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"there is still zero evidence of Trump/Russia collusion"
I already showed you the evidence. So, that's another lie.
I already showed you the evidence. So, that's another lie.
Now he's just trying to win by wearing the truth down to a stub with the sandpaper of hyperbole. What a rube.
"there is still zero evidence of Trump/Russia collusion"
I already showed you the evidence. So, that's another lie.
The entire world, including our own intelligence agencies all disagree with you.
It doesnt matter how many times you stamp your feet, Trump still isnt under investigation. There are still zero facts of Trump/Russia collusion.
The Democrats loss at the polls in November was so shocking to them in their elite class echo chambers that the only thing which made sense was this conspiracy theory that the Russians must have somehow hacked the election! Since then it's been a non stop parade of conjecture and speculation mixed with flat out lies and wishful thinking. You'd think that with the full attention and investigative abilities of the entire mainstream press, the CIA, and the FBI, we'd have seen some actual evidence by now, were there any to find.
But no, the establishment will keep on beating this tired drum to ward off the nagging thoughts that keep trying to intrude. Thoughts like they lost because they weren't good enough. They didn't represent the people well. They lost sight of reality. They committed blatant voter fraud and got caught. They tried to brow beat America into voting their way with Brownshirt tactics and mobs of violent criminals.
Nooooooo..... MUST...BE...RUSSIA!
"Now he's just trying to win by wearing the truth down to a stub with the sandpaper of hyperbole. What a rube."
Seriously, are you blind man? I've posted the quote from the former FBI director when he was asked exactly "Is Trump under investigation?" His response was basically that he couldn't comment. CBOE believes that to mean that Trump for certain isn't under investigation?? Really? And you think he's telling the truth?
Open your eyes for God's sake!
"I pointed it out in the moment. You can go get them again as you are making the claim that Comey quotes prove your statements, when they obviously dont."
Wow--you really are Ironman reincarnated. Yes, Comey does prove my statement. As I've posted.
You can't provide anything because nothing exists. You are lying, plain and simple, and got called on it.
"The entire world, including our own intelligence agencies all disagree with you."
Well, besides the obvious mistake that you have absolutely NO idea what the entire world thinks, there are clearly some who believe that evidence of collusion exists. Namely Chris Steele for one. And you have no idea what evidence the FBI has found or is investigating right now.
If you don't know the answer to this, you have no business posting on here. Similarly if you don't understand who is considered part of the Trump Administration.
Are the Associates of Trump's Associates considered part of his Camp/Admin now?
If not, then the investigation of Trump Associate Flynn's Associates have nothing to do with Trump or his Administration.
Also, there must be a similar investigation into Podesta as there was for Manafort, since the former did not disclose for 5 years he had the same exact client as Manafort and received $750k to $1M in fees while he was lobbying Hillary, then Secretary of State. He also has Russia investments he put in an LLC in his daughter's name, but the Email leak revealed Podesta personally sent emails weighing in on decisions as if he still was the lead investor.
This is far stronger grounds for starting an investigation than Trump's associates had.
Finally, and Russia Conspiracy theorists dodge this one like the plague, when oh when will the DNC turn over it's server for Cyberwarfare and Counterintel analysis to Government Agencies? Don't the Democrats want a Russian Hack link conclusively established? Or maybe they know damn well there were too many hackers in their system from all over the world, pulling data from their own servers, making them look incompetent?
Let's not forget the unmasking by Rice and one of Obama's final EO's was to distribute surveillance information as widely as possible to maximize leak potential. The various Oligarch Legacy Media outlets then began trumpeting "Deep State" leaks within hours, including using the words "wiretap" and "transcript" proving surveillance. You don't get a transcript in a summary, but only when you record conversations, chat logs, or phone calls.
there are clearly some who believe that evidence of collusion exists. Namely Chris Steele for one.
And whakaloon MP Louise Mensch and John "Let me show you my penis" Schindler for another, LOL
"If not, then the investigation of Trump Associate Flynn's Associates have nothing to do with Trump or his Administration."
