Where is the scientific, historic or empirical evidence that the greater the racial, ethnic, cultural and religious diversity of a nation, the stronger it becomes?

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Where is the scientific, historic or empirical evidence that the greater the racial, ethnic, cultural and religious diversity of a nation, the stronger it becomes?

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After playing clips of Democratic politicians reciting that truth of modern liberalism, Tucker Carlson asked, “How, precisely, is diversity our strength? Since you’ve made this our new national motto, please be specific.”

Reaction to Carlson’s question, with some declaring him a racist for having raised it, suggests that what we are dealing with here is not a demonstrable truth but a creed not subject to debate.

Yet the question remains valid:

Where is the scientific, historic or empirical evidence that the greater the racial, ethnic, cultural and religious diversity of a nation, the stronger it becomes?

From recent decades, it seems more true to say the reverse: The more diverse a nation, the greater the danger of its disintegration.

Ethnic diversity, after all, tore apart our mighty Cold War rival, splintering the Soviet Union into 15 nations, three of which — Moldova, Ukraine, Georgia — have since split further along ethnic lines.

Russia had to fight two wars to hold onto Chechnya and prevent the diverse peoples of the North Caucasus from splitting off on ethnic grounds, as Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan had done.

Ethnic diversity then shattered Yugoslavia into seven separate nations.

And even as we proclaim diversity to be our greatest strength, nations everywhere are recoiling from it.

The rise of populism and nationalism across Europe is a reaction to the new diversity represented by the Arab, Asian and African millions who have lately come, and the tens of millions desperate to enter.

Center-left and center-right parties are losing ground in European elections because they are seen as feckless in meeting what more and more indigenous Europeans believe to be an existential threat — mass migration from across the Med.

Japan’s population has ceased to grow, and each year brings fewer toddlers into its schools. Yet Tokyo resists the racial and ethnic diversity greater immigration would bring. Why, if diversity is a strength?

What South Koreans dream of is uniting again with the 22 million separated members of their national family who live in the North, but share the same history and blood.

This summer, in its Basic Law, Israel declared itself an ethnonational state and national home of the Jewish people. African migrants crossing the Sinai to seek sanctuary in Israel are unwelcome.

Consider China, which seeks this century to surpass America as the first power on earth. Does Xi Jinping welcome a greater racial, ethnic and cultural diversity within his county as, say, Barack Obama does in ours?

In his western province of Xinjiang, Xi has set up an archipelago of detention camps. Purpose: Re-educate his country’s Uighurs and Kazakhs by purging them of their religious and tribal identities, and making them and their children more like Han Chinese in allegiance to the Communist Party and Chinese nation.

Xi fears that the 10 million Uighurs of Xinjiang, as an ethnic and religious minority, predominantly Muslim, wish to break away and establish an East Turkestan, a nation of their own, out of China. And he is correct.

What China is doing is brutalitarian. But what China is saying with its ruthless policy is that diversity — religious, racial, cultural — can break us apart as it did the USSR. And we are not going to let that happen.

Do the Buddhists of Myanmar cherish the religious diversity that the Muslim Rohingya of Rakhine State bring to their country?

America has always been more than an idea, an ideology or a propositional nation. It is a country that belongs to a separate and identifiable people with its own history, heroes, holidays, symbols, songs, myths, mores — its own culture.

Again, where is the evidence that the more Americans who can trace their roots to the Third World, and not to Europe, the stronger we will be?

Is the Britain of Theresa May, with its new racial, religious and ethnic diversity, a stronger nation than was the U.K. of Lloyd George, which ruled a fourth of mankind in 1920?

Was it not the unity Bismarck forged among the diverse Germanic peoples, bringing them into a single nation under the Kaiser in 1871, that made Germany a far stronger and more formidable power in Europe?

Empires, confederations and alliances are multiethnic and multicultural. And, inevitably, their diversity pulls them apart.

The British Empire was the greatest in modern history. What tore it apart? Tribalism, the demands of diverse peoples, rooted in blood and soil, to be rid of foreign rule and to have their own place in the sun.

And who are loudest in preaching that our diversity is our strength?

Are they not the same people who told us that democracy was the destiny of all mankind and that, as the world’s “exceptional nation,” we must seize the opportunity of our global preeminence to impose its blessings on the less enlightened tribes of the Middle East and Hindu Kush?

