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anon_dab5f says

And moving the embassy will serve what purpose? Be a benefit in what way? How many other countries have embassies in Jerusalem?.... I wonder why that might be...

Fear of Arab oil embargo.

If Arabs sold Parsley, Plastic Washers, and novelty X-ray Glasses instead of Oil, the embassies would have been in Jerusalem decades ago.

Sudan, Myanmar, Pakistan, so many countries where human rights are violated and so many murdered all the time. The UNHCR is only interested in Israel.

The Palestinians go to the peace process, are offered 95% of JEWdea and Samaria, then flounce in a huff and declare an intifada.

This is a wonderful gesture that's ALREADY BEEN APPROVED by the USA as punishment for walking away from negotiations.

For 2000 years, Jews said "Next Year in JEWrusalem." not "Next year in Tel Aviv" which didn't even exist until recently. ALL of Jerusalem will be Israeli. Historically, Arabs have closed the city on a whim when they were butthurt, shookdown Pilgrims, they simply can't be trusted with it's administration.

Israel's words are backed with nuclear weapons, so any talk of the Palestinians who bred like rabbits from a few hundred thousand into millions over a few generations moving in and voting is an absolute non-starter. We don't need another Lebanon. The Paleban moved there and ignited a Civil War.

I don't know why people are so opposed to this, it's been the law and approved by an overwhelming majority of both Dems and Republicans for 20+ years.

All Trump is doing is refusing to issue a National Security Waiver to postpone it yet again.

If it's so horrendous and unpopular, surely Congress will withdraw their own legislation.

anon_86154 says

If there is no purpose and no benefit, why are the Arabs and Muslims so upset? Please tell us.

What? There’s no purpose or benefit to it precisely because it angers so many countries. And if you don’t know why that is the case, then perhaps you need to educate yourself more about the region.

Oh it angers other countries, like the Muslim countries that terrorize us. Their terrorist activities angers us even more, so fuck them. We ain't giving in to their threats. Who the hell do these 7th century barbarians think they are, ordering us around.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

anon_dab5f says

And moving the embassy will serve what purpose? Be a benefit in what way? How many other countries have embassies in Jerusalem?.... I wonder why that might be...

Fear of Arab oil embargo.

Blackmail. Old fashioned blackmail. We don't want their oil anymore. Let them drown in it.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

I don't know why people are so opposed to this, it's been the law and approved by an overwhelming majority of both Dems and Republicans for 20+ years.

All Trump is doing is refusing to issue a National Security Waiver.

If it's so horrendous and unpopular, surely Congress will withdraw their own legislation.

Not to mention that virtually all of Israel's capital government buildings have been located in Western Jerusalem for decades.

Are all the Western ISIS lackeys who are all butt-hurt over moving the US embassy to Israel's capital really foresee a future where Israel uproots the Knesset and Supreme Court from West Jerusalem?

I don't really give a fuck either way.

It's done:
www.youtube.com/embed/zKbTjTUU6ZQ

Liberals right now.

Patrick says

Strategist says

Many of the leaders warned that unilateral U.S. steps on Jerusalem would derail a fledgling U.S.-led peace effort

The "peace process" in the Mideast has been going on my whole life. All process, no peace.

Peace in the Mideast is never going to happen.

My only quibble with that comment is, I wonder how much of the turmoil is due to US meddling and shit stirring.

WorkInProgress says

Patrick says

Strategist says

Many of the leaders warned that unilateral U.S. steps on Jerusalem would derail a fledgling U.S.-led peace effort

The "peace process" in the Mideast has been going on my whole life. All process, no peace.

Peace in the Mideast is never going to happen.

My only quibble with that comment is, I wonder how much of the turmoil is due to US meddling and shit stirring.

Why do you say that? What would be our motive for doing something like that?

"The President isn't Leading, he's disengaging from the world. Isolationist!"

*Pressures China on Korean Trade*
*Orders USN/USAF Exercises off Korea*
*Recognizes Israel Capital*

"The Presdient is Leading Too Much!!!"

Almost 25 years of not moving Embassy to the Capital:

Suddenly, Nothing Happened!