The investigation is of the Trump Administration. Those are the exact words of the former FBI director. Period.
All your other stuff is nonsense. There is no equivalency because nobody is accusing Podesta or colluding with Russia to interfere in the election.
"And whakaloon MP Louise Mensch and John "Let me show you my penis" Schindler for another, LOL"
Yes, by all means, try to impugn the author. Because we all know that a good deal of the report has been independently verified by intelligence services.
All your other stuff is nonsense. There is no equivalency because nobody is accusing Podesta or colluding with Russia to interfere in the election.
Manifort was investigated for his connections to the former, legitimate Government of the Ukraine.
Podesta needs to be investigated for ditto, as he was paid to lobby for the exact same client, there were 5 year late disclosures AND that he was lobbying Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, at the time.
Cognitive Dissonance is a bitch!
"Cognitive Dissonance is a bitch!"
Before May 9th: "Comey should resign! Rigged Election for Trump, who will never fire him!! Even Chuck Schumer has no confidence in him anymore!!"
After May 9th: "How DARE FASCIST ORANGEDOUCHE fire Noted Selfless, Diligent Civil Servant Comey!!! Independent Prosecutor! Impeach now!"
This is SO delicious.
Wow--you really are Ironman reincarnated. Yes, Comey does prove my statement. As I've posted.
total. idiot.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/08/politics/white-house-donald-trump-russia-james-clapper/
or another: http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/10/rand-paul-comey-firing-dems-pushing-huge-myth-about-trump-russia Zero evidence. Fact. Not under investigation. Fact.
total. idiot.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/08/politics/white-house-donald-trump-russia-james-clapper/
You're quoting a guy who didn't even know the FBI was investigating the Trump Administration? That's your inside source?
"Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said before a Senate Judiciary subcommittee that he was not aware of any evidence demonstrating collusion, but also said he had been unaware of an FBI investigation into the matter until FBI Director James Comey announced it to the public at a House hearing in March.
Talk about a total idiot.
or another: http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/10/rand-paul-comey-firing-dems-pushing-huge-myth-about-trump-russia Zero evidence. Fact. Not under investigation. Fact.
Here's a tip for you. One senator saying he isn't aware of any evidence doesn't mean evidence doesn't exist. I'm sure there is almost an immeasurable amount of information that Sen. Paul is not aware of. Does that mean all of that information is wrong?
You're wrong. Give it up.
After May 9th: "How DARE FASCIST ORANGEDOUCHE fire Noted Selfless, Diligent Civil Servant Comey!!! Independent Prosecutor! Impeach now!"
This is SO delicious.
Still waiting for you to quote ANY Democrats praising Comey and protesting the firing based on Comey's competence.
More BS from the Trump brigade.
You're wrong. Give it up.
you, nor anyone else has shown any evidence to the contrary. You are having a fever dream sold to you by CNN and NYT. Believe a fantasy if you want.
you, nor anyone else has shown any evidence to the contrary. You are having a fever dream sold to you by CNN and NYT. Believe a fantasy if you want.
I have provided links and quotes from Comey. And, for the record, I'm not saying the investigation will ever find a smoking gun of collusion between Trump and Russia. Only that some evidence of it exists and there absolutely IS an investigation currently underway of the Trump Administration ties to Russia. I have provided links showing the evidence and a quote from the former FBI director stating unequivocally that the FBI is investigating the Trump Administration.
So...you know more than James Clapper how?
Once again you can't follow the logic. I am not saying there is proved collusion. Only that we don't know. Clapper has been out of the loop for long enough that he wasn't even aware of the FBI investigation so him saying he knew of no collusion is not surprising. He wouldn't know.
That debate is now settled. Trump is not under investigation. Read it and weep jojo!
That debate is now settled. Trump is not under investigation. Read it and weep jojo!
yeah... this isnt even a controversial point.
I have provided links and quotes from Comey
that did not in any way support your claim.
"That debate is now settled. Trump is not under investigation. Read it and weep jojo!"
