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curious2 says

The bottom line for target countries is as 2Scoops and others have described: labor competition driving down wages, more mistrust and strife, more surveillance, widening gap in power (including in the form of revenue) between elite and everyone else, less liberty and prosperity for most people.

Just to amplify, I think in Europe the desperate fight by wealthy landlords to prevent a drop/flattening of housing costs in the face of an aging (downsizing) and shrinking demographic. Protecting rental income, is a big factor in Elite support of mass immigration. Also why they prefer big family Muslims over other groups, esp. Eastern Europeans who have few kids.

bob2356 says

Bosnia was a purely ethnic war, not religious.

No, just the opposite, a purely religious war, not ethnic. Bosnians are basically indistinguishable ethnically from their Serbo-Croatian neighbors, and are simply the local people who converted under Turkish pressure:

Following its conquest by the Ottoman Empire in the mid-15th century, Bosnia experienced a rapid and extensive conversion of the local population to Islam, and by the early 1600s roughly two thirds of Bosnians were Muslim.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Also why they prefer big family Muslims over other groups, esp. Eastern Europeans who have few kids.

rando says

No, just the opposite, a purely religious war, not ethnic. Bosnians are basically indistinguishable ethnically from their Serbo-Croatian neighbors

Bosnia was a religious war, but it started as a war between Croats (Catholics) and Serbs (Orthodox). In some way, Bosnians were victims of a war started by others and suffered much more heavily than anyone else. I believe Bosnian leadership were the "moderates" in Yugoslavian collective presidency. Furthermore, Bosnians are about as much Muslims these days as Germans are Lutherans - in name only. In culture and behavior (including fertility rate) they are indistinguishable from their East and South European neighbors. I know a lot of them as I was in former Yugoslavia in 1989-1991 for several extended periods of time. They booze as much as Serbs, women do not cover their bodies (I saw very few wearing headscarves, and many more in dresses that do not fully cover their asses - much more revealing than in US). Seems that 50 years of communism has cured Bosnians of ills of Islam.

https://knoema.com/atlas/Bosnia-and-Herzegovina/topics/Demographics/Fertility/Net-reproduction-rate

rando says

No, just the opposite, a purely religious war, not ethnic. Bosnians are basically indistinguishable ethnically from their Serbo-Croatian neighbors, and are simply the local people who converted under Turkish pressure:

Yep. Bosnians are also perceived as Slav Traitors for the Turks and against fellow Slavs.

Forgotten is the war between Croats and Bosnians. This is because the Media demonized the Slavs, as the real EU head, Germany, has always loved Croatia; the Gulf States and Turkey loved Bosnia, Serbia was isolated as Russia was too weak to protect it, so it became the whipping boy from a lack of wealthy or powerful allies.

drBu says
Seems that 50 years of communism has cured Bosnians of ills of Islam.

To a degree, just like Communism cured most "lowland" Chechens of Islam. However, many young people in Bosnia, like the "Highland" "Mountain" Chechen, have re-embraced an extreme version of Islam. There are quite a few Bosnian Fighters in ISIS and other groups who have become worldwide Jihad volunteers, and many Bosnians from around Europe have joined ISIS, like the two dumb Bosnian Gals living in Austria.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

However, many young people in Bosnia, like the "Highland" "Mountain" Chechen, have re-embraced an extreme version of Islam. There are quite a few Bosnian Fighters in ISIS and other groups who have become worldwide Jihad volunteers, and many Bosnians from around Europe have joined ISIS, like the two dumb Bosnian Gals living in Austria.

True, and to a very large extent their embrace of Islam goes back to the civil war. The only ones who really helped them initially were Islamists who got entrenched there - so we can say that Serbian/Croatian aggression is the cause of radical Islam in Bosnia. Without the war there would be nearly no Islam in Bosnia. It is quite similar with Chechens as well - their first president was a Soviet army general who was married to a Russian woman and fought against Mujaheddin in Afghanistan. After Russians killed him, each new Chechen President was more and more Islamic and misery of war made Chechen population more and more Islamic. Carpetbombings, killings, war misery, and Saudi-financed propaganda made Chechens into Islamic fanatics. They have not completely succeeded with Bosnians yet.

Edit: and this is a fairly typical Bosnian fashion I remember from my visits there in late 80's: https://www.rooshvforum.com/attachment.php?aid=11612

Does not look too Islamic to me as it is not clear if she is wearing a short dress or a slightly enlarged belt :)