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NuttBoxer
2023 Jun 3, 8:36am
NuttBoxer
2023 Jun 3, 8:36am
Pistol brace law is dead, gonna see about getting my order updated:
https://zerohedge.com/political/federal-judge-blocks-atf-pistol-brace-rule-major-gun-group
https://zerohedge.com/political/federal-judge-blocks-atf-pistol-brace-rule-major-gun-group
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RWSGFY
2023 Jun 17, 1:44pm
RWSGFY
2023 Jun 17, 1:44pm
Patrick says
... and in CA there will be a mandatory 10 day waiting period before fucking a new woman.
... and in CA there will be a mandatory 10 day waiting period before fucking a new woman.
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Patrick
2023 Jun 26, 3:45pm
Patrick
2023 Jun 26, 3:45pm
https://jpfo.org/articles-2023/hispanics-and-second-amendment.htm
...in my experience in Florida, and as I travel and speak to many, I am finding Hispanics from all socioeconomic backgrounds increasingly demonstrating a greater appreciation for traditional American values, including respect for the U.S. Constitution and, in particular, the Second Amendment.
The Number of Hispanic Gun Owners in America is Growing The National Shooting Sports Foundation, the trade group representing firearms manufacturers, commissioned a retailer survey to gauge the interest of Hispanics in America in exercising their lawful right to keep and bear arms. The survey determined that law-abiding Hispanic-Americans purchased firearms in 2020 at a 49% higher rate than they did in 2019. This uptick in interest seemed to be reflected in the 2020 presidential election, as the former president got 10% more of the Hispanic vote than he did in 2016.
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NuttBoxer
2023 Jul 3, 8:33am
NuttBoxer
2023 Jul 3, 8:33am
Regardless of how it happens, the fact is before the pharma industry, mass shootings were non-existent.
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RWSGFY
2023 Jul 7, 1:12pm
RWSGFY
2023 Jul 7, 1:12pm
NuttBoxer says
Stephanus Andries Johannes Swart (21 July 1888 – 6 May 1927) was a South African farmer and one of the first spree killers who killed at least 8 people and wounded 3 others in Charlestown, South Africa on 6 May 1927, before killing himself.
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The Tsuyama massacre (津山事件, Tsuyama jiken) was a revenge spree killing that occurred on the night of 21 May 1938 in the rural village of Kamo close to Tsuyama in Okayama, Empire of Japan.
Mutsuo Toi (都井 睦雄, Toi Mutsuo), a 21-year-old man, killed 30 people, including his grandmother, with a Browning shotgun, katana, and axe, and seriously injured three others before killing himself with the shotgun. It is the deadliest shooting by a lone gunman in Japanese history.
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The Bremen school shooting was a school shooting that occurred on 20 June 1913 at St Mary's Catholic School (St-Marien-Schule) in Walle, a quarter of Bremen, Germany. The gunman, 29-year-old unemployed teacher Heinz Schmidt from Sülze, indiscriminately shot at students and teachers, killing five girls and wounding more than 20 other people before being subdued by school staff. He was never tried for the crime and sent directly to an asylum where he died in 1932.
Regardless of how it happens, the fact is before the pharma industry, mass shootings were non-existent.
Stephanus Andries Johannes Swart (21 July 1888 – 6 May 1927) was a South African farmer and one of the first spree killers who killed at least 8 people and wounded 3 others in Charlestown, South Africa on 6 May 1927, before killing himself.
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The Tsuyama massacre (津山事件, Tsuyama jiken) was a revenge spree killing that occurred on the night of 21 May 1938 in the rural village of Kamo close to Tsuyama in Okayama, Empire of Japan.
Mutsuo Toi (都井 睦雄, Toi Mutsuo), a 21-year-old man, killed 30 people, including his grandmother, with a Browning shotgun, katana, and axe, and seriously injured three others before killing himself with the shotgun. It is the deadliest shooting by a lone gunman in Japanese history.
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The Bremen school shooting was a school shooting that occurred on 20 June 1913 at St Mary's Catholic School (St-Marien-Schule) in Walle, a quarter of Bremen, Germany. The gunman, 29-year-old unemployed teacher Heinz Schmidt from Sülze, indiscriminately shot at students and teachers, killing five girls and wounding more than 20 other people before being subdued by school staff. He was never tried for the crime and sent directly to an asylum where he died in 1932.
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NuttBoxer
2023 Jul 10, 9:35am
NuttBoxer
2023 Jul 10, 9:35am
So two incidents, and sounds like one was technically not a "shooting spree". How many this past year? How many in the past 10 years? Now compare with the previous 200 years, or back to whenever a gun capable of firing more than one round without reload was invented.
