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DeNiro leads crowd in singing God Bless America at Tony awards
2018 Jun 11, 3:16am 14,617 views 129 comments
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MisterLefty
2018 Jun 14, 6:30pm
LeonDurham says
Yes it will. Employee take home pay will be reduced. Employees would decide that the new pay wasn't enough and would quit.Employee pay after taxes might be reduced to pay for the increased taxes to fund socialized medicine, perhaps. but as the employer contribution is not represented on their current paycheck, when it is not longer provided, it can't in and of itself reduce the paycheck.LeonDurham says
Not according to every available study that Ive ever seen.Which you won't reference. To be clear, a reference describing how care will be better in the USA under a scenario of paying less would be interesting to see.LeonDurham says
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LeonDurham
2018 Jun 14, 7:05pm
MisterLefty says
Right--so, as I said, employee net pay is reduced.
MisterLefty says
lol--you think I can't find those studes?
https://www.imf.org/external/np/seminars/eng/2011/paris/pdf/Joumard.pdf
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/full/10.1377/hlthaff.20.3.219
http://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf
I can link to more if you'd like, but it's pretty simple if you want to do it yourself. Google--health care system efficiency by country.
Employee pay after taxes might be reduced to pay for the increased taxes to fund socialized medicine, perhaps. but as the employer contribution is not represented on their current paycheck, when it is not longer provided, it can't in and of itself reduce the paycheck
Right--so, as I said, employee net pay is reduced.
MisterLefty says
Which you won't reference. To be clear, a reference describing how care will be better in the USA under a scenario of paying less would be interesting to see
lol--you think I can't find those studes?
https://www.imf.org/external/np/seminars/eng/2011/paris/pdf/Joumard.pdf
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/full/10.1377/hlthaff.20.3.219
http://www.who.int/healthinfo/paper30.pdf
I can link to more if you'd like, but it's pretty simple if you want to do it yourself. Google--health care system efficiency by country.
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MisterLefty
2018 Jun 14, 7:35pm
LeonDurham says
Right--so, as I said, employee net pay is reducedYes, to pay for higher socialized medicine taxes, an argument against it.LeonDurham says
lol--you think I can't find those studes?I don't think you understand them. Please point out in any of those links information verifying your belief that by paying less, care would improve.
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 14, 7:47pm
CBOEtrader
2018 Jun 14, 7:47pm
LeonDurham says
This isn't true man. Someone on Medicaid has better access to care than any of us. To be on medicaid you need to make less than $12500/yr.
These same people have much higher rates of IMR because of poor choices. Go read any legit study on the topic anywhere. The causes of IMR are pre-teen and young teen pregnancy, drugs, poor eating habits, and stress. All of these women have access to a few pre natal screenings. All of them. Usually they have free access.
Is it that hard for you to accept reality--that healthcare access differs based on $$?
This isn't true man. Someone on Medicaid has better access to care than any of us. To be on medicaid you need to make less than $12500/yr.
These same people have much higher rates of IMR because of poor choices. Go read any legit study on the topic anywhere. The causes of IMR are pre-teen and young teen pregnancy, drugs, poor eating habits, and stress. All of these women have access to a few pre natal screenings. All of them. Usually they have free access.
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LeonDurham
2018 Jun 14, 7:47pm
MisterLefty says
By copying the best of those systems, efficiency would be vastly improved and outcomes could improve even as costs decreased.
I don't think you understand them. Please point out in any of those links information verifying your belief that by paying less, care would improve.
By copying the best of those systems, efficiency would be vastly improved and outcomes could improve even as costs decreased.
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LeonDurham
2018 Jun 15, 8:53am
Goran_K says
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/minimum-wage-worker-needs-2-174600615.html
"NLIHC found that a worker needs to earn $17.90 an hour at a full-time job — 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year — to afford a modest one-bedroom apartment. That's over $10 more than the federal minimum wage of $7.25."
LeonDurham sayslol--if only it were that easy. Pretty sure a high school education and a job at Walmart doesn't keep you from being poor.
What is your opinion based on? The Brookings Institute studied decades of data.
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/minimum-wage-worker-needs-2-174600615.html
"NLIHC found that a worker needs to earn $17.90 an hour at a full-time job — 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year — to afford a modest one-bedroom apartment. That's over $10 more than the federal minimum wage of $7.25."
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Television audiences get bleeped version and wonder what they missed
DeNiro walked out and said 'I’m just going to say one thing, and that's f*** Trump'
The audience leapt to it's feet, and cheered the statement while the actor, 74, pumped his fists
THEN he said 'its no longer 'down with Trump', its 'f*** Trump' and the audience cheered again
Robert DeNiro yelled 'f*** Trump' during a foul-mouthed rant at the Tony Awards and got a standing ovation.
The audience went wild, some rising to their feet. DeNiro pumped his fists triumphantly.
The outburst was bleeped, so Broadway fans watching at home didn't hear the expletive.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5828513/Robert-DeNiro-yells-F-Trump-stage-Tonys-TWICE-gets-standing-ovation.html