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A chilling study shows how hostile college students are toward free speech
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2017 Nov 19, 10:02pm 17,117 views 74 comments
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 12:16pm
anon_8f378 says
and it was taken care of with a post limit so he couldn't spam anymore. He's just lying about an effort to have him banned. That never happened.
TPB was only mentioned because he was posting dozens of threads about Trump each day.
and it was taken care of with a post limit so he couldn't spam anymore. He's just lying about an effort to have him banned. That never happened.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 12:22pm
anon_8f378 says
So why don't you offset all his post and start your own threads with all your TDS rants, Repub bashing, and anything else.
Very strange that you're bashing other posters that start threads yet you don't put in any effort to change the tone of the site and start other threads for discussion.
TPB was only mentioned because he was posting dozens of threads about Trump each day.
So why don't you offset all his post and start your own threads with all your TDS rants, Repub bashing, and anything else.
Very strange that you're bashing other posters that start threads yet you don't put in any effort to change the tone of the site and start other threads for discussion.
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Patrick
2017 Nov 20, 12:29pm
Patrick
2017 Nov 20, 12:29pm
justme says
It's not just any speech, only personal attacks on individual other users.
Patrick, how do you think it would work if college campuses had an anonymous "uncivil" button and it took only one anonymous student to be "offended: to hide and then 30 days later erase from history any speech deemed offensive?
It's not just any speech, only personal attacks on individual other users.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 12:33pm
anon_de8ba says
Some were hoping for a bit more substance than simply a spamalicous site with dozens of dumb threads started every day.
So why don't you offset all his post and start your own threads with all your TDS rants, Repub bashing, and anything else.
Very strange that you're bashing other posters that start threads yet you don't put in any effort to change the tone of the site and start other threads for discussion.
Some were hoping for a bit more substance than simply a spamalicous site with dozens of dumb threads started every day.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 12:56pm
Patrick says
Then who's been censoring the comments about Ironmans wife?
justme saysPatrick, how do you think it would work if college campuses had an anonymous "uncivil" button and it took only one anonymous student to be "offended: to hide and then 30 days later erase from history any speech deemed offensive?
It's not just any speech, only personal attacks on individual other users.
Then who's been censoring the comments about Ironmans wife?
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 1:40pm
anon_e5dc4 says
Or Ironman? He is no longer here so he should be fair game, right?
Then who's been censoring the comments about Ironmans wife?
Or Ironman? He is no longer here so he should be fair game, right?
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 1:42pm
anon_8f378 says
You can always log on with a regular screen name and start all the quality threads you want. Why won't you do that, but instead, sit here and complain about threads others start? Seems hypocritical.
anon_de8ba saysSo why don't you offset all his post and start your own threads with all your TDS rants, Repub bashing, and anything else.
Very strange that you're bashing other posters that start threads yet you don't put in any effort to change the tone of the site and start other threads for discussion.
Some were hoping for a bit more substance than simply a spamalicous site with dozens of dumb threads started every day.
You can always log on with a regular screen name and start all the quality threads you want. Why won't you do that, but instead, sit here and complain about threads others start? Seems hypocritical.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 1:57pm
anon_7c0c9 says
Goran is only a moderator of one topic, there are like 11 different ones that you can post under that he can't moderate. You have the freedom to start any thread topic you want, and he can't control it.
It looks like you'd rather complain then offer a solution.
anon_3f373 saysWhy won't you do that
Because making goran a moderator was a hugely horrible decision by Patrick. It was so bad that it was time for the reasonable people to give up. What's left is trolls. No more original threads and no more discussion. Just a big circle yank.
Goran is only a moderator of one topic, there are like 11 different ones that you can post under that he can't moderate. You have the freedom to start any thread topic you want, and he can't control it.
It looks like you'd rather complain then offer a solution.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 2:18pm
You asked for a solution so I gave you the solution. The trolls vehemently hate this but all of the long time users will support it. Letting people moderate their own threads is a meritocracy. Quality moderators who provide quality content will grow. Garbage posters will be ignored and they will have no way to troll. It's probably too good.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 2:25pm
anon_7c0c9 says
That was tried before. Your friend, Dan, would self moderate his threads by banning/ignoring the majority of active users here, so no one could comment on his threads. His threads became his own echo chamber of personal delusions.
Is that what you want?
You asked for a solution so I gave you the solution. The trolls vehemently hate this but all of the long time users will support it. Letting people moderate their own threads is a meritocracy.
That was tried before. Your friend, Dan, would self moderate his threads by banning/ignoring the majority of active users here, so no one could comment on his threads. His threads became his own echo chamber of personal delusions.
Is that what you want?
