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Or don't have kids.

How about we put Al Gore on a strict vegan diet instead. Would be good for that fat fuck's health too.

mmmarvel says

So okay, he doesn't really tell you to kill your pets (dogs and cats)

Stupid straw man argument. Just implement pollution taxes including carbon and methane. No need to do anything else. Don't listen to any propagandist who says fighting climate change requires you to give up you pets, your cars, or air conditioning. Let the free market handle pollution by making the polluters choose between paying for the cleanup of the mess they made or stopping to make the mess.

The fact that the anti-environmental crowd resorts to these arguments shows that they have no case to make against the real policies being proposed by environmentalists.

Dan8267 says

Just implement pollution taxes including carbon and methane

Fuck frivolous taxation.

SpecialSnowflake says

Dan8267 says

Just implement pollution taxes including carbon and methane

Fuck frivolous taxation.

Pollution is theft. If you don't want polluters taxed for cleaning up the mess they created, then just outlaw pollution.

But hey, clearly you don't believe in the free market since you object to the one and ONLY free market solution to pollution.

Dan8267 says

SpecialSnowflake says

Dan8267 says

Just implement pollution taxes including carbon and methane

Fuck frivolous taxation.

Pollution is theft. If you don't want polluters taxed for cleaning up the mess they created, then just outlaw pollution.

But hey, clearly you don't believe in the free market since you object to the one and ONLY free market solution to pollution.

Report back when all pollution cheaters are caught and brought to heel. (See BBC article on "dodgy data and Paris agreement" for details.) Until then fuck all the fuckers who want frivolous taxes under a ruse of "saving the planet".

SpecialSnowflake says

frivolous taxes

Banner SpecialSnowflake will tell everyone which taxes to pay.
Looks like someone didn't/couldn't ban this comment.
Trolling can be such a pleasure.

SpecialSnowflake says

Report back when all pollution cheaters are caught and brought to heel

Report back when all terrorists are caught and brought to heel, until then according to your reasoning we should do NOTHING to fight terrorism. See why your position is batshit crazy?

Also, if you want lower taxes than cut military spending by 90%. That's where the VAST MAJORITY of your federal income taxes go.

SpecialSnowflake says

How about we put Al Gore on a strict vegan diet instead.

He already is. It's called the Distilled Spirits Wholistic Diet.

Dan8267 says

Let the free market handle pollution by making the polluters choose between paying for the cleanup of the mess they made or stopping to make the mess.

If polluters, primarily fossil fuels were forced to pay for the damage that is caused to the planet and our health (externalities), they would go out of business the next day. Good riddance.
I say we go easy on them by:
1. Eliminating the taxpayer subsidies they enjoy.
2. Taxing them more and more every year till they puke.
3. Use that tax money to promote clean energy.

I also support Congress pass a law that makes our Captain here, pay for Strategists electric cars.

Dan8267 says

SpecialSnowflake says

Report back when all pollution cheaters are caught and brought to heel

Report back when all terrorists are caught and brought to heel, until then according to your reasoning we should do NOTHING to fight terrorism. See why your position is batshit crazy?

No, it's your position which is batshit crazy: you're basically arguing for harassing law-abiding citizens (taxing little old lady's Yorkie) under the ruse of fighting big bad ISIS (i.e. AGW).

We both know that India won't do shit about their cows and that taxing Chihuahuas won't make any difference so all is left is desire to extort money from US citizens, pure and simple. Typical "progressive" shit.

Strategist says

Dan8267 says

Let the free market handle pollution by making the polluters choose between paying for the cleanup of the mess they made or stopping to make the mess.

If polluters, primarily fossil fuels were forced to pay for the damage that is caused to the planet and our health (externalities), they would go out of business the next day. Good riddance.

I say we go easy on them by:

1. Eliminating the taxpayer subsidies they enjoy.

2. Taxing them more and more every year till they puke.

3. Use that tax money to promote clean energy.

The problem is: even if you put into grave so-called "polluters" here in US, their counterparts in China, India, Russia, Brazil will pick up the slack. So the only thing you've achieved is further transfer of wealth from 1st world to the 2nd and 3rd.

SpecialSnowflake says

The problem is: even if you put into grave so-called "polluters" here in US, their counterparts in China, India, Russia, Brazil will pick up the slack. So the only thing you've achieved is further transfer of wealth from 1st world to the 2nd and 3rd.

They are going solar too. China is the number one in solar production. India has banned all new gasoline cars from 2030 onwards.

SpecialSnowflake says

No, it's your position which is batshit crazy: you're basically arguing for harassing law-abiding citizens (taxing little old lady's Yorkie) under the ruse of fighting big bad ISIS (i.e. AGW).

That's a non-answer to my rebuttal of your flawed logic.

Would you like to try again?

SpecialSnowflake says

The problem is: even if you put into grave so-called "polluters" here in US, their counterparts in China, India, Russia, Brazil will pick up the slack. So the only thing you've achieved is further transfer of wealth from 1st world to the 2nd and 3rd.

Tie access to the American and European markets to pollution caps. Problem solved.