I did read it and the actual transcript doesn't say what Breitbart claims. Did you follow the link? Nowhere does anyone say Trump is not under investigation. At best, it implies it.
"that did not in any way support your claim."
Of course they did. My claim is that the FBI is investigating Trump Administration ties to Russia. And Comey said exactly that.
My claim is that the FBI is investigating Trump Administration ties to Russia.
Comey didnt say that. You are lying.
"It's just getting sad"
Just getting? It's been sad for a long time and this thread shows it plainly for anyone who has any last remnant of critical thinking ability left.
The Trumpbots are forced to split the most ridiculous hairs to try to have any defensible position on the Comey firing. And argue against things that are well accepted facts.
The Trumpbots are forced to split the most ridiculous hairs to try to have any defensible position on the Comey firing.
Defensible? Why would anyone be defensible. Trump is the boss, he can fire whomever he chooses for whatever the reasons he chooses. He fired Comey, I don't care why he fired him. I sure do remember Democrats constantly screaming that Comey should be fired when he was investigating "Hillary", and now they quickly switched their tune after he was fired. Hypocritical leftist crap is all I see.
"He fired Comey, I don't care why he fired him. I sure do remember Democrats constantly screaming that Comey should be fired when he was investigating "Hillary", and now they quickly switched their tune after he was fired"
Who switched their tune? Can you provide some names and quotes? Dems are saying the timing is fishy.
Just getting? It's been sad for a long time and this thread shows it plainly for anyone who has any last remnant of critical thinking ability left.
is this a shred of honest self reflection we are seeing in JoJo?
Dems are saying the timing is fishy.
Trump should have 1)Fired comey, or 2)Not fired comey?
There's only two possible answers.
Who switched their tune? Can you provide some names and quotes? Dems are saying the timing is fishy.
You keep asking for quotes. There has been abundant quotes just in this one post which is pretty much every Dem Leader, also John Podesta, Olberman, and other Dem Media/Activist screenshots of "Before and After".
Can't find my other post, but I repeat this article:
Here are some criticisms of Comey by Democrats (and one independent) before he was fired:Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York
"I do not have confidence in him any longer," Schumer told Bloomberg on Nov. 2.
"To restore my faith, I am going to have to sit down and talk to him and get an explanation for why he did this," he added.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California
"Maybe he's not in the right job," she said to CNN on Nov. 2. "I think that we have to just get through this election and just see what the casualties are along the way."
Pelosi continued that Comey's letter to Congress about the review of Clinton's emails was a "mistake."
Former Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada
In October, Reid suggested Comey's actions "demonstrated a disturbing double standard for the treatment of sensitive information" and may have violated "the Hatch Act, which bars FBI officials from using their official authority to influence an election," in a letter to the director.
Reid wrote that he has "been a supporter" of Comey's and "led the fight" to get him confirmed, as he believed Comey was a "principled public servant."
"With the deepest regret, I now see that I was wrong," Reid added.
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.
Sanders told ABC News just before Trump's inauguration that it "would not be a bad thing for the American people" if Comey stepped down.
"I think that Comey acted in an outrageous way during the campaign," said Sanders. "No one can say that this was decisive or this is what elected Trump, but clearly his behavior during the campaign in terms of what he said during the week or two before the election was unacceptable."
At the time, Sanders decried that there was no investigation into possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, a situation that has changed.
Rep. Steve Cohen of Tennessee
In October, Cohen called on Comey to "resign his position effective immediately."
"If Director Comey cares about the bureau and the rule of law … I'm sure upon reflection of this action, he will submit his letter of resignation for the nation's good," Cohen wrote.
He bashed Comey's letter as "plainly premature, careless and unprecedented."
"Trump should have 1)Fired comey, or 2)Not fired comey? There's only two possible answers."
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Most smart people can see nuance and don't live in a black or white world
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/10/maxine_waters_i_dont_support_trump_firing_comey_i_would_support_hillary_clinton_firing_comey.html
Just watch the video. Oy Vey.