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I recall what former Rep. Barbara Jordan (D) said about her experience with the Israeli lobby:

She said that each Member of Congress received a 'pledge card' from AIPAC in which the Member was asked to fill out, sign and return. It asked a few questions which basically boiled down to the Member agreeing to support Israel in all future legislative and or expenditures. If the Member refused to pledge their undying support for Israel, Jordan claimed that AIPAC would target the Member in the upcoming primary by supporting, with A LOT of money, the opposition candidate. That is exactly what happened to Jordan. She refused to sign, and although she was popular in her district, AIPAC saw to it the she would be defeated in the Primary, which she was.

Jordan later claimed that ALL Members of Congress (who have to run every two years) were well aware of the incredible power that AIPAC and other pro-Israeli lobbies yield in Washington, and as a result, were frightened of that power.

Sounds an awful lot like election interference by a foreign government to me. Of course it is, but nothing will ever come of it.

By the way, I would have opposed Jordan, who died in 1996, on practically every other issue that she stood upon, but on this one, IMO, she was 100% correct.

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1799160371615506812

@AFpost
Congressman Thomas Massie reveals to Tucker Carlson that his Republican colleagues have an “AIPAC babysitter” to ensure they vote in the interests of Israel at all times.

“It’s the only country that does this,” Massie adds.

Whole interview:

https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-thomas-massie

Patrick says

“AIPAC babysitter”

That's a nice way of saying 'foreign agent gang stalker'.

JFK's insistence that AIPAC be registered under FARA as well as his resistance to the Jews stealing the U235 from NUMEC is what got the man killed.

RayAmerica says

I recall what former Rep. Barbara Jordan (D) said about her experience with the Israeli lobby:

A Lesbian who resigned in 1978 for ill health, not for losing her primary, and a huge supporter of the Community Reinvestment Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

She was a Communist LGBTQ through and through and was so open about having her title and finances shared with "Partner" Nancy her aides warned her against blabbing about it in interviews, along with her long Feminist whinges against Marriage as "Subservience". It's much more likely she resigned as somebody had all the dirt on her for the payola she got for endorsing the CRA; and she is unbelievably buried in the Texas State Cemetary as a "Patriot" close to Stephen Austin.

Also a reminder if foreign aid has almost nothing to do with being $37T in Debt.

Patrick says

Wow, we achieved the destruction of Ham-ass, His-ebola, weakening of Iran's and diminishing of the Soviet presence in the Middle East with just meager $20B and change? Fucking bargain of the fucking century.

Compare this to $22B Bidet transferred to Iran in effort to appease the fucks earlier and tell me which chunk of money was better spent.

Patrick says

Well, that's certainly one thing that didn't contribute very much to $37T in national debt.

I wonder if Brown is one of the $1.5B Qatari Money US college/university department recipients

Patrick says

Israel was bombed by Iraq and was such a good ally, they didn't hit back at our request. Imagine if a country was bombed and the US said "Don't hit back" and they did - that's one helluva ally

We have no troops to speak of in Israel, except for a handful of signals/intel guys on an airbase there. Literal handful.

Israel regularly offers troops for US conflicts and we say "NO"

It's fun to compare the massive Euro Subsidy of US defence that costs at least $100B/year via NATO to the few billion to Israel.

Or the Marshall Plan, never paid back, trillions of modern dollars to Europe, which immediately imposed the Chicken tax and a multitude of tariffs on US Goods to say "Thanks for liberating Western Europe"

"Gotta finda reason to hate Israel"

I'm realizing the "Israel Smirk" and such really has no facts behind it, just a "Belief" that something is "Wrong". It's no accident that as the West degrades from it's postwar peak, these "feelings" re-emerge. "I don't like Israel so Mossad killed Kennedy. I can construct a wild, half-assed motive, so there's all the proof I need"

We say no?

Why?

Patrick says

We say no?

Why?

Probably because the presence of Israeli troops elsewhere annoys several other nations who can't be seen working on a team that includes the Zionist Entity.

Israel offers troops for both Iraq Wars and Afghanistan, and "No Thanks" was the answer.

BTW, I'm super jazzed with Trump's new Admin.

