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The Russia Narrative is officially dead


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2017 Jun 13, 7:27pm   22,019 views  133 comments

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Sessions put the final nail in the coffin into the Russian collusion narrative.

Predictions: 1) The MSM and the dems who let the MSM tell them how to think (maybe 20% of the population) will continue to fixate on the dead corpse of the Russian Collusion. 2) The dems will continue fail at the voting booth. Reps will gain more power in 2018. 3) Trump will soon fight back w indictments of the leakers and the pedophiles, with at least 2 high profile cases. 4) Comey and Debbie Wasserman Schultz are the most likely candidates to be those 2 indictments. 5) Those within the 20% of brainwashed Dems will continue to fixate on the now thoroughly thrashed Russia/Trump collusion narrative.

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112   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jul 11, 4:41pm  

Homebuyer credit

House – $2.6 billion to repeal a requirement that a $7,500 first-time homebuyer tax credit be paid back over time for homes purchased from Jan 1 to July 1, unless the home is sold within three years. The credit is phased out for couples making more than $150,000.
Senate – Doubles the credit to $15,000 for homes purchased for a year after the bill takes effect, increasing the cost to $35.5 billion.
Conference – $8,000 credit for all homes bought between 1/1/2009 and 12/1/2009 and repayment provision repealed for homes purchased in 2009 and held more than three years.[25]

Home energy credit

House – $4.3 billion to provide an expanded credit to homeowners who make their homes more energy-efficient in 2009 and 2010. Homeowners could recoup 30 percent of the cost up to $1,500 of numerous projects, such as installing energy-efficient windows, doors, furnaces and air conditioners.
Senate – Same.
Conference – Same.

Unemployment

House – No similar provision.
Senate – $4.7 billion to exclude from taxation the first $2,400 a person receives in unemployment compensation benefits in 2009.
Conference – Same as Senate

Bonus depreciation

House – $5 billion to extend a provision allowing businesses buying equipment such as computers to speed up its depreciation through 2009.
Senate – Similar.

Money-losing companies

House – $15 billion to allow companies to use current losses to offset profits made in the previous five years, instead of two, making them eligible for tax refunds.
Senate – Allows companies to use more of their losses to offset previous profits, increasing the cost to $19.5 billion.
Conference – Limits the carry-back to small companies, revenue under $5 million[26]

Government contractors

House – Repeal a law that takes effect in 2011, requiring government agencies to withhold three percent of payments to contractors to help ensure they pay their tax bills. Repealing the law would cost $11 billion over 10 years, in part because the government could not earn interest by holding the money throughout the year.
Senate – Delays the law from taking effect until 2012, reducing the cost to $291 million.

Energy production

House – $13 billion to extend tax credits for renewable energy production.
Senate – Same.
Conference – Extension is to 2014.

Repeal bank credit

House – Repeal a Treasury provision that allowed firms that buy money-losing banks to use more of the losses as tax credits to offset the profits of the merged banks for tax purposes. The change would increase taxes on the merged banks by $7 billion over 10 years.
Senate – Same.

House – $36 billion to subsidize locally issued bonds for school construction, teacher training, economic development and infrastructure improvements.
Senate – $22.8 billion to subsidize locally issued bonds for school construction, industrial development and infrastructure improvements.

Auto sales

House – No similar provision.
Senate – $11 billion to make interest payments on most auto loans and sales tax on cars deductible.
Conference – $2 billion for deduction of sales tax, not interest payments phased out for incomes above $250,000.[27]
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113   Patrick   2017 Jul 11, 4:50pm  

errc says

The first goal of any real American, concerned with fixing our country's healthcare crisis, is to decouple health insurance from employment, and end the political privileges and preferential tax treatment. MAGA by any definition

@errc Yes, this!

Please run for office. You'll have my vote if you just stick to that position.

As someone trying to start my own business (over and over) I continuously am pushed back to working for our corporate overlords by the cost of health insurance, exactly as they intended. The US Chamber of Commerce is ultimately to blame, IMHO.

114   Goran_K   2017 Jul 11, 4:55pm  

You also fojoeyjojojunior says

Whether it took 2 years, 5 years, or 10 years, the total cost was ~$800 billion.

Quoting again so tatupu can't go back and edit.

Here's the actual CBO report on ARRA 10 year cost projection.

From the report:

$2.527 trillion in spending
$744 billion ALONE in DEBT SERVICING

(and it's only gotten worse since the debt has actually gotten BIGGER since the CBO report in 2010).

Add another $2 trillion in administrative cost.

Not to mention the permanent expansions of medicaid, unemployment, and SNAP.

it is without doubt or argument the MOST expensive legislation ever signed by a president.

Are you going to admit that the CBO report proves your ridiculous lie wrong about ARRA costing only $800 billion or do I have to keep embarrassing you tatupu?

115   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jul 11, 5:02pm  

Goran_K says

Are you going to admit that the CBO report proves your ridiculous lie wrong about ARRA costing only $800 billion or do I have to keep embarrassing you tatupu?

Well, I can't even read your source so it's hard to know if you posted the truth or more BS.

But, even so, are you going to admit that my estimate was a hell of a LOT closer than yours? You said $1T per year.

