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It's truly mind boggling how alt right has been publishing their manifesto based on so called "race realism", separatism, reversal of gender roles and now they act surprised that there is a counter-response.

Left wing vs right wing extremist violence is nothing new - there are plenty of documentaries about this phenomenon in the 1930s - there are plenty of corpses in spain, germany and italy to testify. Modern day conservatives that try to weasel out and claim that hilter was a "leftist" do not get to re-write history.

Antifa is an off-shoot of Black Block and they have been around since the early 1980's in germany to confront the neo-nazis and they have been very effective. Alt right just got a rude awakening and when certain people say "never again", they mean exactly what they say.

This video pretty interesting. It was shot by Ryoga Vee (aka Based Spiderman) who was to speak at the Patriot Prayer rally on Saturday. He had a dedicated Antifa stalker at the Berkeley rally that got taken down by the police. He was later evacuated by the Oathkeepers.
0:55 Sonic stalker
38:00 Evacuated by Oathkeepers
40:30 Keith Campbell, who got stomped by Antifa until Al Letson intervened, is examined by an Oathkeeper
Ryoga Vee is an interesting guy. Antifa threw a flare thrown at him at the Milo event in February and I think they pissed off the wrong guy. He'll show up to the right wing free speech events even though he is center left. You can corraborate this video with one that Black Rebel posted on YouTube.

It should be easy enough to cripple ANTIFA, just do away with the Obamaphone program.

Zzyzzx do you always like your own posts?

Hey Dan, over here:

http://patrick.net/post/1309183/tracking-altleft-violence

According to Marcus it's just pushing and shoving.

Marcus, the same guy that's afraid of me.

zzyzzx says

It is impossible to support both Trump and America. Those are contradicting actions.

Justicar, former Police Officer and current Statistician on #Antifa
www.youtube.com/embed/pu9JjMW2Lxw

Beat ya to it:

http://patrick.net/post/1309183/tracking-altleft-violence

Keep in mind it is not a terrorist organization. Just a group of similarly dressed people some of who wear masks and use violence to promote their ideas (fuck everybody else's ideas!) and the purportedly nonviolent members will not give up the masked villains or their identity.

Define terrorist organization. They are violently robbing others of their rights to peacefully assemble. They are chasing anyone who disagrees with them through the streets and beating them down with bats, while pouring piss on them.

I'd call that terrorism. The mayor of Berkeley at least calls them a gang now, which is a step in the right direction.

georgeliberte says

This definition of white supremacy is absolutely terrifying. Patriotism and color blindness? OMG these people are the worst

CBOEtrader says

This definition of white supremacy is absolutely terrifying. Patriotism and color blindness? OMG these people are the worst

I've been told to my face that individuality is a code word for White Supremacy.

Yeah, but a handful of Klansmen are the "bigger problem". The left has gone full retard. Never go full retard.

Antifa and its ilk seem surreal. These people are one of two possibilities:
1. Stooges for the right wing to cause alarm and trigger migration to the right as the only solution to left wing authoritarianism and violence; very unlikely because it requires a superbly organized and executed conspiracy. One caveat, it could be executed by a well-funded private benefactor such as the Koch brothers, but they do not seem interested in the topic of racism.
2. They are principally what they say they are- left wing activists. However, their world view is so skewed that they cannot comprehend when they are being ludicrous. In their world everyone else who seems normal and uninvolved are neo-Nazi l Klansmen. Everyone else is ludicrous, not the left who are the only people seeing the situation for what it is.
In any case they are doing more good than harm overall for the alt-right cause and undermining progressive causes. That is probably a good thing if this does not swing full-circle and empower the alt right. As Justicar points out the extreme right and left need each other to give meaning to their opposing (?) viewpoints and convince you if you are not with them, you are part of the problem. But in reality there are more than two points of view and a spectrum of moderate views. I hope the country as a whole realizes both extremes are children throwing tantrums and distorting the situation. While I am not a supporter, Trump is correct that Antifa is a terrorist organization and both sides were at fault in Charlottesville. I’ll add that BLM is a hate group even realizing Antifa will label me a racist because I do not slavishly agree with their every belief.
In their minds, everything a white person says is a code word for White Supremacy unless it is parroting Antifa declarations. Just breathing while white code word for White Supremacy. Remember white silence is white compliance in their minds

How many Americans comprise the domestic sect of #Antifa at this point?

errc says

How many Americans comprise the domestic sect of #Antifa at this point?

Public School Teachers. Professors. The Mayor of Berkeley is tied to "By Any Means Necessary" (ie not so coy term for "Violence").

Obviously they must terminated, since Government Funded Employees cannot be calling for violence, joining violent anti-White hate groups, etc.

