and misguided liberals.

Islam is a terrible thing. It's not racist to say so. Islam creates murderers out of people of all races.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

rando says

Islam is a terrible thing. It's not racist to say so. Islam creates murderers out of people of all races.

That's why we need more ex Muslims to speak out.They can't be accused of being racist when speaking out against Islam.
ex Muslims, especially the women, are my true heroes. I would love to give Wafa Sultan and Ayaan Hirschi a hug. They are doing more for mankind than any other liberal ever born.

rando says

The problem is Islam itself. The Koran is a dizzying repetition of the evil of non-Muslims, clearly incitement to hate and violence.

The solution is for everyone to speak the truth about Islam, especially to naive and misguided liberals.

Islam is a terrible thing. It's not racist to say so. Islam creates murderers out of people of all races.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

I respect Bill Maher and Sam Harris, but this video is not their best work. Harris embraces and practically quotes the Daniel Pipes fallacy about celebrating, empowering, and financing "moderate Muslims," i.e. conceding the premise of Islam and spreading the fertilizer in which literal Islam grows. Harris says to Maher (who does not contradict him), "We should be desperate to have moderate Muslims in this society. We want moderate Muslims... We need to empower the actual reformers in the Muslim world...and we want to help refugees. These people in Syria are the unluckiest people in the world. If they don't pose a security concern, we should welcome them into our society." Bombing and invading Muslim countries and importing Muslims, while deporting Christians, doesn't make sense unless the goal is to spread Islam. Petrodollars supporting Wahabi madrassahs don't empower moderates; to the contrary, they empower people who say we should be killed. If you want to win a debate within the Muslim world, then stop financing the Wahabis and stop spreading the Islamic manure from which Islamic terrorism and Sharia grow.

curious2 says

Harris embraces and practically quotes the Daniel Pipes fallacy about celebrating, empowering, and financing "moderate Muslims,"

I also disagree with the strategy of trying to moderate rather than eliminate religion. However, his basic point is right. This is a war of ideas and we need to win the ideas. That cannot be done militarily. It has to be done culturally.

The most important thing I got from this video is how much Sam Harris looks like Ben Stiller.

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Dan8267 says

I also disagree with the strategy of trying to moderate rather than eliminate religion. However, his basic point is right. This is a war of ideas and we need to win the ideas. That cannot be done militarily. It has to be done culturally.

We can't wait a thousand years to culturally win the war on ideas.
It has to be done culturally, militarily, with coercion, with criticism, with discrimination, and any other means possible. Like assassinations.

Strategist says

It has to be done culturally, militarily,

That whole military thing has backfired and made terrorism worse. It's one thing to strategically strike terrorists. It's another to wholesale kill babies. Killing babies have never won the hearts of people.

Harris' argument ignores the action of Hijrah, whereby observant Muslims undertake a migration with the purpose of spreading Islam to infidel countries. When there they will accept any form of welfare as jizyah or tax on the infidels, marry as many wives as possible and pump out babies to be carefully indoctrinated in the closest interpretation of Islam. It's a demographic invasion of ideas. Their ideas aren't strong enough to support conversion of infidels except by two means: invasion and subjugation.

https://patrick.net/1296384/2016-09-30-hijrah-when-migration-becomes-jihad

Quigley says

invasion and subjugation

A good place for this comment from another venue again:

"What happens to countries that Muslims occupy? As long as the Islamism following population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness: United States Muslim 1.0% Australia Muslim 1.5% Canada Muslim 1.9% China Muslim 1%-2% Italy Muslim 1.5% Norway Muslim 1.8% At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs: Denmark Muslim 2% Germany Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom Muslim 2.7% Spain Muslim 4% Thailand Muslim 4.6% From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ). France Muslim 8% Philippines Muslim 5% Sweden Muslim 5% Switzerland Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands Muslim 5.5% Trinidad &Tobago Muslim 5.8% At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule them under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world. When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam Mohammed cartoons). Guyana Muslim 10% India Muslim 13.4% Israel Muslim 16% Kenya Muslim 10% Russia Muslim 10-15% After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning: Ethiopia Muslim 32.8% At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare: Bosnia Muslim 40% Chad Muslim 53.1% Lebanon Muslim 59.7%"