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Patrick
2023 Jul 10, 3:43pm
Patrick
2023 Jul 10, 3:43pm
https://jpfo.org/articles-2023/armed-citizens-validation.htm
... The first perpetrator died of the wounds he forced Shockey to inflict. The second is alive at this writing at the hospital, facing a Felony Murder charge since he participated in a felony that led to the death of a human being, in this case his partner-in-crime.
Most cops have seen so much grief inflicted on decent people by violent scum that they are in the forefront of the cheering section when the victim turns the tables on the perpetrator. The sheriff of the county in which the shooting took place, Ben Johnson, offered his support to Robert Shockey according to the Orlando Sentinel.
A spokesman for the Sheriff’s Department, Gary Davidson, said of Shockey, “He is going to get the good citizenship award.”
Yes, brothers and sisters, sometimes there are happy endings on the criminal justice side of things.
The anti-gun crowd weighed in immediately. “Arthur Hayhoe, the executive director of the Florida Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, said this case is ‘a tough call’ for a group that favors strict gun laws,” the Sentinel reported. “He said he won’t ‘second-guess’ a parent defending his son, but Hayhoe is troubled by the second shooting.”
Okay, folks, take a deep breath.
“It’s still a shooting of an unarmed person, and that is always troubling,” Hayhoe then told reporters.
What?
Unsportsmanlike Self Defense?
Darius Bennett, who was damn lucky to survive the cyclone of lethality that he and his accomplice James Franklin Wince brought to the Blockbuster Video store that day, was reaching for a rifle after threatening to commit murder at the time he was shot.
Would Hayhoe and his sister under-the-skin Sarah Brady have had the innocent victim wait until the gun was in the criminal’s hand? Or is waiting until the criminal’s finger is on the trigger the “bright line” test for the anti-gunners? Or should the innocent victim just let himself be shot once or twice to make sure the lawless armed criminal really meant to harm him?
Sorry, America, but it’s clear Arthur Hayhoe and the group he speaks for, Florida Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, just don’t have the first clue.
If any of our people get into a battle of wits with Arthur Hayhoe, they’ll obviously be accused of, “shooting of an unarmed person.”
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zzyzzx
2023 Jul 14, 10:33am
zzyzzx
2023 Jul 14, 10:33am
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/homicides-soar-96-washington-state-after-passage-gun-restrictions
Homicides Soar 96% In Washington State After Passage Of Gun Restrictions
Homicides Soar 96% In Washington State After Passage Of Gun Restrictions
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HeadSet
2023 Jul 22, 11:12am
HeadSet
2023 Jul 22, 11:12am
Too bad that rifle does not have a hair trigger when someone bumps the table.
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NuttBoxer
2023 Jul 22, 5:01pm
NuttBoxer
2023 Jul 22, 5:01pm
From that angle how do we know for sure it's not pointing past him? and what is in the room, which direction can it point safely?
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richwicks
2023 Jul 22, 11:17pm
richwicks
2023 Jul 22, 11:17pm
NuttBoxer says
It points in the direction where nobody can walk in front of.
It's a simple rule, you never point a gun at anything you're not willing to put a bullet in, and you always assume it's loaded regardless of whether you've cleared it or not, and it can fire at any moment for no reason at all.
You follow those rules, and you won't be an Alec Baldwin and even if you follow all those rules, assume you're going to make a mistake at some point.
Be paranoid, always assume you've made a mistake. When you're working with dangerous shit, have OCD. Just clear your gun, and didn't think you did it properly? Clear it again. One mistake out of 1000's of repetitions, and you can kill somebody.
In the picture, the asshole is on the wrong side of the table, and it shouldn't be possible to be in front of the table. It might seem overly cautious, until you put a bullet into somebody by accident. Gun safety is very important, and you need to take it seriously no matter how confident you are that "nothing can go wrong". I don't care how certain you are that a gun is unloaded, don't point it at somebody as a "joke".
"A gun is always loaded", you need that minimal mindset. Unless you're trying to shoot somebody, then you might want to think the gun is always empty, conserve bullets. I've not been in that situation.
I used to hang glide. One thing that was drilled into me was a "hang check". This is to verify you've hooked into the glider. I got into the habit, any doubt, I checked, and I did that 100's of times, until one time, I found out I was NOT hooked in. Certain I was, but I wasn't. I was just on a training hill, at worst I would have been injured, little chance of being killed, but that scared me. I've gone off mountains, if it was a mountain then, I would have been killed. Completely certain I was hooked in. More than 1/2 the deaths in hang gliding is carelessness. The other half is panic in a collapse of the glider, and flying in severe weather where you asphyxiate being pulled up way too high. See an anvil cloud? Go home.
People get killed by guns by accident in the same way. You might handle the thing a hundred times without a problem, but eventually, you're going to make a mistake, and when you do, be damned certain nobody will be hurt. You will eventually make a mistake.