Well, this thread has gotten off topic. It was intended as a consolidation of links documenting Antifa's various crimes.

I will give this link because it makes sense that Antifa and AltRight are psychologically the same.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451040/antifa-alt-right-idiot-boys-young-men-pulling-stupid-crap

https://pamelageller.com/2017/09/clinton-moved-800000-campaign-help-fund-antifa.html/

Clinton Moved $800,000 From Her Campaign to Help Fund Antifa

Antifa supports pedophiles:

TwoScoopsMcGee says

errc says

How many Americans comprise the domestic sect of #Antifa at this point?

Public School Teachers. Professors. The Mayor of Berkeley is tied to "By Any Means Necessary" (ie not so coy term for "Violence").

Obviously they must terminated, since Government Funded Employees cannot be calling for violence, joining violent anti-White hate groups, etc.

All Public School Teachers and Professors? What part of our country do you live in, because that’s not the case here?

Government Employees cannot be calling for violence...by your logic, shouldn’t Sessions be ousted for calling for violence against the citizenry? He’s vowed to double down on The War on Drugs, even after tens of millions have voted democratically to end it, and more than half of the States have now positioned themselves on the opposite side of the Fed Govs anti-American War against its own people?

I thought Trump promised to return Law & Order?

A better question is, why do you have so much trouble answering these simple questions? Is that your debate/discussion tactic, to avoid answering any questions that might make Trump and the Republicans look bad?

Notice the NAMBLA and Antifa logo on the banner next to each other.

errc says

All Public School Teachers and Professors? What part of our country do you live in, because that’s not the case here?

They include Public School Teachers and Professors.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/public-school-teachers-behind-violent-antifa-group/
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/05/25/college-professor-arrested-berkeley-trump-melee/ errc says

Government Employees cannot be calling for violence...by your logic, shouldn’t Sessions be ousted for calling for violence against the citizenry? He’s vowed to double down on The War on Drugs, even after tens of millions have voted democratically to end it, and more than half of the States have now positioned themselves on the opposite side of the Fed Govs anti-American War against its own people?

When did this Nationwide Vote happen? Are you confusing referendums for medical marijuana or the decriminalization of marijuana with Heroin, Coke, Meth, PCP, MDMA, etc. etc. that no majority has ever voted to legalize?

errc says

A better question is, why do you have so much trouble answering these simple questions?

You realize you're responding just now to a comment I made two months ago, yes?

zzyzzx says

Notice the NAMBLA and Antifa logo on the banner next to each other.

I noticed "No Pedo Bashing" on the main sign, while the person to the right of it is carrying a placard that says "No Rape Apologists at Columbia."

Aren't Pedos rape apologists, since underage kids can't consent?

Good question. When did the Nationwide Vote happen to permanently wage The War on Drugs?

What do you mean when you say Medical Marijuana? The Federal Government claims that “marijuana “ has no medicinal uses or value. They have plenty of laws with absurd penalties for anyone involved. I guess all of our military veterans using Cannabis to treat their PTSD are big time criminals?

George Soros is 87. I think y'all need to think about coming up with a new fantasy left wing boogey man.

Booger says

It's Morning in America and we're having the 2-2-2

errc says

How many Americans comprise the domestic sect of #Antifa at this point?

No answers, they are amorphous having no platform or candidates.

ANTIFA is by definition anti-American since America has been converted to a fascist state long ago and permanently at war for the profits to her plutocrats.

It seems half of what ANTIFA is purported to do is done by popular fascist racist groups to raise sentiments against ANTIFA.

anonymous says

Beat ya to it:

Why allow Trump to define the left by comparing it to a movement defined by a panderer to white racist identity politics. By “alt-left,” Trump and others are referring primarily to Antifa, the black-clad “anti-fascists” who rioted on Inauguration Day in D.C., at Berkeley shortly after (to forestall an appearance by alt-right icon Milo Yiannopoulos), and have made appearances elsewhere.

Antifa has never cast itself as a political alternative to the Democratic party as currently constituted, and it has no positive agenda (“anti-fascism”). No one is running on an Antifa platform.

Richard Spencer is president of the white nationalist National Policy Institute and coiner of the term “alt-right.”

The alt-right — the white nationalists, neo-Nazis, 4chan trolls, etc. — christened itself the “alt-right,” because it envisioned itself as a political alternative to traditional, mainstream conservatism. That is to say, the alt-right thought of itself ultimately as a political movement that would get people elected, move legislation, and do broadly the things one expects of politics, and they had an affirmative agenda of sorts

Sargon was attacked by Antifa while speaking at a College Event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmf1xkI03n8


He did better than Spencer, fending them off and winning their Banner.