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Part of that picture is false though. Netanyahu is not likely to eat lobster, as it isn't kosher.

Would have been more accurate with AIPAC there instead of the Star of David. There are lots of Jews who are not necessarily for infinite US taxpayer funding of Israel.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-back-turned-ukraine-rubio-expedites-delivery-4bn-military-aid-israel

Patrick says

Yep, that's the MAGA dividing line. Support for Israel is still running 70%+ among GOP members, despite the Omeed Malik and Qatar nonstop smearing campaigns and what Twitter looks like. So the guy saying fuck off is not gonna get any traction. We're talking based on polls a few weeks old.

By the time AltWoke can reduce the polling numbers, the Abraham Accords will be in and Lucky Ducky will be fine again. Almost as if a protective hand...

https://ground.news/article/us-israel-could-take-joint-military-action-against-hamas-if-negotiations-fail-witkoff-says_866b87

U.S. Envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff stated that the U.S. And Israel may take military action against Hamas if negotiations fail, reflecting growing tensions over hostages.
President Donald Trump issued a 'last warning' to Hamas, demanding the immediate release of hostages and stating, 'it is OVER for you' if they do not comply.
Hamas dismissed Trump's threat, saying they will not release more hostages without a permanent ceasefire deal in the Gaza Strip.

Israel is not America. We should not be sending US troops there.

Patrick says

Israel is not America. We should not be sending US troops there.

Never have beyond a few dozen intel guys listening in at that ELINT facility in the Negev.

Looks like Russia and Iran caused Syria to blow up. A Marcusian-minority coalition running the state against the Sunni Majority for 40-50 years just had the lid explode after Russia left and the Iranians ran out of cash.

But of course, to anti-American propaganda, only the US creates problems by intervening to prop up "unnatural" states.

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/04/09/aipac-access-trump-natsec-officials-leaked/

AIPAC leader boasts of special ‘access’ to top Trump natsec officials in leaked audio

During an off-the-record panel, AIPAC’s CEO detailed his organization’s grooming of Trump’s top national security officials, and how his group’s “access” ensures they continue to follow Israel’s agenda.

The Grayzone has obtained audio of an off-the-record session from the 2025 Congressional Summit of AIPAC, the main US lobbying arm of the state of Israel. Recorded by an attendee of the panel discussion, the audio features AIPAC’s new CEO, Elliott Brandt, describing how his organization has cultivated influence with three top national security officials in the Trump administration – Secretary of State Marco Rubio, National Security Director Mike Waltz, and CIA Director John Ratcliffe – and how it believes it can gain “access” to their internal discussions. ...

With the cameras off, AIPAC leadership provided unusually candid details of their activities. In one revealing admission, Brandt explained how he and his lobbying organization groomed the future CIA director and other top Trump officials as pro-Israel assets.

Elliot Brandt was promoted to Executive Director of AIPAC in 2024, making him one of the most powerful lobbyists in Washington. Though he is largely unknown to the American public, Brandt has spent around three decades building relationships on Capitol Hill. This was the key, he suggested, to cultivating the future leaders of America’s national security state as loyal servants of Israel.

Referring to Trump’s Secretary of State Marco Rubio, his National Security Director Mike Waltz, and Elise Stefanik, whose nomination to serve as the US ambassador to the United Nations was suddenly withdrawn to preserve the GOP’s majority in the House of Representatives, Brandt explained to AIPAC members, “Those three people have something in common: they all served in Congress.”

After relying heavily on pro-Israel donors to fuel their campaigns for office, “they all have relationships with key AIPAC leaders from their communities,” said the AIPAC CEO. “So the lines of communication are good should there be something questionable or curious, and we need access on the conversation.”

Brandt’s comments corroborate Representative Thomas Massie’s claim that each member of Congress is expected to answer to an “AIPAC person.”

Qatar and China are giving BILLIONS and BILLIONS to US Ivy League schools turning students in to radical Marxist anti-Semites.

And some people on the Right are worried about AIPAC?

socal2 says

Qatar and China are giving BILLIONS and BILLIONS to US Ivy League schools turning students in to radical Marxist anti-Semites.

And some people on the Right are worried about AIPAC?