Announce moving the Embassy to the Capital:

But Something Might Happen!

www.youtube.com/embed/hz-HKmPzEQ0

Is Trump going to build an embassy there, and use that for leverage to give half of Jerusalem to the Palestinians later? The only way he would have time to complete such a plan is if they get to building and build quickly. Otherwise, he might as well let Jared go skiing for the 3 yrs. He'd have as much luck negotiating peace from Aspen's slopes as anywhere else.

Where are Caesar and the Roman Legionnaires when we need them most?

Al Qaeda condemns Trump's Jerusalem move, calls for action - Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/...trump.../al-qaeda-condemns-trumps-jerusalem-move-calls-...
2 hours ago - Islamist militant group Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) has condemned the U.S. decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital and called on militants to close ranks to support Palestinians.

Hamas Calls for Intifada as Trump's Jerusalem Move Stirs Protest ...
https://www.bloomberg.com/.../hamas-leader-urges-new-intifida-against-israel-over-je...
9 hours ago - The Gaza Strip's militant Hamas rulers called for a new uprising against President Donald Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital, while protesters burned American flags and pictures of the U.S. leader in demonstrations across the West Bank. “We demand, call and will launch an intifada in the ...

Iran 'will not tolerate' Trump Jerusalem 'violation': Rouhani - Times of ...
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/iran-will.../61950463.cms 1 day ago - TEHRAN: Iranian President Hassan Rouhani blasted his US counterpart Donald Trump's plan to recognise Jerusalem as the Israeli capital today, saying it would not be tolerated. Rouhani also spoke with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan by phone, describing Trump's announcement as "wrong, ...

Turkey to Trump: Calling Jerusalem the Israeli capital will draw Muslim ...
https://www.cnbc.com/.../turkey-to-trump-calling-jerusalem-the-israeli-capital-will-dra...
2 days ago - The United States will anger Muslim countries if it recognizes Israel's capital city as Jerusalem, Turkey's foreign minister warned Tuesday. Mevlut Cavusoglu said a decision by U.S. President Donald Trump to recognize Jerusalem, rather than Tel Aviv, as the Israeli capital could bring chaos to the region.

Ha ha ha.
Looks like nothing has changed.

http://www.jerusalemonline.com/news/in-israel/local/israeli-mayor-decides-to-name-park-after-trump-33157
Israeli City to Name Giant Park After U.S President Trump

Booger says

Israeli City to Name Giant Park After U.S President Trump

Oh boy, the Arab terrorists are gonna get upset. Lets hope they kill each other in their wild frenzy.

Only 128 countries oppose. Just another highlight of the trump legacy. It will be up there with the Iraq war and “WMD.”

Btw the supposed “blue print” of Iraqi WMD was taken from the movie Resident Evil and no one noticed because they were all got paid to vote yes.

Guatemala says it is moving embassy in Israel to Jerusalem!

https://apnews.com/24f4250a24a0470f97df3da8eecb8410/Guatemala-says-it-is-moving-embassy-in-Israel-to-Jerusalem?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

BorderPatrol says

Only 128 countries oppose. Just another highlight of the trump legacy. It will be up there with the Iraq war and “WMD.”

Of the 128 countries, 57 are Islamic countries. They don't count. Another 50 probably need the Arab oil. They don't count.

Booger says

Guatemala says it is moving embassy in Israel to Jerusalem!

Ha ha ha. It starts with a trickle.
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Supporting Palestine is supporting terrorists. Never reward terrorists be giving them what they want. Always punish them by taking more of what they value the most.
Zero tolerance for terrorism is the only way.

Palestine was never a city-state. It was a never a nation, or even a culture. The people who claim to be "Palestinians" originated from a group of Slaves during the Ottoman Empire and were made up of arabs, bedouins, and other cultures enslaved by the Ottomans during the time.

"Free Palestine" is basically an anti-zionist jew hating lefitst movement built upon a fairy tale.

If you watch/read interviews with butthurt Paleban from 1967, they all moan about the humilation to themselves as "Arabs" or "Jordanians". Almost none of them call themselves Palestinians, except for a handful of Soviet Trained VIPs. "Ordinary" former Arab Serfs of the Ottomans seem to have no idea about any "Palestine".

