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Quigley says

I’m not seeing that, @mell
On the contrary, I’m seeing young women pushed to be more sexual and provocative to compete for young mens’ interest. The situation sucks for women as well, since there are so many young men who aren’t well adjusted or masculine, they wind up chasing the same few guys and knifing each other in the back in jealousy.

The only way this turns around is for men to start acting like men, and women will respond accordingly.

That's peak female hypergamy, but they have enough suitors they don't need to be sexually provocative. Don't have to be a prude nun but men don't care if a woman is sexually edgy in fact for long term partners they prefer a lesser sexualized one. What you see is what society and media tells women what they should do and look like. Hey look like a slut in school it's your right and if you don't do it you're not promoting feminism. They are also being told they should only settle for the best because each of them deserves the best only no matter if ugly dumb or fat. That leads to all of them thinking they need to chase the top 5% only and so they get pumped and dumped but those men. It doesn't have to suck for them but they choose to follow society/media.

Quigley says

The situation sucks for women as well, since there are so many young men who aren’t well adjusted or masculine, they wind up chasing the same few guys and knifing each other in the back in jealousy.

Sorry to do this whole lonely at the top thing, but the availability of young pu$$y to any normal adult male combined w insane anti-male marriage laws results in many of my male friends not caring to either settle down or even have a GF.

Why would they, when they can exchange one dime piece for another with ease?

I have one buddy who has mastered the dating app game (he works out a lot and has great abs). He's currently rampaging through Eastern Europe, says he may never leave Poland .

mell says

Don't have to be a prude nun but men don't care if a woman is sexually edgy in fact for long term partners they prefer a lesser sexualized one.

You are pointing out the gap between sexual market value and relationship market value.

This is particularly difficult for a woman to grasp. Why?! Because the young, slutty , hot girl in the bar has such a HIGH sexual market value that she DOES NOT understand how her dating market value is low.

Also, if she ever dates anyone, she feels she can replace him in a snap. Which is true IF she wants sex, but not true if she wants a relationship.

Men will never understand what it's like to have a crazy high sexual value with a low relationship value to the opposite sex. The highest value men, like LeBron James will have both high sexual AND high relationship value to women.

There simply is no male equivalent to the experience of the 22 year old bar slut. Nor is there anyone coaching these misguided women to their optimal lifechoice.

It's the biggest mind fuck I've seen in modern relationships, and it drives far too many young/hot/slutty women totally insane = zero relationship value.

CBOEtrader says

He's currently rampaging through Eastern Europe

Rin?

P N Dr Lo R says

CBOEtrader says

He's currently rampaging through Eastern Europe

Rin?

Too sloppy for Rin. My buddy is picking up girls in bars and/or tinder, banging and moving on.

Rin would choose his partners from a menu, vet them fully, then proceed to his hearts content in his legally safe environment.

Yep, the hot ones get driven off track to insanity pretty easy, and then aren’t worth much at all for relationship. I’m trying to teach my daughter to be more reserved when it comes to young men. Make them get to know her and fall in love before she commits to anything. Ideally, she wouldn’t commit to anything more than a kiss before making a marriage pact with the right guy. That guy is going to know that she’s high value and that she’s not a slut, and thus he won’t have to worry about her cheating on him. That kind of security for a man has enormous value and is hard to underestimate for a man considering a lifetime commitment to a single woman which comes with terrible consequences if she is unfaithful.

CBOEtrader says

Rin would choose his partners from a menu, vet them fully, then proceed to his hearts content in his legally safe environment.

Hahaha

While listening to Bach or Metallica depending on the season or his mood.

Quigley says

Yep, the hot ones get driven off track to insanity pretty easy, and then aren’t worth much at all for relationship. I’m trying to teach my daughter to be more reserved when it comes to young men. Make them get to know her and fall in love before she commits to anything. Ideally, she wouldn’t commit to anything more than a kiss before making a marriage pact with the right guy. That guy is going to know that she’s high value and that she’s not a slut, and thus he won’t have to worry about her cheating on him. That kind of security for a man has enormous value and is hard to underestimate for a man considering a lifetime commitment to a single woman which comes with terrible consequences if she is unfaithful.