If the establishment is proven wrong about greater diversity bringing greater strength to America, there will be no do-over for the USA.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-14/pat-buchanan-unpardonable-heresy-tucker-carlson

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Strategist 2018 Sep 15, 8:27am

MisterLefty says

Where is the scientific, historic or empirical evidence that the greater the racial, ethnic, cultural and religious diversity of a nation, the stronger it becomes?

dr6B says

Also, in a sense United States was populated by a rather diverse set of peoples (from many different European countries), who wanted to assimilate and create a new identity.

I would say the answer to the OP is right here in the USA. No country is more diverse than America, and no country is stronger than us.
America has also shown people from all over the world with different values and beliefs can generally live in peace in a democracy.

4 MisterLefty 2018 Sep 15, 10:18am

I think it can go either way if that is the only historical variable considered. Japan kicked ass in Asia leading up to WW2, while a relatively small number of Spaniards defeated the Aztecs centuries before, and their defeated ancestors adopted the conqueror's culture and forgot their native identity. Regarding what became the USA, there were individual European countries warring with each other at one time, as well as with the natives, and then the country became willingly settled by European immigrants from diverse countries, and unwillingly by Africans initially, with the natives being displaced. Maybe it depends on the type of ingredient that is added to increase the diversity stew, and how the added ingredients combine with the others.

FortWayne 2018 Sep 15, 10:34am

But it’s single culture, we promote only one.

Politics of identity, which is ripping us apart demanding everyone be treated different is destroying us. We’ve been on decline. Trump just put a slow down on that.

Strategist says

MisterLefty says
Where is the scientific, historic or empirical evidence that the greater the racial, ethnic, cultural and religious diversity of a nation, the stronger it becomes?

dr6B says

Also, in a sense United States was populated by a rather diverse set of peoples (from many different European countries), who wanted to assimilate and create a new identity.

I would say the answer to the OP is right here in the USA. No country is more diverse than America, and no country is stronger than us.
America has also shown people from all over the world with different values and beliefs can generally live in peace in a democracy.

marcus 2018 Sep 15, 10:47am

Strategist says

I would say the answer to the OP is right here in the USA. No country is more diverse than America, and no country is stronger than us.

Yes.

You know at one point not so long ago, from the point of view of many WASPS, having Italians, Irish, Poles and Germans coming in to this country was increasing diversity in a very very harmful and scary way.

And yet now, the people complaining about too much diversity, are virtually always considering all those groups part of the "white" monolith.

Don't you know that eventually, in the same way that those "others" melted in to the "white" group, all these other groups that you fear or disparage will be part of a larger group ?

That is, eventually the otherness people see in blacks or asians or people from india or the middle east, will disappear almost as much as the catholic versus protestant did.

I wonder how long it will take before the largest racial group in America will be "mixed." Cultures are lost, new cultures form. By then, you've got to know that we will be over this. People have always mixed, it's just the radius we can now reach to mix with is larger. It's beneficial genetically to mix with cousins that are very distant (common ancestors as far back as possible). I'm not advocating intentionally mating with people of other races, just for that reason, but if and when it happens, it's good.

The U.S. is leading the way, and sure there might be some growing pains, but get over it, and maybe even be proud of it.

Or to put it differently, get over yourself.

CBOEtrader 2018 Sep 15, 11:02am

marcus says

Don't you know that eventually, in the same way that those "others" melted in to the white group, all these other groups that you fear or disparage will be part of a larger group ?

Marcus and Trump agree on this goal. Unfortunateky today's nazi left wont let us have a larger american group. They would accuse you of white supremacy for this hate speech, just like they accuse Trump.

marcus 2018 Sep 15, 11:04am

FortWayne says

Trump just put a slow down on that

Wrong.

Trump has actually caused a dramatic uptick in tribalism. Racists feel more comfortable being open about their racism, and some of the far lefties are doubling down on identity politics. A mistake yes, but it's happening, cause and effect.

CBOEtrader 2018 Sep 15, 11:13am

marcus says

cause and effect.

Provably wrong.

Go read the wikileaks where HRC backed extremists financed by Soros dressed like Bernie supporters and attack trump supporters, so as to smear both sides.

Trump finally made it ok not to give in to the left's weaponized istphobe-phobeist name calling. This is an amazing societal accomplishment that everyone should thank trump for.

The leftists, both the antifa extremists and CNN and even to a lesser extent the less active leftists like Marcus, are all going though stages of the extinction burst wherein simply accusing others of racism for wrongthink isnt good enough anymore.
https://study.com/academy/lesson/extinction-burst-in-psychology-definition-examples-quiz.html

And thus as Marcus puts it

marcus says

the far lefties are doubling down on identity politics.