Also, if it's all about the "Occupation" of Jewdea, how come there was no peace in 1947-1966 with Israel? How come the Palestinians never rose up against Egypt, that annexed Gaza, or Jordan, which annexed the "West Bank". The "Palestinians" didn't seem interested in fighting against annexation by Egypt and Jordan. In fact, the "Palestinian" Flag is just the Jordanian flag with a star on it.

Anyway, have some Jews dancing the Trumpahora

Squad goals! ????? pic.twitter.com/W0D1OPiylv— Mia? (@missmagamia) December 27, 2017

TwoScoopsPlissken says

If you watch/read interviews with butthurt Paleban from 1967, they all moan about the humilation to themselves as "Arabs" or "Jordanians". Almost none of them call themselves Palestinians, except for a handful of Soviet Trained VIPs. "Ordinary" former Arab Serfs of the Ottomans seem to have no idea about any "Palestine".

Also, if it's all about the "Occupation" of Jewdea, how come there was no peace in 1947-1966 with Israel? How come the Palestinians never rose up against Egypt, that annexed Gaza, or Jordan, which annexed the "West Bank". The "Palestinians" didn't seem interested in fighting against annexation by Egypt and Jordan. In fact, the "Palestinian" Flag is just the Jordanian flag with a star on it.

There is something about Muslims that puzzles me . Muslims can do anything to other Muslims and they don't bother to complain. They just continue to kill each other as usual. The moment an infidel does some something to a Muslim the whole Islamic world wants blood, Jihad, and revenge. This is especially true when it comes to Jews and the Christian West.
If Islam is "peaceful" why do we get so much violence from it?

Strategist says

BorderPatrol says

Only 128 countries oppose. Just another highlight of the trump legacy. It will be up there with the Iraq war and “WMD.”

Of the 128 countries, 57 are Islamic countries. They don't count. Another 50 probably need the Arab oil. They don't count.

Booger says

Guatemala says it is moving embassy in Israel to Jerusalem!

Ha ha ha. It starts with a trickle.
-----
Supporting Palestine is supporting terrorists. Never reward terrorists be giving them what they want. Always punish them by taking more of what they value the most.
Zero tolerance for terrorism is the only way.

You have to laugh. “Only 128 countries.” What? Why don’t you list all those major countries who supported the US? It won’t take long.

anon_d0b1e says

Strategist says

BorderPatrol says

Only 128 countries oppose. Just another highlight of the trump legacy. It will be up there with the Iraq war and “WMD.”

Of the 128 countries, 57 are Islamic countries. They don't count. Another 50 probably need the Arab oil. They don't count.

Booger says

Guatemala says it is moving embassy in Israel to Jerusalem!

Ha ha ha. It starts with a trickle.
-----
Supporting Palestine is supporting terrorists. Never reward terrorists be giving them what they want. Always punish them by taking more of what they value the most.
Zero tolerance for terrorism is the only way.

You have to laugh. “Only 128 countries.” What? Why don’t you list all t...

When push comes to shove it's the USA who will be supported, because the world needs the USA, not a barbaric loser like some Islamic country.

anon_d0b1e says

You have to laugh. “Only 128 countries.” What? Why don’t you list all those major countries who supported the US? It won’t take long.

Do those countries run entirely on Hydroelectric and Solar? Or do they need a certain something to keep things running, but don't have a World Deployable Military Force to make sure they get it? Especially the poorer ones, whose navy consists of a WW2 PT Boat with a range of 200 miles and a single rusty .50 MG for which the ammo was sold by unpaid sailors long ago? Look out, here comes the Liberian Navy to launch a punitive counter strike on pirates who took on of "their" flagged tankers. Ran out of gas not halfway into the Gulf of Benin.

Besides, it's European Realpolitik for them to stake out positions different than the US. When the rotary device meets the excrement, however, they usually behave differently in fact.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

anon_d0b1e says

You have to laugh. “Only 128 countries.” What? Why don’t you list all those major countries who supported the US? It won’t take long.