You could sell out seminars in Yankee stadium if you master that daddy-daughter talk.

Good luck to you, sir.

CBOEtrader says

mell says

Don't have to be a prude nun but men don't care if a woman is sexually edgy in fact for long term partners they prefer a lesser sexualized one.

You are pointing out the gap between sexual market value and relationship market value.

This is particularly difficult for a woman to grasp. Why?! Because the young, slutty , hot girl in the bar has such a HIGH sexual market value that she DOES NOT understand how her dating market value is low.

Also, if she ever dates anyone, she feels she can replace him in a snap. Which is true IF she wants sex, but not true if she wants a relationship.

Men will never understand what it's like to have a crazy high sexual value with a low relationship value to the opposite sex. The highest value men, like LeBron James will have both high sexual AND high relationship value to women.

There simply is no male equivalent to the experi...

Right in their teens to early 30s women have all the advantage esp if hot. However many squander it and then get bitter when the wall hits rather quickly late 30s. A long bond and kids provide the foundation for successful marriage. It's easy to slay pussy if you work out have a good job and have some game but it doesn't make it easier to find a suitable wife. In fact it may make it harder as you get many that only want you for your game or money. More to sift through. Wife material is extremely rare these days.

mell says

It's easy to slay pussy if you work out have a good job and have some game but it doesn't make it easier to find a suitable wife. In fact it may make it harder as you get many that only want you for your game or money.

It makes it harder . Agreed.

You have to remove yourself from the dating carousel, which is hard when 25 year old dime pieces are total whores.

CBOEtrader says

dime pieces

What is a dime piece?

Onvacation says

CBOEtrader says

dime pieces

What is a dime piece?

1) a piece of ass that is a 10.
2) the world's easiest renewable resource.

Women are interesting because they are:

1. a commodity, with nothing much that many other women don't also have
2. irreplaceable, if you've fallen in love with that one

So they are at both ends of the value spectrum.

Patrick says

Women are interesting because they are:

1. a commodity, with nothing much that many other women don't also have
2. irreplaceable, if you've fallen in love with that one

So they are at both ends of the value spectrum.

Yes, and Quigley is trying to teach his daughter to be the latter rather than the former.

Guess what? It all goes back to what your grandma taught us. "Keep your legs closed until he marries you."

I only witnessed a handful of hot women do that in my day. Every one ended up married to a great man by 25, and happy as can be.

Wise words that today’s generation desperately needs.

Quigley says

Yep, the hot ones get driven off track to insanity pretty easy, and then aren’t worth much at all for relationship. I’m trying to teach my daughter to be more reserved when it comes to young men. Make them get to know her and fall in love before she commits to anything. Ideally, she wouldn’t commit to anything more than a kiss before making a marriage pact with the right guy. That guy is going to know that she’s high value and that she’s not a slut, and thus he won’t have to worry about her cheating on him. That kind of security for a man has enormous value and is hard to underestimate for a man considering a lifetime commitment to a single woman which comes with terrible consequences if she is unfaithful.

mell says

That's peak female hypergamy, but they have enough suitors they don't need to be sexually provocative. Don't have to be a prude nun but men don't care if a woman is sexually edgy in fact for long term partners they prefer a lesser sexualized one. What you see is what society and media tells women what they should do and look like. Hey look like a slut in school it's your right and if you don't do it you're not promoting feminism. They are also being told they should only settle for the best because each of them deserves the best only no matter if ugly dumb or fat. That leads to all of them thinking they need to chase the top 5% only and so they get pumped and dumped but those men. It doesn't have to suck for them but they choose to follow society/media.

Yep. This is why most guys fantasize about the "Secret Sexy Secretary/Librarian", who is a complete sexpot just for them --- but uncover when not in bed with them as a bookish, shy person.

CBOEtrader says

This is particularly difficult for a woman to grasp. Why?! Because the young, slutty , hot girl in the bar has such a HIGH sexual market value that she DOES NOT understand how her dating market value is low.

