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seems that Saudi royalty ass will be sore from so much kissing.

Nobody but nobody can kiss dictators, despots and maniacs asses like the current Prez. He truly is setting a bar that will be near impossible to clear in brown nosing the most despicable rulers in the world. Makes me proud to be a merican. #winning

rdm says

Nobody but nobody can kiss dictators, despots and maniacs asses like the current Prez. He truly is setting a bar that will be near impossible to clear in brown nosing the most despicable rulers in the world. Makes me proud to be a merican. #winning

Trump threatens and kisses them at the same time. Obama kissed and pleaded with them at the same time.
Obama's strategy was a failure. Trumps strategy is making successful inroads.
Why support a losing strategy?

Amazing, the Press has loved Saudi Arabia, seldom criticized it no matter how many witches and gays they hanged, but the moment the ruler starts letting women drive and allowing them to attend sporting events and distancing himself from Political Islam, the press is mad - because somebody (maybe him, maybe not) killed a friend of Osama bin Laden and a Muslim Brotherhood member.

It's almost as if the Deep State and their favorite Newspaper want to protect the Muslim Brotherhood. Kind of like how they all loved the Muslim Brotherhood as "reformers" in Egypt a few years ago under Obomber.

Boy, Erdogan sure redeemed himself in the eyes of Journalists fast. How many presses did he shut down and journalists imprison over the past few years? Not to mention all those that "disappeared" permanently.

rdm says

Nobody but nobody can kiss dictators, despots and maniacs asses like the current Prez. He truly is setting a bar that will be near impossible to clear in brown nosing the most despicable rulers in the world. Makes me proud to be a merican. #winning

Funny, I remember it was the Democrats telling me the USSR was gonna be around a long time and we had to get along and ignore some of their flaws --- in 1988.

That the Sandinistas were good people who needed to suspend democracy to advance the cause of the PEE-PLE!
https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-bernie-sanders-thought-castro-and-the-sandinistas-could-teach-america-a-lesson

And that we didn't need to topple Saddam, who gassed thousands of Kurds among many other atrocities.

Now these same people are mad at Trump because maybe the Ruler of Saudi Arabia chopped up an Islamist and Trump is talking with a nuclear armed dictator.

Weird! It's almost as if Democratic policies are incomprehensibly incoherent and seemingly dependent on domestic policy.

Seems to me every time Trump makes inroads with the exiled countries that America and the EU always thumbed their noses at.
They do really great, but then for no apparent reason they go and kill someone. And if that don't work the first time they go and kill another.


Hillary showed us how international men of mystery are taken out. A Liberal somewhere wants them out of the Way. Like Sidney Blumenthal then someone like Hillary rubber stamps it. Had they murdered Kadaffi under Trump they would have framed one of Trump's newest peace brokerage recipients for it.

The Globalist like the Liberals have a very shallow book they play from.

The Left has been killing people to start wars going back to WWI it was how the Great War and WWII was started.
Carter destabilized Iran and gave us that Dumpster fire.

Nothing but lies all of it. Kim, Putin nor Prince Saud have any reason to kill people on foreign soil when they are getting everything politically they have wanted for over 40 years.

Tenpoundbass says

Had they murdered Kadaffi under Trump they would have framed one of Trump's newest peace brokerage recipients for it.

Yeah, funny how Ghaddafyi was grovelling at our feet, paid for all his terror, did everything we asked of him.

And then Hillary-Obama had him executed in the most cruel fashion.

"We Came We Saw He Died" she bragged

www.FmIRYvJQeHM

The Media was heaping praise on Obama and Hillary for getting rid of him. Seven 7 years later and the country is still in a civil war with Islamists after getting rid of the Big Cheese.

Yet MbS kills this radical Islamist propagandist and all of a sudden it's "Horrific Death! Must resign!"

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Tenpoundbass says

Had they murdered Kadaffi under Trump they would have framed one of Trump's newest peace brokerage recipients for it.

Yeah, funny how Ghaddafyi was grovelling at our feet, paid for all his terror, did everything we asked of him.

And then Hillary-Obama had him executed in the most cruel fashion.

The strategy always was to bring democracy to the Islamic world. Very foolish strategy, as no Muslim country is ready for democracy. Given a chance, they end up voting to replace democracy with Islam, leading to Islamic radicals taking control. It happens every time, putting us back to square one.
The only strategy that can work is to control them with our puppets, until they are ready for democracy. We don't want to rule them, we don't want to steal their oil, we just want them to be a civilized democracy.

Strategist says

The strategy always was to bring democracy to the Islamic world. Very foolish strategy, as no Muslim country is ready for democracy. Given a chance, they end up voting to replace democracy with Islam, leading to Islamic radicals taking control. It happens every time, putting us back to square one.

You got it. Here is a great piece that has a run down on what Khashoggi stood for - something like a Sunni Version of the Iranian Government.