Iran totally fucking failed getting Hamas, Hezbollah, and then Houthis (3h Club) to attack by Proxy. And now the bonds with Saudi and UAE etc. get stronger. Next stop: Lebanon actually running it's own military and government without the illegal Hezbollah Armed Political Force (Hezzy SS)

AmericanKulak says

Probably because the presence of Israeli troops elsewhere annoys several other nations who can't be seen working on a team that includes the Zionist Entity.

Israel offers troops for both Iraq Wars and Afghanistan, and "No Thanks" was the answer.

Seems like a weak reason to reject their help, because they're all gonna hate Israel as much as humanly possible in any case.

Got a link about that refusal by the US?

Patrick says

Dan Bilzerian? He's suing his dad and family and they're suing him - over defrauding their Canadian Energy Company with "Personal Expenses"
https://www.reviewjournal.com/investigations/dan-bilzerian-sues-his-own-father-in-corporate-fight-3211860/

Dan also owes millions in gambling debts and has two heart attacks from coke and viagra abuse
https://www.unilad.com/celebrity/news/dan-bilzerian-heart-attacks-reason-705024-20231007

I won't even get into "Afghanistan" having jack and shit to do a threat to Israel for starters.

Or Sam Parker getting zero votes for his Senate run.

https://nitter.poast.org/Aristos_Revenge/status/1786397309367877912#m

AIPAC needs to be forced to register as a foreign agent (something JFK wanted to do IIRC, imagine that) and Israel has a parasitic one way relationship with the US.

But don't expect me to side with natural domestic enemies like obese black DEI administrators and marxist uggos with pronouns out of spite for Israel. It's not a binary choice.

The only side I'm on is the American side. From that POV, both the protesters and israel are enemies because both of them are trying to extract an American commitment to a foreign conflict in a foreign country.

Which is why I will continue to rightly point out that the same crowd pushing these palestine protests are the same crowd that ran BLM and burned down and destroyed parts of American cities with impunity.

While also pointing out that the markedly less tepid response of law enforcement to these same lefties protesting Palestine instead shows how much power the Jewish lobby in the US has. Which is a problem, a problem that is made easier when it's pointed out like this.

When BLM was tearing down statues and hating whitey, did we get a hate speech bill for whites? Nope. Did the police fuck their shit up aggressively? Nope. This is illustrative of who's got the capture of so many of our elected representatives in congress, and putting it on display in such a vulgar fashion is the best thing that can happen when it comes to spreading awareness of the issue so that it cannot be denied.

But simultaneously, the same crowd that ran BLM is the same crowd making smelly encampments for palestine and they are also natural enemies of ours. The apolitical frat kids heckling them and protecting the American flag? That's the party in all this that is closest to my "side" and who I care about the most. I'm happy they are getting their day in the sun.

I shouldn't even need to say this, but any commentary I leave on the frat boys messing around seems to elicit stupid replies like "White guys supporting Israel isnt based. Wtf is wrong with you?" When the frat boys have a much more simple and pro American frame than Gaza vs Israel or what have you, it's simply "ugly freaks are messing with our flag and invading our space, lets go hassle them"

Part of that picture is false though. Netanyahu is not likely to eat lobster, as it isn't kosher.

Would have been more accurate with AIPAC there instead of the Star of David. There are lots of Jews who are not necessarily for infinite US taxpayer funding of Israel.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-back-turned-ukraine-rubio-expedites-delivery-4bn-military-aid-israel

Patrick says

Yep, that's the MAGA dividing line. Support for Israel is still running 70%+ among GOP members, despite the Omeed Malik and Qatar nonstop smearing campaigns and what Twitter looks like. So the guy saying fuck off is not gonna get any traction. We're talking based on polls a few weeks old.

By the time AltWoke can reduce the polling numbers, the Abraham Accords will be in and Lucky Ducky will be fine again. Almost as if a protective hand...

https://ground.news/article/us-israel-could-take-joint-military-action-against-hamas-if-negotiations-fail-witkoff-says_866b87

U.S. Envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff stated that the U.S. And Israel may take military action against Hamas if negotiations fail, reflecting growing tensions over hostages.
President Donald Trump issued a 'last warning' to Hamas, demanding the immediate release of hostages and stating, 'it is OVER for you' if they do not comply.
Hamas dismissed Trump's threat, saying they will not release more hostages without a permanent ceasefire deal in the Gaza Strip.

