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A phone which does not spy on you


               
2018 Aug 19, 10:49am   59,087 views  351 comments

by Patrick   follow (59)  

https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/

Librem 5, the phone that focuses on security by design and privacy protection by default. Running Free/Libre and Open Source software and a GNU+Linux Operating System designed to create an open development utopia, rather than the walled gardens from all other phone providers.

A fully standards-based freedom-oriented system, based on Debian and many other upstream projects, has never been done before–we will be the first to seriously attempt this.

The Librem 5 phone will be the world’s first ever IP-native mobile handset, using end-to-end encrypted decentralized communication.


Many others have attempted Open Source phones and failed. I hope this one works, especially since I just discovered that you cannot turn off wifi or Bluetooth on Android or iOS. "Turning it off" in the controls on those phones merely disconnects you from current access points, but leaves them on so they can spy on your location with great precision and open you up to various exploits:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/21/ios-11-apple-toggling-wifi-bluetooth-control-centre-doesnt-turn-them-off

On iOS 11, pressing the wifi toggle immediately disconnects the iPhone or iPad from any wifi networks, but leaves the wireless radio available for use by location services, scanning for the names of nearby wifi access points. The Bluetooth toggle operates in a similar fashion. ...

A similar thing happens in Android smartphones, which use wifi as part of their location services. Switching wifi off prevents it from connecting to wifi access points, but allows it to continue periodically scanning for access point names to help pinpoint its location.




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342   The_Deplorable   2025 Oct 24, 9:50am  

Question: Is there a safe phone that does not spy on you?
343   stereotomy   2025 Oct 24, 4:02pm  

Patrick says






Fuck retailers who require you to install their app to get discounts. My family will instead never shop there again unless it's an emergency.

"Fuck you I won't do what you tell me . . ." Yeah I know they are libtard cunts but that is a good song.
344   Patrick   2025 Dec 3, 11:40am  

https://slaynews.com/news/india-mandates-government-surveillance-apps-installed-all-smartphones-track-general-public-24-7/


India’s government has ignited nationwide backlash after quietly ordering private companies to preinstall a controversial government app on every smartphone sold or imported into the country, allowing bureaucrats to track members of the public night and day. ...

The order, sent out last week, gave companies 90 days to ensure the government app Sanchar Saathi was “preinstalled on all mobile handsets manufactured or imported for use in India.”

Officials claimed the requirement was designed “to identify and report acts that may endanger telecom cybersecurity.” ...

The moment Reuters exposed the order, the uproar exploded online, especially among critics of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s increasingly tech-authoritarian government.

https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/india-orders-mobile-phones-preloaded-with-government-app-ensure-cyber-safety-2025-12-01/
345   Patrick   2025 Dec 4, 11:22am  

https://slaynews.com/news/eu-approves-new-mandate-blanket-scanning-public-private-messages-protect-children/


The Council of the European Union has quietly approved a sweeping new mandate that gives unelected bureaucrats direct access to “scan” the private messages of the general public, all under the guise of “protecting children.”

Eurocrats have taken another major step toward resurrecting the EU’s infamous Chat Control surveillance regime.

However, this time the dystopian agenda has been advanced this time behind closed doors. ...

Officials still insist that the chilling plot is about “child protection,” but critics across the political spectrum say the plan is simply Chat Control 2.0, a massive surveillance framework disguised as reform.


You see, we had to spy on and then murder all political opposition for the children! For the children! That makes it OK.
347   Patrick   2025 Dec 16, 12:41pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/uk-lawmakers-push-mandate-surveillance-tracking-smartphones-child-safety/


UK Lawmakers Push to Mandate Surveillance Tracking on All Smartphones for ‘Child Safety’

Privacy advocates are sounding the alarm over the most sweeping attempt at digital control ever proposed in a Western democracy, as UK lawmakers advance plans to roll out an unprecedented public monitoring program under the guise of “protecting children’s well-being.”

A new set of amendments quietly slipped into the United Kingdom’s Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill would force nearly all smartphones and tablets sold in the country to come preloaded with tamper-proof government-mandated surveillance software.

Under the legislation, the monitoring cannot be removed, disabled, or opted out of.


https://slaynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/children-wellbeing-schools-bill-amendments-11-dec-2025.pdf
348   HeadSet   2025 Dec 17, 6:05pm  

Patrick says

UK Lawmakers Push to Mandate Surveillance Tracking on All Smartphones for ‘Child Safety’

Does that mean the mic is recording? Smartphones already track your location.
349   Patrick   2025 Dec 17, 7:22pm  

I think some experiments have shown that your phone is always listening to you anyway.

And probably tracking your location at all times.

Maybe this one is better:

https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/

Claims to have physical off switches for mic and GPS.

$2K though, and maybe they're just another front for the NSA anyway.
351   Patrick   2026 Jan 12, 12:16pm  

https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-wegmans-is-storing-biometric-data-on-shoppers-eyes-voices-and-faces


NYC Wegmans is storing biometric data on shoppers' eyes, voices and faces

Wegmans in New York City has begun collecting biometric data from anyone who enters its supermarkets, according to new signage posted at the chain's Manhattan and Brooklyn locations earlier this month.

Anyone entering the store could have data on their face, eyes and voices collected and stored by the Rochester-headquartered supermarket chain. The information is used to "protect the safety and security of our patrons and employees," according to the signage. The new scanning policy is an expansion of a 2024 pilot.

The chain had initially said that the scanning system was only for a small group of employees and promised to delete any biometric data it collected from shoppers during the pilot rollout. The new notice makes no such assurances.

Wegmans representatives did not reply to questions about how the data would be stored, why it changed its policy or if it would share the data with law enforcement.

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