10 mell 2018 Sep 15, 1:39pm

dr6B says

MisterLefty says
Is the Britain of Theresa May, with its new racial, religious and ethnic diversity, a stronger nation than was the U.K. of Lloyd George, which ruled a fourth of mankind in 1920?

British Empire in 1920 was far more "diverse" than Britain of Theresa May today. Not saying that it is good or bad, just pointing out a factual flaw in article.

Also, in a sense United States was populated by a rather diverse set of peoples (from many different European countries), who wanted to assimilate and create a new identity.

The Europeans making up the US are incredibly homogenous though by culture and race. Europeans with few exceptions are all very close to each other.

Bd6r 2018 Sep 15, 2:06pm

mell says

The Europeans making up the US are incredibly homogenous though by culture and race. Europeans with few exceptions are all very close to each other.

Europeans of 19th century hated guts of each other and were culturally rather far apart from each other. I'd go out on a limb and say that South Italians or Spanish are closer to Persians or Christian Arabs culturally than to Scandinavians. Also, there were not insignificant numbers of Americans of Mexican origin (TX, NM), Chinese, Japanese on West Coast. Difference from present perhaps is that people came here for opportunities to work.

12 bob2356 2018 Sep 15, 2:06pm

mell says

Europeans with few exceptions are all very close to each other.

So that's why they spent thousands of years in endless wars. Because they are all so close to each other. Now I understand. ROFLOL.

13 mell 2018 Sep 15, 2:13pm

dr6B says

mell says
The Europeans making up the US are incredibly homogenous though by culture and race. Europeans with few exceptions are all very close to each other.

Europeans of 19th century hated guts of each other and were culturally rather far apart from each other. I'd go out on a limb and say that South Italians or Spanish are closer to Persians or Christian Arabs culturally than to Scandinavians. Also, there were not insignificant numbers of Americans of Mexican origin (TX, NM), Chinese, Japanese on West Coast.

bob2356 says

mell says
Europeans with few exceptions are all very close to each other.

So that's why they spent thousands of years in endless wars. Because they are all so close to each other. Now I understand. ROFLOL.

Doesn't change the fact that they are incredibly homogenous. People fought wars for all kind of today considered petty reasons back then. Also science was lesser evolved. However most of them are either Christian or Orthodox, Caucasian (later Asians and Indians) and sport similar traditions and values. Once those issues were resolved they learned to live with each other quickly in peace. Absolutely no comparison to the endless wars of Africans and middle-easterns. America is a success story of Europeans, Asians and Indians.

14 mell 2018 Sep 15, 2:18pm

Also Mexicans are essentially a slightly darker shade of white, similar to many Spaniards, Italians etc. I think as long as the US maintained a tough stance on immigration from Mexico the legal and integrated Mexican immigrants are part of that success story. Easy since they are Christians as well.

Bd6r 2018 Sep 15, 2:32pm

mell says

tough stance on immigration from Mexico

I am not sure if that is exactly true. Texans from border areas tell me that there was more or less free movement of people across the border well into late forties. You could just wade across Rio Grande and work on farm, mines, or open store if you had money. For example, mercury mines in Terlingua were worked almost exclusively by Mexicans. I do not know how many of these workers stayed in US, but I would guess many if not most. The difference from today perhaps is that there was next to no welfare, meaning that people who came did not come with the goal of sponging off others. So the immigration was smaller simply because it was the best and most industrious who immigrated. Also there was none of PC idiocy - you immigrated, learned language, and worked, instead of being told how people in whose country you came are oppressing you constantly and how they owe you something.

The Chisos Mine turned out to be the biggest mercury producer in the region, and at times, in the nation. In the town’s heyday of the 1910s and ’20s, as many as 2,000 people lived in Terlingua, which had a post office, company store, hotel, school, and dance pavilion. Most of the residents were Mexicans who had moved north to escape the violence of the Mexican Revolution and oppressive working conditions in Mexican mines. Finding work in Terlingua, they built simple homes of stacked limestone rocks and adobe mortar.

http://texashighways.com/history/item/8694-chasing-quicksilver-mercury-mining-history-in-beautiful-big-bend

16 bob2356 2018 Sep 15, 2:33pm

mell says

Doesn't change the fact that they are incredibly homogenous. People fought wars for all kind of today considered petty reasons back then. Also science was lesser evolved. However most of them are either Christian or Orthodox, Caucasian (later Asians and Indians) and sport similar traditions and values. Once those issues were resolved they learned to live with each other quickly in peace. Absolutely no comparison to the endless wars of Africans and middle-easterns. America is a success story of Europeans, Asians and Indians.