Khashoggi the “reformer”

Jamal Khashoggi was never a reformer in the sense that he wanted to advance individual rights and overall freedoms in the Middle East. In fact, all of the evidence points to the reality that he was a regressive thinker and a dedicated Islamist who wanted to move Saudi Arabia to a more cleric-led society.

As an early ally to al Qaeda founders Osama Bin Laden and Abdullah Azzam, Khashoggi has been an Islamist for decades. While he may have disagreed with his old friend Bin Laden about how to impose an Islamic state on the world, the two shared the same endgame.

While Bin Laden preferred a much more aggressive strategy, Khashoggi appeared to be a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood model of governance advanced by groups like Hamas and the short-lived Muslim Brotherhood regime in Egypt.

Both Hamas and the Morsi regime in Egypt were elected through the democratic process. Yet almost immediately after seizing power, the Brotherhood-aligned groups sought to impose extra-constitutional measures that would tighten their grip on power and ensure that there would never be another election.

Khashoggi’s “democracy” project is nothing more than a facade that would allow for the empowerment of Islamist actors. For the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies, history shows us that their first victorious election campaign quickly becomes the last election.

Khashoggi the “man of peace”

Today’s Middle East reform movements are largely backed by individuals and leaders who have rejected calls for perpetual Islamist warfare. Those in the U.S.-allied reformer camp — such as Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El Sisi, and UAE Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed — have preferred to focus on bolstering patriotism, combatting Islamism, pursuing secularization and modernization, and encouraging foreign and domestic entrepreneurism and investments.

The “soft-spoken” Khashoggi, on the other hand, has sought to drag the Islamic world into endless conflict.

And as is typical for many Islamists, Jamal Khashoggi had a serious bloodlust when it came to violence against the state of Israel. He expressed these violent aims in a 2014 piece for the Muslim Brotherhood-tied Middle East Monitor, in which he wrote that he hoped one day Islamic nations would join the U.S.-designated terrorist group Hamas in its campaign to destroy Israel. In another piece he wrote that year, Khashoggi shamed Arab states for not supporting the jihadi terror group.

More:
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/what-the-media-isnt-telling-you-about-the-jamal-khashoggi-affair/

Throw Khashoggi down the well.

Strategist says

The strategy always was to bring democracy to the Islamic world. Very foolish strategy,

All of their strategies ended in dismal failure, Trump's success rate has been damn near 100%, so Trump get's 100% of the Trust. Globalists get Squat, Zilch they don't get Jack Shit when it comes to Trust. The EU as a whole is suspect for every Murder the Kim tied murders, the Putin tied Murders and now the house of Saud murders.

Trumptards only knows how to circle-jerk.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Amazing, the Press has loved Saudi Arabia, seldom criticized it no matter how many witches and gays they hanged, but the moment the ruler starts letting women drive and allowing them to attend sporting events and distancing himself from Political Islam, the press is mad - because somebody (maybe him, maybe not) killed a friend of Osama bin Laden and a Muslim Brotherhood member.

lol-- let's be clear here. The leader of Saudi Arabia tortured and murdered a journalist that was spreading the truth about his regime.

That's what happened. MBS didn't like someone piercing the narrative of "reform" in Saudi Arabia so he had him executed. period.

tatupu70 says

lol-- let's be clear here. The leader of Saudi Arabia tortured and murdered a journalist that was spreading the truth about his regime.

That's what happened. MBS didn't like someone piercing the narrative of "reform" in Saudi Arabia so he had him executed. period.

That is normal in Saudi and other Islamic countries. No freedom of speech. Lots of innocent people have had their heads chopped off for daring to exercise freedom of speech. Why all the fuss, now?

Strategist says

Why all the fuss, now?

There should always be fuss if a supposed ally murders a journalist.

tatupu70 says

lol-- let's be clear here. The leader of Saudi Arabia tortured and murdered a journalist that was spreading the truth about his regime.

Khashoggi was a propagandist who worked for the Middle East Monitor, a Muslim Brotherhood affiliated publication. He was belatedly given a job at the WaPo last year, probably on the world of Muslim-Brotherhood=democracy types in the "Intel Community".

Do you deny Khashoggi's connections to the Muslim Brotherhood and OBL?

tatupu70 says

There should always be fuss if a supposed ally murders a journalist.

Did Turkey get suspended from NATO when Erdogan imprisoned scores of journalists and shut down dozens of media outlets? 6 of them got life in prison, by the way, just a few months ago.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/09/world/europe/turkey-journalists-prison-terrorism.html

What punishment do you think Erdogan deserves for his war on the Free Press in Turkey?

No country on Earth jails more journalists than Turkey.
https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-06-28/turkey-jails-more-journalists-any-other-nation-those-detention-are-all-terrorists
https://cpj.org/reports/2017/12/journalists-prison-jail-record-number-turkey-china-egypt.php