CBOEtrader says

You are pointing out the gap between sexual market value and relationship market value.

Right on.

I think Women experience less frequent tingle events than men . HOWEVER, when they get those rare tingles, I think they are far more powerful than what men experience. Like a marmoset hypnotized by a snake's eyes or some shit, melt into compliance type shit.

One problem with Women is they think what qualifies Men in their Eyes as Relationship Material also applies vice-versa.

Most Women do not get that most Men don't give "Points" to a Gal depending on whether she has a Master's Degree or works as a Waitress in a Greasy Spoon for tips on the $5 hamburger. Men simply don't care, or it's sprinkles on the ice cream that don't really matter if they're not on the Sundae. It's the underlying Scoops of Sexiness, Sweetness, and Submission that count. On a scale of 1-100, a guy might reward 1 or 2 points on a relationship scale, but it's not going to be a major factor. In fact, it's more likely he'd award more points for being a pediatric nurse or Sunday School Teacher or something, but not for journalism or accounting or some shit.

Quigley says

Yep, the hot ones get driven off track to insanity pretty easy, and then aren’t worth much at all for relationship. I’m trying to teach my daughter to be more reserved when it comes to young men. Make them get to know her and fall in love before she commits to anything. Ideally, she wouldn’t commit to anything more than a kiss before making a marriage pact with the right guy. That guy is going to know that she’s high value and that she’s not a slut, and thus he won’t have to worry about her cheating on him. That kind of security for a man has enormous value and is hard to underestimate for a man considering a lifetime commitment to a single woman which comes with terrible consequences if she is unfaithful.

Awesome, Quigley.

I feel like with women, they need to hear a variant like what Tom Hanks said from Saving Private Ryan:

"The more guys you romance, the further away from Mr. Right you'll feel."

(The more people I kill, the further away from home I feel. or words to that effect)

Kids used to learn that Girls have their virginity, Boys have their commitment. Girls these days are freely give away their virginity early and often, but get mad that guys won't pony up the commitment at the drop of a hint.

Also, Vagina Inflation plays a role. If all the chicks are handing over their vaginas with ease, they feel pressure to do the same. Many women also don't understand or are angry that their vagina doesn't have the power it's traditionally had, or something like it, since Vag is no longer rare and subject to terms and conditions. Plus widely available porn.

HonkpilledMaster says

In fact, it's more likely he'd award more points for being a pediatric nurse or Sunday School Teacher or something, but not for journalism or accounting or some shit.

Nurse= Maybe 20 points on my list. Indicates a caring nature, which will be good for raising children and understanding and forgiving my BS, plus good earning potential means help with the finances and something for her to do when she’s not needed to raise children all the time.
Sunday school teacher= 10 points. Not good for earning potential, but you get high marks for morality, fidelity, and working well with kids.
Journalism=-10 points. Likely to be a Leftist, probably not good mom material, most likely to travel for work, likely to cheat. Only bonus is her paycheck, and that’s not reliable long term with the direction of the media.
Accountant=0 points. Paycheck good. Probably not a good mother, but decent to good in the sack. Will keep family finances in order. Unlikely to be hawt.

HonkpilledMaster says

I'm finding the Wings above Cleavage Tattooed Chicks with Center Nose Ring-Pulls and massive arm tattoos to also be disgusting. All the 20-something chicks are getting it.

I think some people fail to learn from previous generations, require to fail on their own in order to learn a lesson in how to live once life.

zzyzzx says

That IS suspicious!

Tenpoundbass says

Yeah but,
Which one can you buy legal pot in?