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 2:34pm
anon_7c0c9 says
It's clear as day to see this is the way forward anyone who says different is a goron.
You asked for a solution so I gave you the solution. The trolls vehemently hate this but all of the long time users will support it. Letting people moderate their own threads is a meritocracy. Quality moderators who provide quality content will grow. Garbage posters will be ignored and they will have no way to troll. It's probably too good.
It's clear as day to see this is the way forward anyone who says different is a goron.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 2:36pm
anon_7c0c9 says
How can it not be the same thing? You'll have moderators deleting posts by users who they don't like or don't have the same leaning they do. The thread will become an echo chamber of a "hive" mindset.
anon_eacc8 saysThat was tried before. Your friend, Dan, would self moderate his threads by banning/ignoring the majority of active users here, so no one could comment on his threads. His threads became his own echo chamber of personal delusions.
Not the same thing.
How can it not be the same thing? You'll have moderators deleting posts by users who they don't like or don't have the same leaning they do. The thread will become an echo chamber of a "hive" mindset.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 20, 2:37pm
anon_7c0c9 says
The site will die unless you stop complaining and add some quality content. Do you want to be part of the solution or continue to post as anon and be part of the problem?
The site is going to die unless the current situation changes.
The site will die unless you stop complaining and add some quality content. Do you want to be part of the solution or continue to post as anon and be part of the problem?
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Patrick
2017 Nov 20, 9:40pm
Patrick
2017 Nov 20, 9:40pm
mell says
Exactly. Goran seems to me to be one of the most polite and helpful people on the site. I don't get any impression of mean-spiritedness from his comments.
I'm glad he's here and hope he continues to moderate politics.
other visitors don't have the impression that Goran dominated any threads by any means due to ego issues.
Exactly. Goran seems to me to be one of the most polite and helpful people on the site. I don't get any impression of mean-spiritedness from his comments.
I'm glad he's here and hope he continues to moderate politics.
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Patrick
2017 Nov 20, 9:42pm
Patrick
2017 Nov 20, 9:42pm
errc says
It's not all of a sudden. It was just a growing realization that it's not possible to run a forum without moderators.
CIC did bother me, but I was trying to let anyone say anything. It was a failed experiment.
Now the only rule is to just be civil. It's not that hard.
Why is this all of a sudden important to you?
It didn’t seem to bother you when it was Sniper/Ironman CiC on here disrupting the forum 15+ hours a day
It's not all of a sudden. It was just a growing realization that it's not possible to run a forum without moderators.
CIC did bother me, but I was trying to let anyone say anything. It was a failed experiment.
Now the only rule is to just be civil. It's not that hard.
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Onvacation
2017 Nov 21, 8:46am
Onvacation
2017 Nov 21, 8:46am
anon_7c0c9 says
And yet here you are.
I will never be part of any solution that involves goran moderating
And yet here you are.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 21, 10:19am
Patrick says
While it seems like comments can easily be jailed, is there an easy way to release from jail a comment that has incorrectly or maliciously been sent there? Some people are making the argument that comments could be jailed because someone doesn't like the message, even if the comment is "civil"
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While it seems like comments can easily be jailed, is there an easy way to release from jail a comment that has incorrectly or maliciously been sent there? Some people are making the argument that comments could be jailed because someone doesn't like the message, even if the comment is "civil"
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anonymous
2017 Nov 21, 10:20am
Patrick says
The previous comment was trying to quote this.
justme saysPatrick, how do you think it would work if college campuses had an anonymous "uncivil" button and it took only one anonymous student to be "offended: to hide and then 30 days later erase from history any speech deemed offensive?
It's not just any speech, only personal attacks on individual other users.
The previous comment was trying to quote this.
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Onvacation
2017 Nov 21, 10:25am
Onvacation
2017 Nov 21, 10:25am
anon_961a0 says
Patrick.
anon_30870 says
Patrick will bust them outa jail soon enough.
Maybe we need a moderator for comment jail.
Patrick.
anon_30870 says
While it seems like comments can easily be jailed, is there an easy way to release from jail a comment that has incorrectly or maliciously been sent there? Some people are making the argument that comments could be jailed because someone doesn't like the message, even if the comment is "civil"
Patrick will bust them outa jail soon enough.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 21, 11:25am
Onvacation says
@Patrick maybe instead of sending comments directly to jail, they could first be flagged as uncivil, which your bring them to your (or some other moderator's) attention, after which the moderator could send the comment to jail or remove the flag. This way an accusation would be treated skeptically until it is reviewed by someone whose judgment can be trusted.
anon_30870 saysWhile it seems like comments can easily be jailed, is there an easy way to release from jail a comment that has incorrectly or maliciously been sent there? Some people are making the argument that comments could be jailed because someone doesn't like the message, even if the comment is "civil"
Patrick will bust them outa jail soon enough.
