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RWSGFY says

not because "wonderful and superior Chinese EV eating their lunch".

Right, those are crappy ticking time bombs. If those start crossing our border I'm going to avoid them, stay out of parking garages, don't park near one etc.,. Unlike the Ford CEO who's driving one instead of a Ford.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

No. The German economy was destroyed when Biden and Nuland destroyed the
Nord Stream pipeline.

HeadSet says

mell says

Time to send them packing and replacing them with a Germany First government.

For some reason, the thought of a powerful, nationalist Germany scares other countries in Europe.

Lol. Just copied this from a comment I made a minute ago. https://youtu.be/fIO0DesXpdo?si=MPpgfa2lHHkFKRAq Norm Macdonald.

The_Deplorable says

No. The German economy was destroyed when Biden and Nuland destroyed the
Nord Stream pipeline.

Incorrect. That only accelerated the decline already underway.

Germany's main cause of decline is demographic and always will be.

RWSGFY says

This is why VW is closing plants and laying off workers, not because "wonderful and superior Chinese EV eating their lunch".

Probably true, but they shot themselves in the foot with the emission scam. They lost a shit load of money on that. Trust is a big thing when buying a car, so between that, lawsuits, and killing future demand it was over.

I haven't seen a VW on the road for a good 3-4 years. You know an automaker is doing decent if you see 3-4 of their models on a 1 hour trip or you see one at a grocery store or event parking lot. Lying to customers and government will not get you business.

Their emissions "scam" didn't affect the end users. In fact the buyers of these TDI Jettas were more happy with the power and fuel economy before the fix than after. Some even held out as long as possible to keep their cars in "pre-fix" condition.

RWSGFY says

Their emissions "scam" didn't affect the end users. In fact the buyers of these TDI Jettas were more happy with the power and fuel economy before the fix than after. Some even held out as long as possible to keep their cars in "pre-fix" condition.

That's fine and dandy, but it was negative press. People lost faith in the brand and new potential buyers stopped looking.

The lie didn't move me at all, as I was never in the market for a VW. But if it moves 5-10% of your sales, you're fucked. You can't blatantly lie in business. Some get away with it, most don't. The performance is a moot point. With greenies everywhere, lying about emissions likely lost you a good chunk of business. Again I don't care as someone that drives a V8 full sized SUV. A lot of people do care.

RWSGFY says

Their emissions "scam" didn't affect the end users. In fact the buyers of these TDI Jettas were more happy with the power and fuel economy before the fix than after. Some even held out as long as possible to keep their cars in "pre-fix" condition.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

RWSGFY says

Their emissions "scam" didn't affect the end users. In fact the buyers of these TDI Jettas were more happy with the power and fuel economy before the fix than after. Some even held out as long as possible to keep their cars in "pre-fix" condition.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

LOL.