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2nd Amendment Discussion


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2018 Feb 17, 11:51am   300,025 views  1,510 comments

by CajunSteve   ➕follow (1)   ignore (1)  

With all the talk about the school shootings, let's take a look at what the 2nd Amendment actually says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Couple things to note in there:

1. The specific mention of a militia being the reason for the need to bear arms.
2. The 2nd Amendment never mentions the word gun at all.

So, what exactly is the definition of "arms"?

In 1755 Dr. Johnson’s Dictionary of the English Language was first published. It defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.”

Weapons of offence would seem to include pretty much anything and everything, from knives to nuclear weapons. The US has already seen fit to ban some weapons of offence so the 2nd Amendment clearly has not been interpreted strictly as meaning that the US cannot ban all "arms". Therefore, the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee citizens the right to own whatever weapons they choose.

So it then becomes a question of which weapons should be banned, which should be strictly regulated, and which should be lightly regulated or not at all. Like anything else, we should weigh an individual's right with society's right. When looked at in that manner, it becomes very difficult to justify why fully automatic or semi automatic rifles should be allowed. What purpose do they serve an individual? And why would that purpose outweigh the extreme damage those weapons have cased society??

Patrick thinks the Chamber of Commerce is the worst organization, and he may be correct, but the NRA is not far behind.



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1492   Eric Holder   2025 Apr 8, 11:54am  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says


Dealers have to keep track of what they sold to who including serial numbers. When they shut down (or ARE shut down and a lot were shut down during the Brandon admin) the FTA shows up and confiscates their records.


It's all on paper somewhere, probably already eaten by mice. Not to mention that cash-and-carry transactions in free states do not go through dealer books at all. So it's entirely plausible that majority of the guns in the country are completely untraceable.

Compare this with the premise of "the gubmint knows who has what where and will send jack-booted thugs to collect everything when the time comes". They might want to be able to, but they are far from having that capability.
1495   stereotomy   2025 Apr 17, 2:56pm  

The_Deplorable says





Not just ammo, but reloading presses and supplies. Here in the PRNY they do NICS checks for ammo (?!?).
1497   ForcedTQ   2025 Apr 26, 3:45pm  

Booger says





No Jess Piper, we can all see it’s the sweets and carbohydrates!!!!
1505   HeadSet   2025 May 28, 12:32pm  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says





She eats them instead.

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