Tenpoundbass says

It pains me a little because SF would be such a beautiful city without all the shit and mentally ill people. The initial hippies were overall alright and even the gays in the Castro had some style and a sense of behavior and manners and were excluding any nutjobs from their circles and keeping their hood relatively clean and didn't push their lifestyle onto others. You wanted a night of cruder fun with a hot chick you'd take her to the Castro or you hooked up with a hot one that lives there and was longing for straight dick. Now this the originally gay have blended with mentally ill LGBTQXYZ123456789+-- nutcracker "activists" and the 80% hippies have blended with a bunch of hobos and extremely addicted druggies, and because of Diversity! and Inclusion! and SJW! regressive leftoid politics these people have ruined the city by basically promoting a culture that says it's ok to be ugly and mentally ill, and it's the fault of those who aren't. Without a Giuliani type of cleansing for 5-10 years the city and a big part of CA are toast long-term.

https://www.voat.co/v/politics/3309820
"THIS YEAR IN CLOWN WORLD"
1 - A 'whites only' sign is pure evil nazi discrimination, but a "blacks only" sign is a celebration of diversity and it is worthy of praise.
2 - Girl scouts demand to be allowed into the boy scouts, and once they get in, the first thing the girls do is to create a girls-only troop, preventing boys from being allowed into their boyscout troop.
3 - Claim walls are immoral while standing safely behind large walls.
4 - Claim guns are evil while being protected by people armed with guns.
5 - Claim white people are the majority when they are outnumbered in the world by more than 10 to 1 (only 0.76 billion white people exist in a world with almost 7.7 billion people).
6 - It is now 'justice' to "believe accusers" without due process or evidence.Muslims are given the absolute right to move into any country they choose, excepting only Israel.
7 - A wall in the US is immoral but last year $38 billion US tax dollars were given to Israel for Israel to build a wall to keep the Muslims out.
8 - We absolutely need to know absolutely everything from Kavanough's past because everything is relevant, but don't worry about Obama's drug use, or his ties to terrorist networks, and we don't need to see a real birth certificate.Discrimination against women is morally wrong. Discrimination against men is equal opportunity.
9 - It's ok for adults to have a child perform an erotic dance for money, but it is so wrong for a white kid to smirk, and if he does, someone should lock him in a school and burn it down upon him.
10 - Believe that banning abortion will not stop abortions, but banning guns will stop gun crime.
11 - Claim the it would be wrong for Russian foreigners to interfere the American election, but believe that Mexican foreigners and Africans entering illegally should have the right to vote in American elections.
12 - Predatory immigrants are good for us, but not for their homelands and not for israel.
13 - US troops give their lives to protect the borders of other nations but they cannot be used to protect the borders of the United States.
14 - Young working Americans who do not want or cannot afford health insurance must pay an extra tax, but drug addicts go to the emergency room to get heroine injections at no cost.
15 - Giving free food, shelter and health care to children entering illegally is immoral because the kids have to sleep with the lights on for their own protection, but brutally murdering a child only seconds before birth is a celebration of human rights.
16 - Muslims destroying property is "political speech" but drawing a cartoon of a muslim destroying property is "hate speech that incites violence."
This is all I can think of off the top of my head. Feel free to add your own.
There are already several more good ones in the comment thread over there. Go see.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/27/passenger-in-clown-suit-prompts-mass-brawl-on-po-cruise-ship

Passenger in clown suit prompted mass cruise ship brawl, say witnesses

Tenpoundbass says

https://www.voat.co/v/politics/3309820
"THIS YEAR IN CLOWN WORLD"
1 - A 'whites only' sign is pure evil nazi discrimination, but a "blacks only" sign is a celebration of diversity and it is worthy of praise.
2 - Girl scouts demand to be allowed into the boy scouts, and once they get in, the first thing the girls do is to create a girls-only troop, preventing boys from being allowed into their boyscout troop.
3 - Claim walls are immoral while standing safely behind large walls.
4 - Claim guns are evil while being protected by people armed with guns.
5 - Claim white people are the majority when they are outnumbered in the world by more than 10 to 1 (only 0.76 billion white people exist in a world with almost 7.7 billion people).
6 - It is now 'justice' to "believe accusers" without due process or evidence.Muslims are given the absolute right to move into any country they choose, excepting only Israel.
7 ...

17. Saying another country sucks is hate speech, saying America sucks is just the right thing to do. (I've seen this actually happen)
18. Hijab is a fashion symbol, cross is symbol of oppression.
19. