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Trump: Saudi crown prince 'totally denied any knowledge' of what happened to Jamal Khashoggi


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2018 Oct 16, 2:29pm   17,198 views  181 comments

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Imagine if Obama had done that. All trumpturds will be up in arms. But it is ok since tRump, not Obama is kissing Saudi ass.

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94   CBOEtrader   2018 Oct 20, 3:21am  

Goran_K says
Iran and Afghanistan were beautiful countries before hardline Islamist took over.


We arent exactly innocent in that process.

Why has our deep state been pushing for Islamism for 40+ years?
95   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 8:40am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Nope, not whataboutism


lol. It's the definition of whataboutism.

Any time someone questions a Trump policy--the whataboutism answer is, but, but, but what about Obama.

Or when someone questions the Saudis murdering a journalist in their embassy--the whataboutism answer is but, but, but what about Iran.
96   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 8:44am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Bob, why are you and tatupu running away from answering my questions?

I'm not answering any more of your loaded questions until you start answering mine.


Loaded question?? lol. All Bob asked was for you to provide ANY evidence backing your ridiculous conspiracy theory about who paid for Obama's education. You made this claim--is it that hard to show why you said it?

I know the goal is to distract from the murder of a journalist by any means necessary, but let's try to stay on topic.
97   Strategist   2018 Oct 20, 9:47am  

Aphroman says


You will destroy the Shiites.
98   Goran_K   2018 Oct 20, 9:49am  

CBOEtrader says
Goran_K says
Iran and Afghanistan were beautiful countries before hardline Islamist took over.


We arent exactly innocent in that process.

Why has our deep state been pushing for Islamism for 40+ years?


Probably because instability in the Middle East makes it weaker and less resistant to the West wishes politically.

Bottom line, for me at least, Islam is cancer and the left/Democrats think they can tame it and use Islam as an ally. They are dead fucking wrong. Islam is using the left to get what they want, but once they do, they will throw democrats off buildings just as easily in Michigan as they did in Syria.
99   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 10:14am  

Goran_K says
Bottom line, for me at least, Islam is cancer and the left/Democrats think they can tame it and use Islam as an ally. They are dead fucking wrong. Islam is using the left to get what they want, but once they do, they will throw democrats off buildings just as easily in Michigan as they did in Syria.


Uh--Trump is the one who is trying to make Saudi an ally now. Last I checked they are the #1 backer of fundamentalist Islam and terrorism. If anyone is trying to use Islam as an ally it's Trump.
100   Patrick   2018 Oct 20, 10:18am  

tatupu70 says
Trump is the one who is trying to make Saudi an ally now


Uh, Saudi Arabia has been an "ally" for quite a while, and every single US president has been complicit in Saudi crimes:



I was hoping Trump would be different, but no.

At least we still have many yuge and disruptive wins by having Trump as our president: record low jobs, stock market highs, lowered tensions with N. Korea, some real pushback against oppressive political correctness, etc.
101   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 10:23am  

I don't want to argue over Trump's accomplishments--I think that's been done to death.

I just found it ironic that a poster was talking about how Dems are trying to make allies with Islam while Trump is busy covering up a murder for Saudi Arabia.
102   Goran_K   2018 Oct 20, 10:23am  

tatupu70 says
Trump is busy covering up a murder for Saudi Arabia.


Covering up for Saudi arabia? That's quite a stretch.
103   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 10:26am  

Goran_K says

Covering up for Saudi arabia? That's quite a stretch.


Perhaps you need to catch up on the news?
104   Goran_K   2018 Oct 20, 10:27am  

tatupu70 says
Perhaps you need to catch up on the news?


Which would prove that Trump is covering up a murder by Saudis?

Maybe you should stop watching MSM news?
105   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 10:28am  

Goran_K says

Which would prove that Trump is covering up a murder by Saudis?


yep
106   Goran_K   2018 Oct 20, 10:28am  

haha, no.
108   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 12:06pm  

Aphroman says
Why is Trump covering up the murder?


109   Goran_K   2018 Oct 20, 12:10pm  

Aphroman says
Goran_K says
tatupu70 says
Perhaps you need to catch up on the news?


Which would prove that Trump is covering up a murder by Saudis?

Maybe you should stop watching MSM news?


Why is Trump covering up the murder?


He’s doing no such thing.

Funny thing is the guy who got gutted and chopped up was a loud mouth lefty who thought he could talk shit to Saudi princes without any consequences.

Guess he learned the hard way. lol
110   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 12:14pm  

Goran_K says
Funny thing is the guy who got gutted and chopped up was a loud mouth lefty who thought he could talk shit to Saudi princes without any consequences.

Guess he learned the hard way. lol


I'm glad you think murder is funny.
111   Strategist   2018 Oct 20, 12:20pm  

tatupu70 says
I just found it ironic that a poster was talking about how Dems are trying to make allies with Islam while Trump is busy covering up a murder for Saudi Arabia.


Aphroman says
Why is Trump covering up the murder?


My dear naive friends. Do you know cops and courts go easy on cold blooded criminals if they squeal on their friends?
Trump is the cop.
Saudi is the murderer.
Saudi friends are the Islamists.
So simple.
112   Goran_K   2018 Oct 20, 12:20pm  

Aphroman says
Goran_K says
Aphroman says
Goran_K says
tatupu70 says
Perhaps you need to catch up on the news?


Which would prove that Trump is covering up a murder by Saudis?

Maybe you should stop watching MSM news?


Why is Trump covering up the murder?


He’s doing no such thing.

Funny thing is the guy who got gutted and chopped up was a loud mouth lefty who thought he could talk shit to Saudi princes without any consequences.

Guess he learned the hard way. lol


I thought Trump said he believed Saudi Arabia that they didn’t murder him?


His exact words were “the crown prince had denied any knowledge of the murder” and Pompeo said he would wait to make a decision about the incident until Saudi Arabian officials completed their investigation.

Wow, sounds like Trump is totally advocating for murder!!!!!!! engage full TDS
113   Goran_K   2018 Oct 20, 12:22pm  

tatupu70 says
Goran_K says
Funny thing is the guy who got gutted and chopped up was a loud mouth lefty who thought he could talk shit to Saudi princes without any consequences.

Guess he learned the hard way. lol


I'm glad you think murder is funny.


Oh no his murder sucked. But his path there is funny in its stupidity. I wouldn’t mouth off about the Saudi royalty as a lefty journalist unless I was packing heat and protected by security 24/7. Even then the odds would still be death.
114   Strategist   2018 Oct 20, 12:25pm  

tatupu70 says
I'm glad you think murder is funny.


Did you read about how Obama murdered Osama?
It was so cool.
115   Goran_K   2018 Oct 20, 12:26pm  

Strategist says
tatupu70 says
I'm glad you think murder is funny.


Did you read about how Obama murdered Osama?
It was so cool.


He got off easy. Two shots to the head from an HK556? They should have gone Saudi embassy on him. Oh well.
116   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 12:30pm  

Strategist says

Did you read about how Obama murdered Osama?
It was so cool.


You're comparing the murder of a Washington Post journalist with the military killing the leader of Al Qaeda who had killed thousands of Americans?
117   Strategist   2018 Oct 20, 12:34pm  

Goran_K says
He got off easy. Two shots to the head from an HK556? They should have gone Saudi embassy on him. Oh well.


Imagine how much information we could have gotten out of Osama, if only we were willing to torture him. We will never know how many lives could have been saved if we knew everything Osama knew. Damn Obama, and his nice guy style.
118   Strategist   2018 Oct 20, 12:35pm  

tatupu70 says
Strategist says

Did you read about how Obama murdered Osama?
It was so cool.


You're comparing the murder of a Washington Post journalist with the military killing the leader of Al Qaeda who had killed thousands of Americans?


Aahhhhh, so now it's OK to murder.
119   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 12:41pm  

Strategist says

Aahhhhh, so now it's OK to murder.


Yes, there are laws dictating when the US may kill. They were followed in the case of Bin Laden.

I've seen no such justification from the Saudi government.
120   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 12:41pm  

Strategist says

Imagine how much information we could have gotten out of Osama, if only we were willing to torture him


Likely nothing. Torture has been shown to be highly ineffective.
121   Goran_K   2018 Oct 20, 12:43pm  

tatupu70 says
I've seen no such justification from the Saudi government.


Trumps fault
122   Goran_K   2018 Oct 20, 12:43pm  

tatupu70 says
Strategist says

Imagine how much information we could have gotten out of Osama, if only we were willing to torture him


Likely nothing. Torture has been shown to be highly ineffective.


Guantanamo Bay and water boarding experts disagree.
123   Strategist   2018 Oct 20, 12:48pm  

tatupu70 says
Strategist says

Aahhhhh, so now it's OK to murder.


Yes, there are laws dictating when the US may kill. They were followed in the case of Bin Laden.

I've seen no such justification from the Saudi government.


Since when do the Saudis follow our laws?
Obama watched a lot of murders by the Saudis. He did nothing, and neither did his supporters. My, what a difference an election makes.
124   Strategist   2018 Oct 20, 12:50pm  

tatupu70 says
Strategist says

Imagine how much information we could have gotten out of Osama, if only we were willing to torture him


Likely nothing. Torture has been shown to be highly ineffective.


You mean Osama would never reveal secrets if he was tortured enough? ROFL.
125   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 12:51pm  

Strategist says

You mean Osama would never reveal secrets if he was tortured enough? ROFL.


