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Trumps Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton


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2017 Jul 9, 1:33pm   29,706 views  181 comments

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161   Y   2017 Jul 13, 3:08pm  

You are still thinking in 3d...very old school.
d1: Trump is corrupt
d2: we can fully see it
d3: Isn't it great!
d4: Nothing solved. You don't build the new house until the old one is demolished. Trump is the demolisher. Pence is the builder.

Rew says

"Trump is corrupt, and we can fully see it. Isn't it great! See we solved things!"

BZzzzzzzt. WRONG

162   curious2   2017 Jul 13, 3:11pm  

BlueSardine says

Pence is

a big reason why President Trump must be allowed to complete his term. Pence is worse than W in every way, but his empowerment of religion would endear him to KSA and the MIC, which might explain MSM support for him. Basically, Pence would 'build' on W's record of miserable failure and serving KSA. No one would benefit other than KSA.

Most of the people rooting for replacement are suffering TDS, and refuse to think through strategically.

163   Rew   2017 Jul 13, 3:18pm  

(popcorn)

164   Rew   2017 Jul 13, 3:22pm  

BlueSardine and Curios2 are illustrating a rift in the Trumpocracy.

Curious2 : Islam an existential and immediate threat! Need to kill all ISLAM.
BS : I defended Trump even on Covfefe ... but it's time to pivot. He is going down. Pence was the plan all along.

165   curious2   2017 Jul 13, 5:43pm  

Rew says

Trumpocracy.

The travel ban polls around +30 including broad majority support. It is much more popular than President Trump. He tapped into that issue, presenting possibly the first clear-eyed view of Islam expressed publicly by any President since Democratic-Republican John Quincy Adams. President Trump rode that issue and other protectionist policies to victory, but his administration's partial implementation might not work. If Democrats nominate somebody who isn't on the KSA payroll, someone who would stop hijrah, then Democrats could take back that issue.

Even if you insist on seeing Russia as an enemy, Islam is worse.

166   Rew   2017 Jul 13, 10:06pm  

CBOEtrader says

You are sometimes a smart, then your brain breaks like it did here.

You haven't even begun to see what you will consider 'break' yet. I think the nation is about to go bat shit crazy. Wait until you see the commie crazy left's answer to Trump. (It could very well happen!)

The center and cooperation is giving way. Faith in the institutions are now being lost badly on the left.

I think a healthcare vote may trigger right now.

167   Rew   2017 Jul 13, 10:07pm  

curious2 says

It is much more popular than President Trump.

Most things are, except the Healthcare bill.

168   Rew   2017 Jul 17, 2:10pm  

From the Mouth of Chris Christie: Russian oppo research probably illegal
https://apnews.com/6720759d5a8a42918d71dd0826d633c9/Christie:-Getting-Russian-oppo-research-'probably'-illegal

169   Blurtman   2017 Jul 17, 4:47pm  

Rew says

Trumps Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton

So what. What is the crime?

170   FortWayne   2017 Jul 17, 5:23pm  

That's not illegal

172   Rew   2017 Jul 17, 8:28pm  

FortWayne says

That's not illegal

Backed by what great legal opinion is that?

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

the desperation

I wiff it off the GOP and Trump as well. The lies and cover ups have compounded, and I don't think we have seen them stop.

Come on Trump, fire Mueller, and pardon all this. Do it! Do it!!

173   FortWayne   2017 Jul 17, 8:30pm  

Rew says

FortWayne says

That's not illegal

Backed by what great legal opinion is that?

You tell me what law did a private citizen (Trump Jr) broke here?

174   Rew   2017 Jul 17, 8:38pm  

FortWayne says

You tell me what law did a private citizen (Trump Jr) broke here?

Jr was acting for the Trump campaign. He likely broke "11 CFR 110.20" ... elected or not.

Even if no criminal charges are brought, Manafort and Jared are in the crosshairs. Jr is a gateway to the prize.

175   Rew   2017 Jul 17, 8:45pm  

Meanwhile tonight, Hannity is on air going off on his usual anti-anti-Trump tirades. Keep that up. See ya in 2018, and 2020. :)

176   FortWayne   2017 Jul 17, 8:47pm  

Rew says

FortWayne says

You tell me what law did a private citizen (Trump Jr) broke here?

Jr was acting for the Trump campaign. He likely broke "11 CFR 110.20" ... elected or not.

That prohibits money donations, not communication. We live in a free country and this is still a nothing burger.

177   Rew   2017 Jul 17, 8:48pm  

WH pool reporter on twitter right now (paraphrased):
"Asked source if there was a secrete Senate plan ...'Nope we are flying the plane into the ground at full speed.' "

Haha.

178   bob2356   2017 Jul 18, 7:33am  

FortWayne says

That prohibits money donations, not communication.

Bzzt wrong. It prohibits a thing of value in connection with elections. Hard to argue jr wasn't connected with the election or that the information didn't have value to the campaign.

(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

179   FortWayne   2017 Jul 18, 7:35am  

bob2356 says

FortWayne says

That prohibits money donations, not communication.

Bzzt wrong. It prohibits a thing of value in connection with elections. Hard to argue jr wasn't connected with the election or that the information didn't have value to the campaign.

(b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.

Yep, still doesn't prohibit talking. Don't quit your day job to give out legal advice bob.

180   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Jul 18, 8:16am  

If they gave Russia the green light to hack the DNC and HRC and release the information publicly, that would be a big problem. If they coordinated with the Russians in their attempts to use the hacked information, that would be a problem. If they agreed to lift sanctions in return for such help, that would be a huge problem.

Jr's meeting isn't definitive proof of any of these things. If it were, he'd be in jail. It's just definitive proof that Trump Jr wanted to accept Russia's help, and circumstantial evidence that he did conspire with the Russians to commit cyber crimes. Politically, it's a problem, b/c most people can fill in the dots. If team Trump 'probably' conspired, you can't put them in jail, but it will have political implications.

181   anonymous   2017 Jul 18, 8:24am  

FortWayne says

Rew says

FortWayne says

That's not illegal

Backed by what great legal opinion is that?

You tell me what law did a private citizen (Trump Jr) broke here?

Why do you think it is that you are always so quick to defend anything these people do?

Does it feel natural?

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