They learned to live together in piece when? You never heard of WWI or WWII?

Homogeneous? Would you like a list of a couple hundred different groups that were totally not homogeneous well into the 20th century and even today? Christian or Orthodox Caucasians? Maybe if your definition of Europe is France and England from the middle ages on. You do know the orthodox were attacked by the Catholics in the crusades don't you? Or that most of the orthodox were under the muslim ottoman empire for centuries.

Bd6r 2018 Sep 15, 2:42pm

mell says

However most of them are either Christian or Orthodox,

That surely helps, compared to immigration of individuals from kaboom cults from Arabian Peninsula.

Strategist 2018 Sep 15, 4:42pm

bob2356 says

They learned to live together in piece when? You never heard of WWI or WWII?

WTF. After WWII they have lived together in peace. Something magical about democracy.

curious2 2018 Sep 15, 5:24pm

marcus says

Don't you know that eventually, in the same way that those "others" melted in to the white group, all these other groups that you fear or disparage will be part of a larger group ?

No, and you don't know that either. You persist in seeing only skin deep, projecting your own constant racism onto everyone else. If you look at Islamic migration throughout history and around the world, you can see that Islamic Hijrah results in violent conquest. The "larger group" is forced to submit to Sharia, as per Islam. The followers of the dead charlatan Mohamad designed, fabricated, and optimized Islam for that purpose. It doesn't matter what color they are, but you can't see that, because your racism prevents you from seeing anything other than what color people are.

lostand confused 2018 Sep 15, 6:03pm

I think diversity is dangerous. however not diversity of color , religion etc. You have to have a shared belief, root for the same things, work for the common good. WE don't have that in America, dems hate America and all it stands for. Some recent immigrants are far more American than the liberlas.

Most Polish, German etc in 2-3 generations become Americans. So should others, else this country will be torn apart -if no common belief holds us togher. Ethnic beleifs, mono culture can be a holding point-but our country is already too diverse for that. A common bond of being American and what is good for America-not the unlimited immigration, always look out for the other guy.

Nowadays it is like putting a token colored guy or a trans and then sayng we achieved diversity-whatever that means? Pure hate for the poor white guy from the elft. back then blacks, women etc were not allowed by law -so some alws were needed-now it is almost reverse.

Strategist 2018 Sep 15, 6:52pm

lostand confused says

I think diversity is dangerous. however not diversity of color , religion etc. You have to have a shared belief, root for the same things, work for the common good. WE don't have that in America, dems hate America and all it stands for. Some recent immigrants are far more American than the liberlas.

We all share the same belief for democracy and freedom. We all want peace prosperity and progress for ourselves and our children. Those who hate democracy and the freedoms we enjoy are the ones who cause trouble. Radical Muslims, Communists, and the KKK to name a few.
The disagreements between Dems and Repubs is peaceful and normal. We cannot all agree on every single issue. We hash it out in the voting booth and move on.

Strategist 2018 Sep 15, 7:03pm

marcus says

That is, eventually the otherness people see in blacks or asians or people from india or the middle east, will disappear almost as much as the catholic versus protestant did.

Eventually yes. In the meantime, why put up with the hell caused by people who hate us, hurt us, and want to change the democratic system we have that made us Number UNO? Radical Muslims, Communists, and KKK hate our system and want to change it. My advise to:
Radical Muslims....Fuck off. Go back to your barbaric lands and kill all you want out there, not here.
Communists..........Fuck off. Go make your commie societies prosperous before you tell others what works.
KKK.......................Fuck off. Your descendants at some point will be the people you hate. Get some common sense.

MisdemeanorRebel 2018 Sep 15, 7:07pm

Cultural unity actually HELPS civilizations deal with other inequities/problems - class, sexual, religious, etc.

Imagine John Locke having to push for Religious Tolerance for the first time in a country that was 20% Paki, 50% English, 10% Scottish, and 30% Black.

People bring up Rome but the Romans insisted on a core of Roman Values that others flocked to. Venice was a City-State, not a large country. Extrapolating Trading City-State Republic to entire Countries isn't a great idea. And Venice still had rules for guests and residents that did not apply to native Venetians.

lostand confused 2018 Sep 15, 7:36pm

Strategist says

We cannot all agree on every single issue. We hash it out in the voting booth and move on.