You've only embarrassed yourself.

116   HEY YOU   2017 Jul 11, 6:11pm  

One can argue about whether debt is + or - & in the meantime the interest on debt will eat you up.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Borrowing money to purchase anything & paying even more in interest on the debt
is the ultimate economic genius.

117   bob2356   2017 Jul 11, 7:56pm  

bob2356 says

Feel fee to document exactly how the ACA is suffocating your small business.

Crickets chirping.

118   CBOEtrader   2017 Jul 12, 3:32am  

rando says

As someone trying to start my own business (over and over) I continuously am pushed back to working for our corporate overlords by the cost of health insurance, exactly as they intended. The US Chamber of Commerce is ultimately to blame, IMHO.

bob2356 says

bob2356 says

Feel fee to document exactly how the ACA is suffocating your small business.

Crickets chirping.

There ya go bob. Keep up the old man trolling if ya like. (Its not a good look on you.)

119   anonymous   2017 Jul 12, 4:38am  

CBOEtrader says

rando says

As someone trying to start my own business (over and over) I continuously am pushed back to working for our corporate overlords by the cost of health insurance, exactly as they intended. The US Chamber of Commerce is ultimately to blame, IMHO.

bob2356 says

bob2356 says

Feel fee to document exactly how the ACA is suffocating your small business.

Crickets chirping.

There ya go bob. Keep up the old man trolling if ya like. (Its not a good look on you.)

Not sure what you think you read there. Patrick was saying that he wants to start his own business, but he goes back to work for a corporation because he needs health insurance

120   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jul 12, 9:25am  

I'd say Goran lost this one...

121   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jul 12, 10:38am  

"I think you're lying AGAIN and you didn't quote me"

Just like his supposed CBO estimates. All lies.

122   Rew   2017 Jul 12, 10:43am  

joeyjojojunior says

Just like his supposed CBO estimates.

Bill will get a new CBO score, but no actual amendments/changes will be part of the scoring, as was currently being reported yesterday. GOP continues attacks on their own CBO official as well.

Take the campaign smarts of the GOP and the policy making of the DEMs: America really would be great again.

123   Y   2017 Jul 12, 10:50am  

Trump is safe.
His family will not turn on him for one single reason:
Anything the libbies turn up on the trumplings will be PRESIDENTIALLY PARDONED.

Everybody caught in this net will be pardoned. Everybody.
In other words, the libbies are like a dog chasing it's tail, when caught, there is no bite coming...

www.youtube.com/embed/zfBG0d5Oj3c

Rew says

Was it Collusion?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/collusion-trump-russia-campaign.html

Simple, rational, well done. Go NYT! Go Deep State!

124   Rew   2017 Jul 12, 10:56am  

BlueSardine says

Everybody caught in this net will be pardoned. Everybody.

"I'm so certain of this I posted this in three threads to make sure everyone can see how certain I am! I must beat back this paid shill Rew! I alone must defend Trump!"

125   Y   2017 Jul 12, 10:57am  

Ok, just in case anyone would miss it, i added some multimedia...

Rew says

"I'm so certain of this I posted this in three threads to make sure everyone can see how certain I am!

126   Rew   2017 Jul 12, 10:57am  

Rew says

GOP continues attacks on their own CBO official as well.

Speak of the devil. 22 mins ago this posted. For those paying attention, when the White House says things like this about it's own findings, it says much about this little democratic project of ours we call "America".

www.youtube.com/embed/dDvoGp_fd6I

127   Rew   2017 Jul 12, 10:58am  

BlueSardine says

Ok, just in case anyone would miss it, i added some multimedia...

Good plan. You are looking steadfast and calm. Carry on trooper.

Edit: I do love the media choice used as well! :)

128   Rew   2017 Jul 12, 11:00am  

innaccurately : Trump's finger prints couldn't be clearer.

129   Rew   2017 Jul 12, 11:27am  

HAHAHA! The White House pulled the video immediately!

BOOM!

Hehehe ... We made you fix your spelling!

www.youtube.com/embed/fPixk9_wgZk

131   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Jul 12, 12:11pm  

Clearly, the Russia narrative is dead. Nobody is talking about it anymore. There is NO evidence of any wrongdoing after 1 yr of investigation. Zero chance of any wrongdoing. Move along.

Clearly, the debt shot up under Obama, because of Obama's new spending. So what if Obama inherited a deficit of 1.4 trillion, which is about 7 times the highest pre 2000 US deficit ever. So what if he reduced the deficit by 70% while slowly pulling us out of the biggest financial crash in 100 years. So what if we pulled out of it much better than other countries. Do you see that chart with the cropped axis that Goran posted? Clearly, it wasn't because of all of the spending and tax cuts that Bush gave us. Everyone knows that tax cuts always raise more money than they cost!!!!! Clearly, it was the tax and spend liberal who is just like Bush by the way!!!!

132   Rew   2017 Jul 12, 12:58pm  

Found on Twitter:

"Be especially careful to...distort the meaning".

133   Rew   2017 Jul 12, 12:59pm  

'Nobody' is talking about Russia.
'Everyone' is talking about that Marine who lost his hat.

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