Yep--that's what I mean.. What usually happens is terrorists lie during torture.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-fbi-interrogator-torture-ineffective/
https://www.newsweek.com/2016/05/20/science-shows-torture-doesnt-work-456854.html
126   Bd6r   2018 Oct 20, 1:03pm  

Strategist says
Imagine how much information we could have gotten out of Osama, if only we were willing to torture him. We will never know how many lives could have been saved if we knew everything Osama knew. Damn Obama, and his nice guy style.

There is no reason for us become like 7th-century barbarians from the desert. Start doing things like they do, and soon become one of them.
127   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 20, 1:32pm  

tatupu70 says
Loaded question?? lol. All Bob asked was for you to provide ANY evidence backing your ridiculous conspiracy theory about who paid for Obama's education. You made this claim--is it that hard to show why you said it?

I know the goal is to distract from the murder of a journalist by any means necessary, but let's try to stay on topic.

Sorry, I've been asking several questions since the beginning of the thread.

Are you going to answer why Obama did not push any penalties - nor was it demanded of him by Politicians and the Media - when Saudi Arabia executed multiple gays and witches in 2011 and other instances in the Heart of his Presidency?
https://edition.cnn.com/2011/12/13/world/meast/saudi-arabia-beheading/index.html

Why was the Iran Deal made when Iran tortures and executes gays and protesters?
Hassan Afshar, 19, was hanged in Arak Prison in Iran's Markazi Province on July 18, after he was convicted of "forced male-to-male anal intercourse" (‘lavat-e be onf’) in early 2015, the NGO said in a statement Tuesday.

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/Iran-executes-gay-teenager-in-violation-of-international-law-463234

What penalties did Erdogan receive for imprisoning more journalists than any country on Earth, including China?
https://cpj.org/reports/2017/12/journalists-prison-jail-record-number-turkey-china-egypt.php

Yet a Muslim Brotherhood Shill gets whacked, then the Failed Neoliberal Establishment demands instant action!

Until I get answers to these questions, I'm not answering questions that came after mine.

And yes, I have lots of evidence that bin Talal and other Muslim Brotherhood symps arranged money for Obama and others to study, and way beyond that, even. But it's not going up until I get answers to the questions you're dodging.

Indeed, i think I've asked it in other threads, The Silence is Deafening
128   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 20, 1:41pm  

tatupu70 says
Any time someone questions a Trump policy--the whataboutism answer is, but, but, but what about Obama.

Or when someone questions the Saudis murdering a journalist in their embassy--the whataboutism answer is but, but, but what about Iran.


Nope.

When the Media and Politicians call for Saudi Arabia to be sanctioned and/or the Leader to step down over the Murder of a Terrorist sympathizer....

But embraced the Iran Deal even though Iran was torturing (inc. forced sex changes) and executing Gays and Protesters before and after it was made.

That is:

Whataboutery?
But rather, Hypocrisy of the highest order

That, and Sympathy for the Muslim Brotherhood is rampant at State and in some Intel circles.
129   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 20, 1:45pm  

tatupu70 says
I'm glad you think murder is funny.


Not crying over Terrorist Shills, the kind who are friends with OBL, who backed the brutal Algerian Islamists back in the 90s by setting up a "Democratic Organization", who back Hamas and apologize for Jihadis Worldwide is pretty normal.

The same people who flip out that a paid shill was executed, don't seem worried about the frequent execution of gays and witches and protesters in Iran or Saudi Arabia or World Record Imprisonment of Journalists in Turkey, all of a sudden are demanding "Justice" over a Terrorist Shill being whacked.
130   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 1:48pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Murder of a Terrorist sympathizer....


This is the typical victim blaming. I've seen nothing to tie Khashoggi to terrorism. (As opposed to the Saudi Royal Family, which is well known to be the #1 funder of terrorism)

There is nothing remotely hypocritical about making a nuclear disarmament deal and also denouncing state sanctioned murder of journalists who dare criticize a State Government.

Still waiting on any evidence of the folks that paid for Obama's education....
131   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 20, 1:49pm  

tatupu70 says
You're comparing the murder of a Washington Post journalist with the military killing the leader of Al Qaeda who had killed thousands of Americans?



Sure. The former enabled the latter, lifelong friends, too.

Khashoggi was the PR guy for Radical Islamism. There's a reason the Diplo/Intel community's paper of record hired him in 2017.
132   tatupu70   2018 Oct 20, 1:50pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Sure. The former enabled the latter, lifelong friends, too.

Khashoggi was the PR guy for Radical Islamism. There's a reason the Diplo/Intel community's paper of record hired him in 2017.


I'm sure you'll provide evidence of this at the same time you show evidence of the folks who supposedly paid for Obama's education.
133   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 20, 1:50pm  

Goran_K says
His exact words were “the crown prince had denied any knowledge of the murder” and Pompeo said he would wait to make a decision about the incident until Saudi Arabian officials completed their investigation.


Pompeo also flew between Turkey and Saudi Arabia and Trump said they'll wait until all the investigations (US, Turkey, SA) are over.

Good, no reason to let the Deep State rush things like they did with Libya and Syria.

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