From that angle how do we know for sure it's not pointing past him? and what is in the room, which direction can it point safely?
It points in the direction where nobody can walk in front of.
It's a simple rule, you never point a gun at anything you're not willing to put a bullet in, and you always assume it's loaded regardless of whether you've cleared it or not, and it can fire at any moment for no reason at all.
You follow those rules, and you won't be an Alec Baldwin and even if you follow all those rules, assume you're going to make a mistake at some point.
Be paranoid, always assume you've made a mistake. When you're working with dangerous shit, have OCD. Just clear your gun, and didn't think you did it properly? Clear it again. One mistake out of 1000's of repetitions, and you can kill somebody.
In the picture, the asshole is on the wrong side of the table, and it shouldn't be possible to be in front of the table. It might seem overly cautious, until you put a bullet into somebody by accident. Gun safety is very important, and you need to take it seriously no matter how confident you are that "nothing can go wrong". I don't care how certain you are that a gun is unloaded, don't point it at somebody as a "joke".
"A gun is always loaded", you need that minimal mindset. Unless you're trying to shoot somebody, then you might want to think the gun is always empty, conserve bullets. I've not been in that situation.
I used to hang glide. One thing that was drilled into me was a "hang check". This is to verify you've hooked into the glider. I got into the habit, any doubt, I checked, and I did that 100's of times, until one time, I found out I was NOT hooked in. Certain I was, but I wasn't. I was just on a training hill, at worst I would have been injured, little chance of being killed, but that scared me. I've gone off mountains, if it was a mountain then, I would have been killed. Completely certain I was hooked in. More than 1/2 the deaths in hang gliding is carelessness. The other half is panic in a collapse of the glider, and flying in severe weather where you asphyxiate being pulled up way too high. See an anvil cloud? Go home.
People get killed by guns by accident in the same way. You might handle the thing a hundred times without a problem, but eventually, you're going to make a mistake, and when you do, be damned certain nobody will be hurt. You will eventually make a mistake.
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RWSGFY
2023 Jul 23, 10:43am
RWSGFY
2023 Jul 23, 10:43am
NuttBoxer says
Moving the goaloposts, are we? No, not "just two shooting", rather just two examples. Which is 2x as much as needed to
disprove a point. Add to this much smaller population overall
and much sketchier reporting (as in less shit gets known to the world outside of the town/province/country) and the things don't look much different at all.
So two incidents, and sounds like one was technically not a "shooting spree". How many this past year? How many in the past 10 years? Now compare with the previous 200 years, or back to whenever a gun capable of firing more than one round without reload was invented.
Moving the goaloposts, are we? No, not "just two shooting", rather just two examples. Which is 2x as much as needed to
disprove a point. Add to this much smaller population overall
and much sketchier reporting (as in less shit gets known to the world outside of the town/province/country) and the things don't look much different at all.
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NuttBoxer
2023 Jul 23, 6:04pm
NuttBoxer
2023 Jul 23, 6:04pm
RWSGFY says
So you wish to disprove that shooting sprees are related to narcotics? I prefer the term narcotics, because the legality of a lab created substance has shit to do with whether it's safe to consume or not. And one example(as I mentioned other one was done with melee weapons), disproves it? Have you considered you may be getting lost in the weeds..?
Moving the goaloposts, are we? No, not "just two shooting", rather just two examples. Which is 2x as much as needed to
disprove a point.
So you wish to disprove that shooting sprees are related to narcotics? I prefer the term narcotics, because the legality of a lab created substance has shit to do with whether it's safe to consume or not. And one example(as I mentioned other one was done with melee weapons), disproves it? Have you considered you may be getting lost in the weeds..?
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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Couple things to note in there:
1. The specific mention of a militia being the reason for the need to bear arms.
2. The 2nd Amendment never mentions the word gun at all.
So, what exactly is the definition of "arms"?
In 1755 Dr. Johnson’s Dictionary of the English Language was first published. It defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.”
Weapons of offence would seem to include pretty much anything and everything, from knives to nuclear weapons. The US has already seen fit to ban some weapons of offence so the 2nd Amendment clearly has not been interpreted strictly as meaning that the US cannot ban all "arms". Therefore, the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee citizens the right to own whatever weapons they choose.
So it then becomes a question of which weapons should be banned, which should be strictly regulated, and which should be lightly regulated or not at all. Like anything else, we should weigh an individual's right with society's right. When looked at in that manner, it becomes very difficult to justify why fully automatic or semi automatic rifles should be allowed. What purpose do they serve an individual? And why would that purpose outweigh the extreme damage those weapons have cased society??
Patrick thinks the Chamber of Commerce is the worst organization, and he may be correct, but the NRA is not far behind.