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2018 Dec 2, 2:56am   15,455 views  127 comments

by MisdemeanorRebel   ➕follow (13)   💰tip   ignore  

Looks like a bit of a mess right now.

Also looks like the Diverse "New French" Inhabitants of Paris are having a "Blast.
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I hear Macron is envious of Trump, with just a 25% approval rating

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23   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Dec 3, 11:35am  

The issue that triggered the protests is diesel gas tax. Diesel car engines are used a lot in Europe & many European constructors are good at making them. This was encouraged by governments with lower taxes and lower prices in gas stations. (also to avoid taxing trucking too much). Diesel engines generally consume less gas, so they were seen as good for some time. However with the Volkswagen cheating scandal, it was realized that these engines create a lot of soot/particles pollution that is even more toxic than regular gas pollution.
So taxes on diesel in France have soared recently to the point prices for diesel are now in some cases higher than regular gas.
A lot of people who were getting a good deal are getting crushed and aren't happy about it.

And in the background, France is getting the globalist treatment where the lowest 60% of the population is converging fast with semi-slave labors in poor countries, while dealing with high immigration. At the same time, the overdeveloped welfare system is out of hand, and rather than cutting spending (which is equally unpopular) successive governments have balanced things out by taxing like crazy.

No wonder people aren't happy.
24   curious2   2018 Dec 3, 11:56am  

Heraclitusstudent says
No wonder people aren't happy.


I liked your analysis of the economic situation and the effect of the petroleum diesel fuel tax change.

DASKAA says
Not sure what Muslims have to do with anything.


They are a major part of the anti-France axis (anarchists, etc.) that makes the difference between the riots in Paris and the peaceful protests in many places across France. Many French motorists are angry about the taxes and the economic situation as described above by Heraclitusstudent, but they are not burning their own country. If you look at the guy in the OP photo, standing on a smashed and burning police car, you can see an example of why only some parts of France are burning.

Here is an update about rioting elsewhere, especially Marseille which has a large Muslim population, and a bystander was killed in her apartment:

"Meanwhile in Marseille, there was looting by protesters as several demonstrations took place throughout Saturday, with the situation descending into violence at the end of the day.

A total of 21 people were arrested, according to the police headquarters for offenses which included the looting of a phone shop and a jewelry store, as well as setting fire to a police vehicle.

At the city's Saint-Charles train station the Fnac store was vandalized and the Christmas decorations ripped off by "rioters who did not have yellow vests," said a spokesperson for French railway operator SNCF to AFP.
***
Later there were clashes in the Old Port area between protesters and the police who responded with tear gas.

According to the police in Marseille, the various demonstrators were made up of 300 yellow vests, 100 bikers and about 350 protesters called to action by the hard left CGT union to demand a change in government policy. [French police are generally not allowed to say "Muslims" in this context, but probably the largest groups, i.e. 350 "hard left" and 300 "yellow vests" (and probably black balaclavas) included a substantial Muslim component.]

There were also a few thousand people demonstrating against insanitary housing after two apartment blocks collapsed in Marseille on November 5th, highlighting the issue of unsafe housing in the city's impoverished [mostly Muslim] areas.
"

Notice they are burning Christmas trees:



Having said that, there are also many "right-wing" protesters, and fights among "yellow vest" protesters of presumably different ideologies, and isolated reports of homophobic and racist attacks.
26   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Dec 3, 3:38pm  

curious2 says
The fault for importing Muslims begins partly with Charles de Gaulle, who invested some of his prestige in enacting the Constitution of the 5th Republic, which gave Algeria 70 seats in the French National Assembly, and reserved 2/3 of those for Muslims.


de Gaulle was as very strange man.

Algeria owes France about a trillion in reparations from 1000 years of piracy and slavery, I figure.

