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2nd Amendment Discussion


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2018 Feb 17, 11:51am   260,172 views  1,326 comments

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With all the talk about the school shootings, let's take a look at what the 2nd Amendment actually says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Couple things to note in there:

1. The specific mention of a militia being the reason for the need to bear arms.
2. The 2nd Amendment never mentions the word gun at all.

So, what exactly is the definition of "arms"?

In 1755 Dr. Johnson’s Dictionary of the English Language was first published. It defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.”

Weapons of offence would seem to include pretty much anything and everything, from knives to nuclear weapons. The US has already seen fit to ban some weapons of offence so the 2nd Amendment clearly has not been interpreted strictly as meaning that the US cannot ban all "arms". Therefore, the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee citizens the right to own whatever weapons they choose.

So it then becomes a question of which weapons should be banned, which should be strictly regulated, and which should be lightly regulated or not at all. Like anything else, we should weigh an individual's right with society's right. When looked at in that manner, it becomes very difficult to justify why fully automatic or semi automatic rifles should be allowed. What purpose do they serve an individual? And why would that purpose outweigh the extreme damage those weapons have cased society??

Patrick thinks the Chamber of Commerce is the worst organization, and he may be correct, but the NRA is not far behind.



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1102   Patrick   2023 Oct 21, 3:25pm  

https://crimeresearch.org/2022/11/concealed-carry-permit-holders-across-the-united-states-2021-2/





8.5% of American adults have permits. Outside of the restrictive states of California and New York, about 10.2% of adults have a permit.


I didn't know it was that high.
1103   Bd6r   2023 Oct 21, 4:46pm  

After I buy 3-4 more long guns, I THINK I will be done with my firearms purchases. Not sure though as I might find something else interesting…last thing was a Swedish Mauser which appears to be better engineered than anything made in 21st century despite being made 110 years ago.
God Bless Texas which makes firearms and ammo purchases easy.
1104   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Oct 21, 7:09pm  

Patrick says

https://crimeresearch.org/2022/11/concealed-carry-permit-holders-across-the-united-states-2021-2/






8.5% of American adults have permits. Outside of the restrictive states of California and New York, about 10.2% of adults have a permit.


I didn't know it was that high.


in many states you no longer need a permit. such is case here, everyone carrie’s concealed. thanks to the people fighting for our rights
1105   Bd6r   2023 Oct 21, 8:22pm  

I have TX permit, useful even though we technically don’t need one. A few months ago was stopped for speeding, when I produced LTC permit, tune changed and firearms were discussed, and I got away with a warning.
1106   Onvacation   2023 Oct 21, 8:38pm  

Eric Holder says

And WTF is with the crooked magazine?

Reminds me of another conspiracy theorist who was seeing crooked arms.
1107   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2023 Oct 22, 2:46am  

Been seeing online ads for this lately.

Any guess when these will be banned too?

https://byrna.com/collections/byrna-non-lethal-guns
1108   Patrick   2023 Oct 24, 11:21am  

https://notthebee.com/article/media-shocked-to-learn-that-theres-such-a-thing-as-responsible-gun-ownerships-after-jewish-americans-flock-to-gun-stores-and-synagogues-begin-offering-firearm-safety-training


The media is having a hard one today trying to decide if lots of armed Jews is a good or bad thing 😂

Would you look at that?

The media has finally conceded that there might be a legit reason to own firearms for self-defense.
1111   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 26, 4:09am  

Onvacation says

Eric Holder says


And WTF is with the crooked magazine?

Reminds me of another conspiracy theorist who was seeing crooked arms.


Have YOU seen an AK before?
1115   RWSGFY   2023 Oct 26, 9:11pm  

Patrick says

Seems to be true:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/israeli-couple-killed-7-hamas-militants-to-save-their-children/articleshow/104324192.cms


Their surnames suggest their ancestors were from the town of Berdychiv in Western Ukraine.
1116   NuttBoxer   2023 Oct 27, 7:26am  

Maine shooter heard voices, just like many shooters before him. What's the first question you always ask... What meds were they on?
1117   Onvacation   2023 Oct 27, 8:19am  

RWSGFY says

Have YOU seen an AK before?

Both live and in poorly drawn cartoons.
1123   HeadSet   2023 Nov 1, 12:55pm  

The_Deplorable says





Because half the population is in on the plunder.
1124   Bd6r   2023 Nov 1, 6:21pm  

Not much ammunition, some of my neighbors apparently have more than the whole Jewish population of Berlin!!!

Patrick says




1126   AD   2023 Nov 1, 8:42pm  

The_Deplorable says






"Following the Rodney King verdict, Los Angeles police were unable to provide protection to many affected areas due to the overwhelming scale of the riots, instead opting to set up a defensive perimeter around the wealthier and typically white Beverly Hills and West Hollywood, cutting off Koreatown and abandoning other minority and low-income communities, leaving the Koreatown community to fend for themselves."

source: https://www.kcet.org/people/ryan-reft
1127   AD   2023 Nov 1, 9:04pm  

.

The hero of the kibbutz Kissufim ... good lesson on self defense when the police and military are not there to protect you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddEw8lY4IPs

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1138   BeneTiberCato   2023 Nov 14, 5:06am  

Patrick says





As a veteran this disturbs my practical sense of field discipline. If you think you need an AR-15 on your person while shopping, then why are you wearing sandals? If there be shooting, there be broken glass, there be rolling around on the ground in the gravel and grit. You would need more than a sports bra. There is something very weird about Israel, some kind of massive delusion field. When women like this wear rifles in a shopping mall, it's a fashion statement.
1139   BeneTiberCato   2023 Nov 14, 5:08am  

Patrick says





I saw a similar trend at the weapons range last week. Many women, who I was pretty sure were Jews, practicing. I thought it was great.
1140   NuttBoxer   2023 Nov 14, 6:27am  

The more American's with guns, the better, don't give a shit why, or what their ethnicity is, just more, more, more!
1141   Onvacation   2023 Nov 14, 7:32am  

BeneTiberCato says

When women like this wear rifles in a shopping mall, it's a fashion statement.

Sexy!

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