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Speaking of Cockroaches!

marcus says

Ok then can we TRY to have a rational conversation about gun deaths?

Start by admitting suicides are more than 2/3rds of deaths.

Then, admit that murder rate is the comparable stat to compare to other countries, not gun deaths or even gun murder rate.

3rd, let's admit demographics are the predictive variable in murder rates. The more black "diversity" in a city/county/state/country = the higher the murder rate. This is consistent everywhere you can find data to compare. Black people = higher murder rates. Places w less diversity which are either white or asian have extremely low murder rates. New Hampshire's murder rate is comparable to Finlands. Compare that to Baltimore.

4th, admit fatherless households and mental health are the next most identifiable predictors. How many of these white mass shooters (representing less than 1% of gun deaths) have fatherless homes and are on mental health RX's?

5th, stop politicizing facts.

marcus says

Trumpism is a religion of peace.
The actions of a few extremists do not represent the vast majority of republicans who are very peaceful.
They don't really believe what Trump says anyway.

Heraclitusstudent says

Trumpism is a religion of peace.
The actions of a few extremists do not represent the vast majority of republicans who are very peaceful.
They don't really believe what Trump says anyway.

Not ALL Muslims are like that... but ALL Trump Voters are!

marcus says

Let's have a ban on fully automatic weapons that can shoot 600 rounds per minute. Oh, wait, we already do.

Hey WaltertheoFlanders.

Even the left has moved on from the "Trump Russia Collusion" fairy tale. It is now "White Supremacy." Please keep up.

The only proof we need that tRUMP is a Russian puppet, while Obama was a staunch defender of democracy and foe of Putin:

The US has delivered a batch of Javelin anti-tank busters to Ukraine, marking the first provision of lethal weaponry to Kiev despite warnings from Moscow...
Addressing his US counterpart, Mr Poroshenko added: “I am sincerely grateful for the just decision of Donald J. Trump in support of Ukraine, in defence of freedom and democracy.”
The Trump administration late last year formally approved a decision to provide Ukraine with lethal weaponry, including the Javelins.
Though the US provided almost $1bn in non-lethal military assistance to Ukraine since the war erupted in 2014, the Obama administration refrained from providing lethal arms fearing that such action would trigger Russia to escalate the conflict by providing more advanced weaponry to proxy forces.

https://www.ft.com/content/dd7597ca-4ca5-11e8-97e4-13afc22d86d4

But FACTS do not matter, what matters is that Fake News support our point of view...