Normally yes. But Obama weaponized the DOJ and FBI and this whole thing of impeachment and Russia collusiuon-when Hilalry colluded witht eh Russians and FBI sets a dangerous precedent. Protest is fien and good-but turn into violence and start involving law enforcement to take action against opposition-a big no.

That will be the death of democracy.

marcus 2018 Sep 15, 8:02pm

marcus says

Trump has actually caused a dramatic uptick in tribalism. Racists feel more comfortable being open about their racism, and some of the far lefties are doubling down on identity politics. A mistake yes, but it's happening, cause and effect.

CBOEtrader says

Provably wrong.

Go read the wikileaks where HRC backed extremists financed by Soros dressed like Bernie supporters and attack trump supporters, so as to smear both sides.

Trump finally made it ok not to give in to the left's weaponized istphobe-phobeist name calling. This is an amazing societal accomplishment that everyone should thank trump for.

The leftists, both the antifa extremists and CNN and even to a lesser extent the less active leftists like Marcus, are all going though stages of the extinction burst wherein simply accusing others of racism for wrongthink isnt good enough anymore.

My argument was simple. 2 statements. You didn't refute either one. You gave me a peek inside of the mind of a Trump supporter. But you didn't refute either of my statements.

26 bob2356 2018 Sep 15, 8:18pm

Strategist says

bob2356 says

They learned to live together in piece when? You never heard of WWI or WWII?

WTF. After WWII they have lived together in peace. Something magical about democracy.

Like the Yugoslavia thing?

27 bob2356 2018 Sep 15, 8:19pm

lostand confused says

Normally yes. But Obama weaponized the DOJ and FBI and this whole thing of impeachment and Russia collusiuon-when Hilalry colluded witht eh Russians and FBI sets a dangerous precedent. Protest is fien and good-but turn into violence and start involving law enforcement to take action against opposition-a big no.

Obama is out of office since jan 2017. You didn't get the memo? I guy called trump is president now and it's all better.

MisdemeanorRebel 2018 Sep 15, 8:21pm

bob2356 says

Obama is out of office since jan 2017. You didn't get the memo?

The NYT Times didn't at least until after they went to press about the Curtains.

Strategist 2018 Sep 15, 8:30pm

bob2356 says

Strategist says
bob2356 says

They learned to live together in piece when? You never heard of WWI or WWII?

WTF. After WWII they have lived together in peace. Something magical about democracy.

Like the Yugoslavia thing?

Yugoslavia was a true democracy?

Strategist 2018 Sep 15, 8:34pm

bob2356 says

Obama is out of office since jan 2017. You didn't get the memo?

I got the memo, attached to my monthly statement from my stock broker.
I was thrilled.

CBOEtrader 2018 Sep 15, 10:31pm

marcus says

You didn't refute either one.

I gave you evidence that contradicts your assertion, which is more evidence than you have.

curious2 2018 Sep 16, 2:20am

marcus says

My argument was simple. 2 statements.

Your "argument" was simply wrong. For example, BLM started in 2013, before Donald Trump had even declared his candidacy for POTUS, so you can't blame him for identity politics on the left. As for racists, you had been making some of the most racist posts on PatNet for years before Donald Trump became a candidate. For example, you don't want to import white Nazis from Europe, but you do want to import brown Muslim/Nazis from MENA, because they're brown and the MSM (per Tony Podesta, registered foreign agent for KSA) tell you the "intelligent" and "progressive" thing to do is to import them.

While trolling, you ignore serious questions. For example, if importing African Muslims is such a good idea, why doesn't KSA import them? Africa has millions of black Muslims who could help to 'diversify' (in your superficial exclusively color-based view) Arabia, and yet KSA doesn't import them. Why not? I know the answer, but do you have even the ability to read and analyze the question?

lostand confused 2018 Sep 16, 5:08am

bob2356 says

Obama is out of office since jan 2017. You didn't get the memo? I guy called trump is president now and it's all better

he is working on it. He selected an imbecile Jeff Sessions who is just stupid. But the director, deputy director of FBI have all been fired and several key palyers of the coup have been forced to leave. He is getting there. My hope is after his brush he too will get onboard with criminal justice reform. That is one area I do not like with trump-his alw and order stance. WE need law and order-but they should serve the people, not the other waya round.

34 bob2356 2018 Sep 16, 5:44am

lostand confused says

he is working on it. He selected an imbecile Jeff Sessions who is just stupid. But the director, deputy director of FBI have all been fired and several key palyers of the coup have been forced to leave. He is getting there. My hope is after his brush he too will get onboard with criminal justice reform. That is one area I do not like with trump-his alw and order stance. WE need law and order-but they should serve the people, not the other waya round.

