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Cost of universal health care in CA bigger than state budget


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2017 May 22, 6:32pm   13,966 views  49 comments

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http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article151960182.html
The price tag is in: It would cost $400 billion to remake California’s health insurance marketplace and create a publicly funded universal heath care system, according to a state financial analysis released Monday.

California would have to find an additional $200 billion per year, including in new tax revenues, to create a so-called “single-payer” system, the analysis by the Senate Appropriations Committee found. The estimate assumes the state would retain the existing $200 billion in local, state and federal funding it currently receives to offset the total $400 billion price tag.

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41   missing   2017 May 23, 11:21pm  

http://www.ianwelsh.net/single-payer-healthcare-bernie-sanders-vs-the-wonks/

"Single payer costs less than the American system–about one-third less. Take a look at the chart above and find the Canadian line. Notice what happens after Canada goes from a private to a single payer system—costs drop by about one third compared to the United States."

42   curious2   2017 May 23, 11:55pm  

FP says

Notice what happens after Canada goes from a private to a single payer system—costs....

increased, though more slowly than in the USA. Megan McArdle made this point about all single payer systems. Switching to these systems has not reduced costs compared to what those costs were before. At best, they have slowed the rate of increase.

Meanwhile, Americans over 65 have already had a single payer system for more than 50 years called Medicare. It's become part of the problem, driving costs ever higher.

You have to confront issues of lobbying and influence peddling, otherwise any government program gets captured, and the bigger it is, the bigger the prize.

43   marcus   2017 May 24, 2:52am  

socal2 says

400 more billion?

It's 200 more billion, which has been my point. But you're right about my arithmetic being wrong, using strategy's 40 million number as number of workers.

44   missing   2017 May 24, 7:32am  

Patrick, does this being a free speech forum applies to all kinds of creatures or only to humans?

I am asking because I suspect that curious2 is a monkey who has learned to type. If you are OK with this, can I let my dog try posting on your site too?

45   Shaman   2017 May 24, 7:44am  

So what's to stop people from a different state from coming here for free medical care? The provides can't ask about legal residency! They have to provide care to illegal aliens, so they'd need to provide care also to people from other states!

So NOW the question is this: how does California pay to provide medical care to the entirety of the USA and Central America for free?

47   HEY YOU   2017 May 24, 8:20am  

One liners are great.
How much if Republicans were excluded?

48   Blurtman   2017 May 24, 8:23am  

Strategist says

It should be based on a national health plan, and not for foreigners who have not paid into the system

You've got my vote. This and a crackdown on illegals might get bi-partisan support.

49   RWSGFY   2017 May 24, 10:57am  

just_passing_through says

www.youtube.com/embed/q2jijuj1ysw

$900 for a doctor visit? WTF? Even in uber-expensive Bay Area this is somewhere between $150 and $300, IIRC.

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