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Can anyone refute this guy's argument against Democrat open border immigration?
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2018 Nov 29, 8:37am 11,126 views 74 comments
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Goran_K
2018 Nov 30, 1:13pm
Goran_K
2018 Nov 30, 1:13pm
Herdingcats says
When you get punched in the head 1 time, you get hurt.
When you get punched in the head 3 times, you get hurt.
You're playing semantics (typical troll tactic as you well know tatupu).
You have a small hole in a dam, you have a leak.
You have a big hole in a dam, you have a bigger leak.
Same effect, just a gradation.
How can it be the same effect if a higher volumes of people cross the border under an open border policy?
When you get punched in the head 1 time, you get hurt.
When you get punched in the head 3 times, you get hurt.
You're playing semantics (typical troll tactic as you well know tatupu).
You have a small hole in a dam, you have a leak.
You have a big hole in a dam, you have a bigger leak.
Same effect, just a gradation.
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Sunnyvale94087
2018 Dec 1, 1:32pm
Herdingcats says
Easy answer: Change the way illegals are counted.
When you say "less" are you referring to the quality of the illegals? If so it should be "lesser." If you are referring to a countable quantity of illegals then the correct word is "fewer."
Why was there less illegals in the US in 2016 than in 2008 if Democrats support an open border policy?
Easy answer: Change the way illegals are counted.
When you say "less" are you referring to the quality of the illegals? If so it should be "lesser." If you are referring to a countable quantity of illegals then the correct word is "fewer."
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Onvacation
2018 Dec 2, 8:21am
Onvacation
2018 Dec 2, 8:21am
Herdingcats says
But iwog was a better speller.
Does ICE = boarder patrol? What do sectuary cities have to do with open boarders? Or what does SF registering illegals to vote for education issues at we're their legal kids go to school have to do with open boarders?
But iwog was a better speller.
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Onvacation
2018 Dec 2, 9:49am
Onvacation
2018 Dec 2, 9:49am
Herdingcats says
Too busy bailing out the banks and subsidizing the insurance companies.
why didn't the Democrats do it in 2008-2010 when they had control of Congress
Too busy bailing out the banks and subsidizing the insurance companies.
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MrMagic
2018 Dec 2, 10:46am
MrMagic
2018 Dec 2, 10:46am
Herdingcats says
How do you know that for sure? That article is basing it on "Estimates". If they entered illegally and weren't caught, how does anyone know they're here? Is Pew good at counting ghosts?
Does Pew call all these illegals on their cell phones to ask them if they are in the country illegally?
The number of unauthorized immigrants living in the United States was lower in 2016 than at any time since 2004. If the Democrats really truly wanted an open border policy why did the amount of illegals drop so drastically under Obama?
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
How do you know that for sure? That article is basing it on "Estimates". If they entered illegally and weren't caught, how does anyone know they're here? Is Pew good at counting ghosts?
Does Pew call all these illegals on their cell phones to ask them if they are in the country illegally?
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Sunnyvale94087
2018 Dec 2, 12:24pm
Herdingcats says
And it's "were" not "was" in your original. :-)
Also above I saw that I added an e to sat. I meant "sat on their hands .
And it's "were" not "was" in your original. :-)
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Sunnyvale94087
2018 Dec 2, 12:27pm
Herdingcats says
(1) Change how you count illegals. Or don't count them at all, for that matter.
(2) More agents, but not allowed to do their job effectively. Obama agents are merely handing out bottles of water and seeing to it that illegals get on the right bus headed towards their illegal relatives. Much more effective would be 1/4 the number of agents that are allowed to shoot on sight.
I realize the above response is "embellished," but you get the point.
So no response to the fact that there was fewer illegal aliens at the end of Obama's term than at the start?
How about the fact that the amount of ICE agents increased during Obama's term. Wouldn't one expect the amount of agents to decrease if as was opined above the democrats wanted to abolish ICE?
(1) Change how you count illegals. Or don't count them at all, for that matter.
(2) More agents, but not allowed to do their job effectively. Obama agents are merely handing out bottles of water and seeing to it that illegals get on the right bus headed towards their illegal relatives. Much more effective would be 1/4 the number of agents that are allowed to shoot on sight.
I realize the above response is "embellished," but you get the point.
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komputodo
2018 Dec 2, 2:36pm
komputodo
2018 Dec 2, 2:36pm
No but they really need to reform the illegal immigrant policy in regards to the illegals that have several years working in the USA first. How about making the illegals legal by having them fingerprinted, retinal scans or whatever and having them agree to sign documents stating that they will not apply for any govt economic programs and also charge them a fee which can be paid in payments...When they have payed in full, they receive a work permit and be on the road to becoming a legal citizen if they follow the rules. This way there is no worry that they are going to just live off of welfare
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HeadSet
2018 Dec 2, 2:46pm
HeadSet
2018 Dec 2, 2:46pm
komputodo says
Why not just follow the procedures for legal immigration? Why cater to people who cut in line?
No but they really need to reform the illegal immigrant policy in regards to the illegals that have several years working in the USA first. How about making the illegals legal by having them fingerprinted, retinal scans or whatever and having them agree to sign documents stating that they will not apply for any govt economic programs and also charge them a fee which can be paid in payments...When they have payed in full, they receive a work permit and be on the road to becoming a legal citizen if they follow the rules. This way there is no worry that they are going to just live off of welfare
Why not just follow the procedures for legal immigration? Why cater to people who cut in line?
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If so I'd like to hear the argument.