Israel is not America. We should not be sending US troops there.

Patrick says

Israel is not America. We should not be sending US troops there.

Never have beyond a few dozen intel guys listening in at that ELINT facility in the Negev.

Looks like Russia and Iran caused Syria to blow up. A Marcusian-minority coalition running the state against the Sunni Majority for 40-50 years just had the lid explode after Russia left and the Iranians ran out of cash.

But of course, to anti-American propaganda, only the US creates problems by intervening to prop up "unnatural" states.

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/04/09/aipac-access-trump-natsec-officials-leaked/

AIPAC leader boasts of special ‘access’ to top Trump natsec officials in leaked audio

During an off-the-record panel, AIPAC’s CEO detailed his organization’s grooming of Trump’s top national security officials, and how his group’s “access” ensures they continue to follow Israel’s agenda.

The Grayzone has obtained audio of an off-the-record session from the 2025 Congressional Summit of AIPAC, the main US lobbying arm of the state of Israel. Recorded by an attendee of the panel discussion, the audio features AIPAC’s new CEO, Elliott Brandt, describing how his organization has cultivated influence with three top national security officials in the Trump administration – Secretary of State Marco Rubio, National Security Director Mike Waltz, and CIA Director John Ratcliffe – and how it believes it can gain “access” to their internal discussions. ...

With the cameras off, AIPAC leadership provided unusually candid details of their activities. In one revealing admission, Brandt explained how he and his lobbying organization groomed the future CIA director and other top Trump officials as pro-Israel assets.

Elliot Brandt was promoted to Executive Director of AIPAC in 2024, making him one of the most powerful lobbyists in Washington. Though he is largely unknown to the American public, Brandt has spent around three decades building relationships on Capitol Hill. This was the key, he suggested, to cultivating the future leaders of America’s national security state as loyal servants of Israel.

Referring to Trump’s Secretary of State Marco Rubio, his National Security Director Mike Waltz, and Elise Stefanik, whose nomination to serve as the US ambassador to the United Nations was suddenly withdrawn to preserve the GOP’s majority in the House of Representatives, Brandt explained to AIPAC members, “Those three people have something in common: they all served in Congress.”

After relying heavily on pro-Israel donors to fuel their campaigns for office, “they all have relationships with key AIPAC leaders from their communities,” said the AIPAC CEO. “So the lines of communication are good should there be something questionable or curious, and we need access on the conversation.”

Brandt’s comments corroborate Representative Thomas Massie’s claim that each member of Congress is expected to answer to an “AIPAC person.”

Qatar and China are giving BILLIONS and BILLIONS to US Ivy League schools turning students in to radical Marxist anti-Semites.

And some people on the Right are worried about AIPAC?

socal2 says

Qatar and China are giving BILLIONS and BILLIONS to US Ivy League schools turning students in to radical Marxist anti-Semites.

And some people on the Right are worried about AIPAC?

Both are bad. Qatar and China are going after students, but AIPAC is going after elected politicians.

AIPAC is going after elected politicians.

Where does AIPAC's money come from?

US Citizens.

Patrick says

The ACZ was forced to register because they mixed foreign donations with domestic ones and the founder had held an Israeli government position before.

However, already in 1959 various domestic pro-zionist groups created what became AIPAC. All of AIPAC's money is from US Citizens, and it didn't become a major influence group until the 70s-80s. AIPAC is #191 of all lobbyist groups in the USA.

socal2 says

And some people on the Right are worried about AIPAC?

Just Sino-Iranian malfeasance, backed by Koch-Soros-Rockefeller as well.

I love how Iran is running 3 militant groups in 3 foreign countries (Lebanon, Israel, Yemen) and basically running Iraq while claiming they just wanna be left alooooooone.

And how the role of Turkey and Qatar in Syria is studiously ignored by "Influencers"