@Patrick maybe instead of sending comments directly to jail, they could first be flagged as uncivil, which your bring them to your (or some other moderator's) attention, after which the moderator could send the comment to jail or remove the flag. This way an accusation would be treated skeptically until it is reviewed by someone whose judgment can be trusted.
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Onvacation
2017 Nov 21, 12:32pm
Onvacation
2017 Nov 21, 12:32pm
anon_30870 says
Comment jail does a pretty good job.
Most comments in jail belong there. Some plead their innocence but still await judgement. If a user abuses the privelage their uncivil button is disabled.
Seems to work.
If you are arguing to take the uncivil button away from anons Im with you.
flagged as uncivil,
Comment jail does a pretty good job.
Most comments in jail belong there. Some plead their innocence but still await judgement. If a user abuses the privelage their uncivil button is disabled.
Seems to work.
If you are arguing to take the uncivil button away from anons Im with you.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 21, 12:35pm
Onvacation says
All anons should just change their user name to anon_some-128-bit-random-number
some-128-bit-random-number should contain many zeros, which are very hard to count in sequence.
If you are arguing to take the uncivil button away from anons Im with you.
All anons should just change their user name to anon_some-128-bit-random-number
some-128-bit-random-number should contain many zeros, which are very hard to count in sequence.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 21, 12:43pm
Onvacation says
Why would this comment belong in jail then?
14 jazz_music ignore (2) 2017 Nov 19, 12:19pm like (0) dislike (1) quote
Right wing are stupid hicktards!
THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS
anon_30870 saysflagged as uncivil,
Comment jail does a pretty good job.
Most comments in jail belong there. Some plead their innocence but still await judgement. If a user abuses the privelage their uncivil button is disabled.
Seems to work.
If you are arguing to take the uncivil button away from anons Im with you.
Why would this comment belong in jail then?
14 jazz_music ignore (2) 2017 Nov 19, 12:19pm like (0) dislike (1) quote
Right wing are stupid hicktards!
THIS IS NOT FAKE NEWS
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anonymous
2017 Nov 21, 1:19pm
Onvacation says
Anons don't have the ability to mark "uncivil", just like they can't start threads.
If you are arguing to take the uncivil button away from anons Im with you.
Anons don't have the ability to mark "uncivil", just like they can't start threads.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 21, 1:27pm
Onvacation says
I see many in comment jail that have nothing uncivil about them. I would bet that they were sent there by vengeance or retaliation.
Most comments in jail belong there.
I see many in comment jail that have nothing uncivil about them. I would bet that they were sent there by vengeance or retaliation.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 21, 2:08pm
anon_053a5 says
Yes and I don't believe the abuser has had their button taken away. Unless of course someone is lying about not being ironman.
Onvacation saysMost comments in jail belong there.
I see many in comment jail that have nothing uncivil about them. I would bet that they were sent there by vengeance or retaliation.
Yes and I don't believe the abuser has had their button taken away. Unless of course someone is lying about not being ironman.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2017 Nov 21, 2:34pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2017 Nov 21, 2:34pm
anon_86b6b says
State your proof or you are the one who is lying.
anon_053a5 saysOnvacation saysMost comments in jail belong there.
I see many in comment jail that have nothing uncivil about them. I would
bet that they were sent there by vengeance or retaliation.
Yes and I don't believe the abuser has had their button taken away. Unless of course someone is lying about not being ironman.
State your proof or you are the one who is lying.
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HowdyThere
2017 Nov 21, 6:45pm
Let's see if this gets jailed for incivility. Debt is NOT slavery! It's an obligation to pay back some money. Slavery is MUCH MUCH worse. I'm sure interviews with former slaves and former debtors would establish this.
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anonymous
2017 Nov 21, 7:05pm
779,572 comments by 11,594 users, 3 online now: Call It Crazy, Patrick
Who could have known?
Who could have known?
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Patrick
2017 Nov 21, 7:13pm
Patrick
2017 Nov 21, 7:13pm
The moderator of the topic will be able to free comments from jail, or I can do it.
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HowdyThere
2017 Nov 21, 7:19pm
Patrick, you smell of too much garlic. Please jail this comment for incivility, and then free it. PS I like garlic.
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FortWayne
2017 Nov 21, 7:19pm
FortWayne
2017 Nov 21, 7:19pm
That's kind of scary how little people appreciate rights they never had to fight for. So many countries are in bad shape, because they have no rights. And we Americans here take them for granted.
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