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@Marcus let's review. You are accusing [X] of dishonesty for [Y].
Please fill in your answer for X and Y, because simply saying something is dishonest is trollish w/o any specifics.
Still waiting...
How do you square the massive build up in border security and the reduced numbers of incoming illegals, that experts say will be unaffected by the wall ?
marcus saysHow do you square the massive build up in border security and the reduced numbers of incoming illegals, that experts say will be unaffected by the wall ?
It's questioning the intellectual honesty of what Patrick said. Followed by charts soon there after showing how much border security was increased and illegal immigration decreased in the 8 years before Trump.
A disagreement is not a lie
and the reduced numbers of incoming illegals, that experts say will be unaffected by the wall ?
And the fact that democrats don't support a $30 billion dollar wall doesn't prove anything, other than that the obstruction they do is far more pragmatic and sensible than the obstruction republitards did to Obama.
in a WaPO or NYT list of thousands of Trump lies,
But my point is that implying that democrats want open borders, when they have been actively promoting massive increases in border security is a lie.
Ok. Now we're talking.
do think the anti-wall thing is mostly propaganda considering Bill Clinton and even early Obama wanted walls.
First, there are many, many progressives extremists who are saying walls are immoral
a key part of Trumps base are racists
Wrong, the propaganda is that if you're not for a $30 billion or $50 billion dollar wall you're not for walls. OR worse you're not for border security.
FAR FAR FAR fewer racists for trump than anti-trump. Not even close.
THe truth is that we have been building extensive walls for decades, and congress recently allocated $1.2 billion for repairs and extensions of existing walls.
(I fully expect you and Patrick and all the others spouting the propaganda to ignore this fact as much as possible)
Maybe we need a new word other than racist, for people that are overly obsessed with racial issues.
The group that fears the loss of majority status of white people in America.
So yeah, @patrick could have added some exclusions to his statement, but hes not wrong in his observations.
That tiny irrelevant group of tens of racists probably do want the wall.
THe truth is that we have been building extensive walls for decades, and congress recently allocated $1.2 billion for repairs and extensions of existing walls.
(I fully expect you and Patrick and all the others spouting the propaganda to ignore this fact as much as possible)
I won't be holding my breath until you guys talk about the degree to which this spoils your dishonest narrative. If democrats are so opposed to border security or so opposed to a wall, how do you explain this ?
"Walls are immoral". Is Pelosi an outsider or extremist Democrat?
I don't know, perhaps she's just trolling the morons.
Democrats have been so forgiving of illegal immigration that they give the deep impression that they seek to dissolve the border entirely.
This is the new progressives though as opposed to the blue dog dems for example. Trump is basically a blue dog dem. He would have been a D Potus in 1988 for sure
Ronald Reagan did a massive amnesty for all the illegals in the 80s. GWB was WAYYYY easier on border security and illegal aliens than Obama was.
In a closed door meeting, Nancy disrobes in front of Trump, turning him to stone.
CBOEtrader saysWe are literally agreeing on something and somehow you think we are at odds here.
Ahhh so you agree that Democrats are for border security.
Muslims use the northern border, much easier to sneak in .
So nobody has noticed the Leaks have all stopped?
Why is this relevant? Explain please
That's not a prayer rug I can tell you that much for sure.
Who's third world diseased hands picked that lettuce.
Nice an article from 2005
Next will you show me this one from Breitbart?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2014/07/09/muslim-prayer-rug-found-on-arizona-border-by-independendent-american-security-contractors/
Aren't you always telling us how we shouldn't believe something from an anonymous source? Fake news?
Actually, I think I'll go with the guy from Yale to know what a prayer rug looks like.
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