What he is working on is emulating putin where the president orders and law enforcement does without those nice little legalities like the rule of law holding things up. I don't think I've ever liked anything Sessions stood for in the senate, but I am actually impressed at his standing by the rule of law at justice no matter how much it pisses off trump. who simply wants his own personal gestapo like all the other dictators he admires so much have.

Law and order is serving the people. Money launderers and tax evaders are going to jail. Are you saying they should be let off because they are friends of trump. Would that be serving the people?.

CBOEtrader 2018 Sep 16, 6:23am

bob2356 says

What he is working on is emulating putin where the president orders and law enforcement does without those nice little legalities like the rule of law holding things up.

Zero facts support this. You've been lied to.

lostand confused 2018 Sep 16, 6:55am

bob2356 says

What he is working on is emulating putin where the president orders and law enforcement does without those nice little legalities like the rule of law holding things up. I don't think I've ever liked anything Sessions stood for in the senate, but I am actually impressed at his standing by the rule of law at justice no matter how much it pisses off trump. who simply wants his own personal gestapo like all the other dictators he admires so much have.

Law and order is serving the people. Money launderers and tax evaders are going to jail. Are you saying they should be let off because they are friends of trump. Would that be serving the people?..

That is Obama who used the FBI like his own KGB/.
How is he emulating Putin, when the iG -an Obama appointee-recommended to terminate McCabe and called out Comey. The other fools ought to be in jail.
Manafort is a moneylauderer and tax evader-yes-but who did he work for when he did those crimes-Podestas. Trump fired manafort after he found out-Clinton kept the Podesta brother till the very end?

Clinton -how much Russian money cma ethrough her foundation-while she was at the state dept. She presented the reset button. Her husband made speech money in Russia. She paid millions to egt the Russian dossier that was used by the corrupt FBI udner Obama. Now that si laudering. Sessions is a scared wirless fool-after mid-terms Trump will geta real AG.

If Manafort is guilty-then his boss the Podesta will have to be looke dat-you don't get the underling and elave the boss alone. Already the southern NY district is looking at Obama white house council because eManafort gave him 4 million-this si going to get ugly- and just like metoo will nsare democrats.

Dems are too dumb-people who live in glas shouses and all. Once the podestas are ensnared-you think they care about the Clintons and their stupid foundation? Justw ait till the mid-terms.

of course you liberlas like session now-whatever Trump likes you hate and vice versa
The only thing that is like Putin is your boy Obama using the FBI like the KGB, or whateve rit si called now. Trump will be the greatest civil right icon of our time and Obama the biggest authoritarian, power hungry greedy pig of our time.

Booger 2018 Sep 16, 7:07am

Strategist 2018 Sep 16, 8:22am

I think Blacks are more racist than Whites.

39 bob2356 2018 Sep 16, 8:36am

CBOEtrader says

Zero facts support this. You've been lied to.

ROFLOL. so trump lied to me with his tweets. If you say so.,

40 mell 2018 Sep 16, 9:24am

bob2356 says

Strategist says
bob2356 says

They learned to live together in piece when? You never heard of WWI or WWII?

WTF. After WWII they have lived together in peace. Something magical about democracy.

Like the Yugoslavia thing?

Small kerfluffles compared to the neverending wars in Africa and the middle-East and wherever they migrate. Note that the Albania Kosovo conflict was already a middle eastern conflict brought to Europe. Plus the eastern European conflicts were mostly a result of communism/leftoids suppressing any identity for too long and keeping regions together by force that didn't necessarily belong, so there was some delayed release of tensions. At the end of the day Europe and the US are prime examples of peaceful coexistence of most Caucasians. No need to bring assholes into the countries that can't live by our rules.

Strategist 2018 Sep 16, 11:29am

bob2356 says

Strategist says
bob2356 says

They learned to live together in piece when? You never heard of WWI or WWII?

WTF. After WWII they have lived together in peace. Something magical about democracy.

Like the Yugoslavia thing?

Yugoslavia was a democracy?

CBOEtrader 2018 Sep 16, 11:58am

bob2356 says

CBOEtrader says

Zero facts support this. You've been lied to.

ROFLOL. so trump lied to me with his tweets. If you say so.,

Show us his tweet where he says he will be a tyrant. You are living in a fantasy Bob.

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