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2nd Amendment Discussion


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2018 Feb 17, 11:51am   257,538 views  1,312 comments

by CajunSteve   ➕follow (1)   💰tip   ignore  

With all the talk about the school shootings, let's take a look at what the 2nd Amendment actually says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Couple things to note in there:

1. The specific mention of a militia being the reason for the need to bear arms.
2. The 2nd Amendment never mentions the word gun at all.

So, what exactly is the definition of "arms"?

In 1755 Dr. Johnson’s Dictionary of the English Language was first published. It defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.”

Weapons of offence would seem to include pretty much anything and everything, from knives to nuclear weapons. The US has already seen fit to ban some weapons of offence so the 2nd Amendment clearly has not been interpreted strictly as meaning that the US cannot ban all "arms". Therefore, the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee citizens the right to own whatever weapons they choose.

So it then becomes a question of which weapons should be banned, which should be strictly regulated, and which should be lightly regulated or not at all. Like anything else, we should weigh an individual's right with society's right. When looked at in that manner, it becomes very difficult to justify why fully automatic or semi automatic rifles should be allowed. What purpose do they serve an individual? And why would that purpose outweigh the extreme damage those weapons have cased society??

Patrick thinks the Chamber of Commerce is the worst organization, and he may be correct, but the NRA is not far behind.



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1279   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2024 Apr 23, 12:26pm  

A robotic dog equipped with a flamethrower capable of projecting fire up to 30 feet is now available for purchase in the US.

1282   HeadSet   2024 Apr 26, 5:47pm  

Patrick says





Actually, those are both semi-auto rifles. Same rate of fire and lethality. One does have a bigger magazine, thugh.
1284   RWSGFY   2024 Apr 27, 2:14pm  

HeadSet says

Patrick says






Actually, those are both semi-auto rifles. Same rate of fire and lethality. One does have a bigger magazine, thugh.


Sure about the top one? That bolt handle....
1286   HeadSet   2024 Apr 28, 6:51pm  

RWSGFY says

HeadSet says


Patrick says







Actually, those are both semi-auto rifles. Same rate of fire and lethality. One does have a bigger magazine, thugh.



Sure about the top one? That bolt handle....

Yeah, your right. I did not see the bolt and thought it was an M1.
1292   stereotomy   2024 May 4, 8:05pm  

Rimfire ammo is a bitch to reload.
1293   HeadSet   2024 May 5, 6:58am  

stereotomy says

Rimfire ammo is a bitch to reload.

The only rimfire I remember is .22. Those were so cheap anyway there was no point in reloading even if you could.
1294   GNL   2024 May 5, 8:15am  

HeadSet says

stereotomy says


Rimfire ammo is a bitch to reload.

The only rimfire I remember is .22. Those were so cheap anyway there was no point in reloading even if you could.

Isn’t 17 HMR rim fire?
1295   HeadSet   2024 May 5, 10:52am  

GNL says

Isn’t 17 HMR rim fire?

I have no idea what that is. .22 was poor person ammo good for plinking and small game, and rimfire was just a way to keep the round cheap to manufacture.
1297   ForcedTQ   2024 May 5, 2:05pm  

GNL says


HeadSet says


stereotomy says


Rimfire ammo is a bitch to reload.

The only rimfire I remember is .22. Those were so cheap anyway there was no point in reloading even if you could.


Isn’t 17 HMR rim fire?



Yes it is. It’s a Winchester magnum rim fire case necked down to a .17 bullet. Typically 2,350 to 2,650 fps velocity depending on bullet grain.
1298   RWSGFY   2024 May 5, 3:58pm  

stereotomy says

Rimfire ammo is a bitch to reload.


Is it even possible?
1301   Eric Holder   2024 May 10, 12:58pm  

The_Deplorable says






Where to get a copy?

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