Both are bad. Qatar and China are going after students, but AIPAC is going after elected politicians.

AIPAC is going after elected politicians.

Where does AIPAC's money come from?

US Citizens.

Patrick says

The ACZ was forced to register because they mixed foreign donations with domestic ones and the founder had held an Israeli government position before.

However, already in 1959 various domestic pro-zionist groups created what became AIPAC. All of AIPAC's money is from US Citizens, and it didn't become a major influence group until the 70s-80s. AIPAC is #191 of all lobbyist groups in the USA.

socal2 says

And some people on the Right are worried about AIPAC?

Just Sino-Iranian malfeasance, backed by Koch-Soros-Rockefeller as well.

I love how Iran is running 3 militant groups in 3 foreign countries (Lebanon, Israel, Yemen) and basically running Iraq while claiming they just wanna be left alooooooone.

And how the role of Turkey and Qatar in Syria is studiously ignored by "Influencers"

Patrick says

Not on topic, but Javier in that role might be top 10 or better in that movie, of any movie I've watched. Intense as a guy with English as a 2nd language. I'm not a movie guy. No Country For Old men is awesome.

https://x.com/henri_fjord/status/1965376344772292934

Christian Nationalist v. Israeli jew

Let's say the US refused to fund Israel at all. Would the US be better off or worse off? I think it's obvious that the US would be far better off, both from the savings and from the increased credibility in the world. Right now, we look extremely biased toward Israel, and for good reason.

https://x.com/IfindRetards/status/1967919776774357436



@JobTheft

Thanks for alerting me to this one, but please try to keep posts about facts. The overt antisemitism gets tiring. There are facts to be discussed, like the photo above, but if you feel the need to post extremely antisemitic remarks, please put them in the political incorrectness thread:

https://patrick.net/post/1285044/2015-09-19-national-political-incorrectness-day

Kinda sad to post it, but I'm pretty sure it's true.

The organization that runs AIPAC tracker, run by a San Diego "Rainbow" Progressive "community organizer".

I doubt he has a "NARAL Tracker"

Epstein (something Dems/Massie didn't care about until recently) and AIPAC are the wedge issues to break MAGA from the right and save what is left of Globaloney and preserve the Red-Green Alliance by adding Chrislam to it.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Chrislam.html

https://thirdmill.org/answers/answer.asp/file/45586

Yes, they are wedges issues, but it would be pretty easy for Trump to instantly disable them both by:

1. Releasing the full unredacted Epstein files.
2. Calling out excessive control of Congress by AIPAC on behalf of a foreign country.

https://x.com/martyrmade/status/1985798794232152358

They can handle mild criticism of Israel (because they have no choice), but they lose their minds when someone carries the discussion forward to whether Jewish American billionaires and the network of Jewish organizations have anything to do w/Congress being in lockstep on an issue which divides the public.

It’s a fraught issue, of course, and people of goodwill should understand why Jews get twitchy when any question of split loyalty is raised. But it’s not only a reasonable question, it’s a necessary one in an ostensible democracy where everyone can see that well-funded organized minorities make a mockery of one man, one vote. As usual, Trump is very useful in this regard, and simply brags in public about how much he does for Israel to earn the money of Miriam Adelson. The issue is not Jewish individuals, but organized Jewish political activism blatantly on behalf of a foreign nation. Nick seems to disagree with me on that (if I’m not mistaken), and if so I disagree with Nick. Jewish voices -
@ComicDaveSmith
@normfinkelstein
@JeffreyASachs
and others - have led the way opposing this at great personal cost, and for a long time were voices in the wilderness while most Gentiles were cowed into silence by the kind of gutter politics of personal destruction we’re seeing used against @TuckerCarlson
today. @NickJFuentes, whatever you think of him, is simply giving the Israel First crowd a taste of the medicine they’ve been spooning out for decades.

Either way, this is a real issue, and everyone knows it, including the people demanding that it not be discussed. It would be one thing if our slavish devotion to Israel manifested in diplomatic support and a few billion a year in foreign aid, but our unconditional support for Israel’s belligerence in the Middle East has put us in a long-term state of war, or near-war, with countries with whom we have no natural cause for hostility. We’ve killed people, and Americans have been killed, over this.