I don't know enough about the hand over of Algeria, other than Socialists and Arabs used extreme terrorism like blowing up cafes and such.
27   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Dec 3, 3:46pm  

curious2 says
Here is an update about rioting elsewhere, especially Marseille which has a large Muslim population, and a bystander was killed in her apartment:


Seine-Saint-Denis and the notorious Aubervilliers are hotbeds of the rioting. Aubervilliers had a huge "Beat and Rob the Chinese" campaign because Chinese were believed to carry cash.
28   Strategist   2018 Dec 3, 5:22pm  

curious2 says


The guy to the left looks like a Muslim to me.
30   Rin   2018 Dec 3, 6:43pm  

Quebec City is all the French that I need ...



With its escorts ...

32   Strategist   2018 Dec 3, 8:24pm  

Rin says
With its escorts ...



Rin, I have a stupid question. Does hiring escorts include sex as a given?
33   Rin   2018 Dec 4, 5:58am  

Strategist says
Rin, I have a stupid question. Does hiring escorts include sex as a given?


In Quebec, yes. In the United States of America, I don't know.
34   zzyzzx   2018 Dec 4, 9:58am  

Rin says


How much for the one above?
35   fdhfoiehfeoi   2018 Dec 4, 10:50am  

Looks like they pulled back the carbon tax.
36   Rin   2018 Dec 4, 12:25pm  

zzyzzx says
How much for the one above?


About $200 CAD per hour
37   Booger   2018 Dec 4, 1:56pm  

Rin says
zzyzzx says
How much for the one above?


About $200 CAD per hour


Around $150 at current exchange rates.
38   krc   2018 Dec 4, 8:52pm  

“I spent half my money on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The other half I wasted.”

― WC Fields
39   Strategist   2018 Dec 4, 8:54pm  

krc says
“I spent half my money on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The other half I wasted.”


It's never too late too late to stop wasting money.
40   Strategist   2018 Dec 4, 8:56pm  

Rin says
zzyzzx says
How much for the one above?


About $200 CAD per hour


Hey Zzyzzx, want to go 50/50?
42   Patrick   2019 Jan 17, 10:04pm  

I was just talking to a French guy who told me that the whole yellow vest protest thing in Paris is really about Macron's lying to get elected. He apparently promised to both reduce their "social security" taxes (the French version) and to maintain retirement benefits, but after getting elected, he reversed course on both of those promises.

So people are pretty pissed at him.
44   Ceffer   2019 Jan 20, 11:37am  

And here's your news about the Yellow Vest Movement in the Legacy Press:



Now, back to Trump and the Russian thing.
45   Patrick   2019 Jan 20, 11:58am  

Gosh, more than two years of probably the most intense investigation of any president in history, and still zippo, nada, bupkis.
46   mell   2019 Jan 20, 12:03pm  

BayArea says
Are you guys suggesting that if France had a zero tolerance immigration policy against Muslims, the riots against fuel costs and taxation would not be taking place?


If they had zero rapefugee immigration they would not need to raise taxes in the first place.
47   mell   2019 Jan 20, 12:04pm  

Patrick says
I was just talking to a French guy who told me that the whole yellow vest protest thing in Paris is really about Macron's lying to get elected. He apparently promised to both reduce their "social security" taxes (the French version) and to maintain retirement benefits, but after getting elected, he reversed course on both of those promises.

So people are pretty pissed at him.


Globalist shill bought and paid for.
48   REpro   2019 Jan 20, 6:19pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Looks like a bit of a mess right now.

Also looks like the Diverse "New French" Inhabitants of Paris are having a "Blast.
.

I hear Macron is envious of Trump, with just a 25% approval rating



California, Washington State, Oregon.... just a few years from now.
53   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jan 29, 11:51pm  

Wow, thank you Patrick.

The Great Intersectionality cannot handle "Class". Aren't all Whites Rich, except for a handful of racist methheads?
54   Patrick   2019 Jan 30, 8:16am  

Thing is, when they realize it's actually all about class, that points the arrow at themselves.