Do those countries run entirely on Hydroelectric and Solar? Or do they need a certain something to keep things running, but don't have a World Deployable Military Force to make sure they get it?

Besides, it's European Realpolitik for them to stake out positions different than the US.

Yeah, or maybe they just disagree with the decision.

Strategist says

When push comes to shove it's the USA who will be supported, because the world needs the USA, not a barbaric loser like some Islamic country.

Apparently not.

anon_7e88c says

Yeah, or maybe they just disagree with the decision.

They disagree because it's a good move. Has the EU made any good moves lately? AFAIK, they've decided to give up their sovereignty to Islamic barbarians who are currently raping and pillaging them for all of their worth. It's a literal butt fucking. I could not care less what some Foo Foo EU leftard thinks. "Free Palestine" is based on a big leftist lie.

anon_7e88c says

Yeah, or maybe they just disagree with the decision.

They are all just good wonderful people trying to do their best for the Children of the World, and their expense accounts at the UN are so honest. All the aid goes to the babies. They only buy ramen noodles while in Manhattan to make sure as much money goes to the village children as possible.

Feed, the Worrrllllllldd
Let them know its Christmastime

Shessh, Bob Geldof.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

They are all just good wonderful people trying to do their best for the Children of the World, and their expense accounts at the UN are so honest. All the aid goes to the babies. They only buy ramen noodles while in Manhattan to make sure as much money goes to the village children as possible.

Yes, of course you are correct. Everyone in the UN is corrupt. Only our hallowed leader Mr. Trump remains untarnished. He is the one beacon of truth and righteousness in a sea of foulness.

anon_7e88c says

Strategist says

When push comes to shove it's the USA who will be supported, because the world needs the USA, not a barbaric loser like some Islamic country.

Apparently not.

Push has not come to shove yet.
Take the example of India, a major importer of oil from the Middle East, which voted against the US. The USA has formed a strategic alliance with India as a counter balance to China. Israel too has formed some kind of an alliance with India. India has it's own problems with Islamic terrorists just like we do, maybe even more. I doubt if India has any love for the Islamic hordes. Her future lies with successful democracies like ours.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/27/future-train-station-at-western-wall-could-be-named-after-trump.html Israel will literally have a Trump train

HappyGilmore says

TwoScoopsPlissken says

They are all just good wonderful people trying to do their best for the Children of the World, and their expense accounts at the UN are so honest. All the aid goes to the babies. They only buy ramen noodles while in Manhattan to make sure as much money goes to the village children as possible.

Yes, of course you are correct. Everyone in the UN is corrupt. Only our hallowed leader Mr. Trump remains untarnished. He is the one beacon of truth and righteousness in a sea of foulness.

WOW!!!!

You got one right for once!

PEACEandGOODWILL says

Yes, of course you are correct. Everyone in the UN is corrupt. Only our hallowed leader Mr. Trump remains untarnished. He is the one beacon of truth and righteousness in a sea of foulness.

WOW!!!!

You got one right for once!

Trump isn't and cannot be corrupt. Multi billionaires don't need bribes. Trump wants fame and power, and the best way to get that is to be a very successful President.
He will succeed.

anon_c6dfa says

Israel will literally have a Trump train

And this train will take you to a wall!!!

Strategist says

Multi billionaires don't need bribes

They also don't need tax cuts, but that doesn't stop them from paying off politicians to get them.

The motive is greed, not need.

HappyGilmore says

Strategist says

Multi billionaires don't need bribes

They also don't need tax cuts, but that doesn't stop them from paying off politicians to get them.

The motive is greed, not need.

OK. Lets get this straight. I have an utter contempt and dislike for greedy and selfish people regardless of their wealth. I just don't trust them. I'm sure some multi billionaires fall under that category, but most just want power. Some like Trump probably want fame, power, and an ego boost. Others like Buffet and Gates simply want a better world and have committed to giving away almost all their wealth to charity.
Most people who support lower taxes are average people, who do so, because they genuinely believe it is better for the economy. When I was in college I fully supported Reagan's tax plan and economic policies, even though I was poor. In hindsight, I see I made the right decisions.