If AIPAC should be under FARA, let's see the evidence.

PAC and IRS rules prohibit AIPAC from taking foreign money.

Where's the beef?

This is part of the JAQ off - accuse and accuse without evidence, until something presented without evidence has a veneer of truthiness about it by repetition. The Big Lie

Juggernaut Nihilism / Marmalade couldn't shut himself up long enough (2016) to make inroads. Had he kept his context dicing, faux reasonable podcasts long enough, he might have really gotten in deep.
Example of Marmalade's context editing, where he skips over vital context, which if included, would put the quotation in a totally different light:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnNP8dEEFHA&t=1363s

But he couldn't. Marmalade has been making weird posts since 2003, way back in MMA forums. This isn't something he picked up in research, it's a lifetime of deeply held belief.

I still have to look up that Jungian term about not being able to shut the mouth about deep feelings.

Edit: Parapraxis, or the Shadow, or the Anima/Animus struggle.

Very interesting to see the Paleocons/Francosimps behaving.

They unveiled themselves and jumped out too fast, too soon.

In part because their funders want them active NOW to take advantage of the weak economy not yet feeling the effects of Trump's Policies (always a 2-3 qtr delay, minimum) nor the fed cuts.

I idea that the USA is going to be a post-liberal Integralist state is absurd, but dreamers gonna dream.

The very first thing that would happen is the Reconstructionist Reformed-UltaTrad Catholic-ROCOR alliance would collapse. In fact, the Cafeteria Trad Cath would collapse just from the counterweight among mainline Catholicism itself. The other two are tiny denominations, with ROCOR being infintesimal compared to Greek, and all Orthodox in the US are 1% of the Population - less than the number of Baptists in TN alone.

A decent economy is the deathknell of this Psyop to push the foreign-backed Paleocon/Francoist agenda.

Trump must focus on the Economy, Economy, Economy.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

If AIPAC should be under FARA, let's see the evidence.

PAC and IRS rules prohibit AIPAC from taking foreign money.

Let me translate - AIPAC is immune from FARA because they have fully laundered local proxies. Also, if a major donor of AIPAC has dual US-Israeli citizenship, that is an Israeli citizen lobbying congress on behalf of Israel.

HeadSet says

Let me translate - AIPAC is immune from FARA because they have fully laundered local proxies. Also, if a major donor of AIPAC has dual US-Israeli citizenship, that is an Israeli citizen lobbying congress on behalf of Israel.

US Citizens have 1A Rights. Courts have said political donations are 100% covered by the 1A.

SCOTUS either creating two classes of citizen OR determining 1A rights didn't encompass political donations for US Citizens would both be a major break with precedence.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

US Citizens have 1A Rights. Courts have said political donations are 100% covered by the 1A.

Yes, an effective loophole for an Israeli citizen to make political donations.

HeadSet says

Yes, an effective loophole for an Israeli citizen to make political donations.

Do we have numbers on how many AIPAC donors are dual citizens and how much they give?

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Do we have numbers on how many AIPAC donors are dual citizens and how much they give?

https://www.trackaipac.com/donors
These two high contributors are also Israeli citizens:
Miriam Adelson donated $5million to RJC
Haim Saban donated $2million directly to AIPAC
Others on this list as well, plus a few corporations and shell companies.

HeadSet says

Haim Saban donated $2million directly to AIPAC

Huh, involved in the He-Man theme song.

Miriam Adelson donated $5million to RJC
And bigly to Trump's Campaign, too.

As long as it applies to wealthy dual citizens like Dan Bilzerian from ever donating to any PAC, I'm fine with this.

And sadly Elon, who holds triple Canadian and South African citizenship.

And Thiel, who holds German and New Zealand triple citizenship.

It'll certainly stop a lot of Canadians from donating.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-trump-clinton-u-s-election-1.3837993

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

And sadly Elon, who holds triple Canadian and South African citizenship.

And Thiel, who holds German and New Zealand triple citizenship.

It'll certainly stop a lot of Canadians from donating.

Canadians, Germans, New Zealanders, and South Africans do not have a handler assigned to each person in Congress.