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2017 Oct 11, 6:47am   12,901 views  55 comments

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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/11/republican-tax-cut-for-rich-economy-215696
"The Republican tax plan is a scam—a massive and destructive financial giveaway masquerading as pro-growth tax reform. Which is why our first response must be to demand not one penny of tax cuts for big corporations and rich guys like me. In fact, if I were Benevolent Dictator, I would substantially raise taxes on myself and my wealthy friends. Why? It is the only way to sustainably grow the economy, boost productivity, increase business opportunities and create more and better jobs."

Someone who gets it. This guy wants to help the middle class. Trump just wants to help himself and his family. Period.

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47   bob2356   2017 Oct 14, 5:06am  

CBOEtrader says

The discussion is about how capitalism, specifically free market capitalism, helps the underclass.


Like the guilded age or russia after the fall of the wall? That kind of free market capitalism?
48   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 14, 5:12am  

What's hilarious is that folks on here are using government programs (SNAP, WIC, section 8, Medicaid, etc.) to show that free market capitalism helps the poor.

Perhaps you guys should rethink your argument? If free market capitalism helped the underclass, we wouldn't need those programs.
49   CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 14, 5:17am  

joeyjojojunior says
If free market capitalism helped the underclass, we wouldn't need those programs.


Brilliant analysis Joe. Also, if you lived in communist Russia you should probably starve to death rather than eat the bread you get from the food line. Wouldnt want to be a hypocrite, amirite?
50   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 14, 5:20am  

CBOEtrader says
Brilliant analysis Joe. Also, if you lived in communist Russia you should probably starve to death rather than eat the bread you get from the food line. Wouldnt want to be a hypocrite, amirite?


Wtf are you talking about? That is not every remotely hypocritical.

Pointing out that free market capitalism doesn't help the underclass means I can't eat bread in Russia?
51   Strategist   2017 Oct 14, 9:31am  

joeyjojojunior says
What's hilarious is that folks on here are using government programs (SNAP, WIC, section 8, Medicaid, etc.) to show that free market capitalism helps the poor.

Perhaps you guys should rethink your argument? If free market capitalism helped the underclass, we wouldn't need those programs.


If the bums were willing to work instead of freeloading, we wouldn't need those programs.
52   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 14, 9:37am  

Strategist says
If the bums were willing to work instead of freeloading, we wouldn't need those programs.


Ah yes, the rationalization that allows Republicans to sleep at night. All welfare recipients are lazy bums who don't want to work. Freeloaders. Right up there with the myth that people who make more money are harder workers...
53   mell   2017 Oct 14, 9:48am  

CBOEtrader says
This is your core problem. You consistently redefine the world around you to keep your labels in place to which you are loyal. You creatively translate language around you constantly. I've noticed Dan does this often as well (calling antifa conservative for example, lolz). TBF, right/left/conservative have all lost definitive meaning. Liberal does still cling to its original definition, but only outside of the democratic party in Rand Paul and a few others.

Communism vs capitalism however CAN be defined, and more importantly measured by metrics from the real world. For ex I suggest the most important metric should be % of GDP taxed by the state. How free is the economy?


Agreed. Well said.

joeyjojojunior says
mell says
They don't have to work and yet have plenty to eat (so many get fat).


This narrative has been proven to be bullshit so many times I can't even count, but yet it persists by folks like you and Strat. It's really sad.


Absolutely not. This narrative has been proven in countless studies. Please don't just spout stuff because you don't like the facts. People who earn more are also more active during the day and engage in more in physical activities - despite having less time from working all day.

http://healthland.time.com/2012/05/16/cdc-higher-income-and-education-levels-linked-to-better-health/
54   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 14, 9:50am  

mell says
Absolutely not. This narrative has been proven in countless studies


OK great--please post one.

mell says
People who earn more are also more active during the day and engage in more in physical activities - despite having less time from working all day.


Yep--what does that have to do with the topic at hand?
55   joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 14, 11:04am  

me123 says
Not a myth, if you would actually work during the day, instead of stealing money from your employer while posting on Patnet, you'd be surprised how much you could earn.

But since you're a "taker" (and Bernie supporter), versus being a "maker", that concept totally escapes you.


And if you could ever stay on a topic rather than trying to make everything personal, you might not be such a troll.

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