They would much rather imagine racism where very little exists. That lets them point the arrow at the stupid workers who they impoverished by forcing them to compete with impoverished people in other countries. And that get funding and enthusiastic cooperation from NPR and other mouthpieces for global capital. Just listen to who is funding NPR.
55   cmdrda2leak   2019 Jan 30, 8:34am  

Patrick says
https://thefireonline.com/nothing-scares-the-identity-politics-left-like-an-actual-working-class-uprising/



Nothing scares the Identity Politics Left quite like an actual working class uprising. Witnessing the furious unwashed masses operating out there on their own, with no decent human restraint whatsoever, Identity Politics Leftists feel a sudden overwhelming urge to analyze, categorize, organize, sanitize, and otherwise correct and control them. They can’t accept the fact that the actual, living, breathing working classes are messy, multiplicitous, inconsistent, and irreducible to any one ideology. Some of them are racists. Some are fascists. Others are communists, socialists, and anarchists. Many have no idea what they are, and don’t particularly care for any of these labels. This is what the actual working classes are … a big, contradictory collection of people who, in spite of all their differences, share one thing in common, that they are being screwed over by the ruling classes.


Spot. Fucking. On.
57   REpro   2020 Jul 26, 5:34pm  

Portland protesters improved this.
58   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:42pm  

REpro says

Also looks like the Diverse "New French" Inhabitants of Paris are having a "Blast.
.

I hear Macron is envious of Trump, with just a 25% approval rating



California, Washington State, Oregon.... just a few years from now.

Off by a few years.
59   zzyzzx   2021 Jan 22, 7:15pm  

German cartoon from the 1930's depicting France in 100 years (2030):


60   richwicks   2021 Jan 22, 7:37pm  

Patrick says
I was just talking to a French guy who told me that the whole yellow vest protest thing in Paris is really about Macron's lying to get elected. He apparently promised to both reduce their "social security" taxes (the French version) and to maintain retirement benefits, but after getting elected, he reversed course on both of those promises.

So people are pretty pissed at him.


Dumbfucks should have elected LePen.

And to be honest - they probably did. They had a massive amount of "spoiled ballots"
61   richwicks   2021 Jan 22, 7:46pm  

cmdrda2leak says
Nothing scares the Identity Politics Left quite like an actual working class uprising. Witnessing the furious unwashed masses operating out there on their own, with no decent human restraint whatsoever, Identity Politics Leftists feel a sudden overwhelming urge to analyze, categorize, organize, sanitize, and otherwise correct and control them. They can’t accept the fact that the actual, living, breathing working classes are messy, multiplicitous, inconsistent, and irreducible to any one ideology. Some of them are racists. Some are fascists. Others are communists, socialists, and anarchists.


This is bullshit.

The working class has one thing in common and that is "leave us the fuck alone". They aren't a disparate group, they are a group of people trying to live their lives, most often trying to raise a family and fucking sick and tired of a bunch of outsider assholes trying to tell them how to live their lives and taxing the fuck out of them.

They are, by far, the most united group there is.

I'm an engineer now but I grew up among blue collar workers and I purposely live among the working class because I have more affection and commonality with them then some asshole "intellectual". If you want to hear truth, true thinking, and CLEAR thinking, talk to a truck driver, to a guy bagging groceries, an auto-mechanic, a plumber, a farmer (man they are goddamned workers!) and they will give you a clear idea of what they think of the fucking government.

If you listen, and ask only questions, and don't disagree and offer input and accept rebuttal and be polite - you'll walk away from that in total agreement after they have aired their grievances. It's people like this that really understand the situation. I get paid big bucks to make toys for assholes. They instead make my life possible. I have great respect for the blue collar workers of this world. Without them, I'm dead.

When I do this, I offer insights, I disagree - but I explain my reasoning. It's never an argument but I've learned more from blue collar workers about life than I ever did from a professor. One thing I know I must do is accept I'm wrong, that I have my head in the clouds, and I simply don't understand the reality of the viciousness of the world.
62   Patrick   2021 Jan 22, 7:47pm  

zzyzzx says
German cartoon from the 1930's depicting France in 100 years (2030):


The top title reads: "The negroization of France in 100 years".

The bottom reads: "The last un-colored French are the big attraction of the Paris zoo."

Finally got to use that German degree for something!

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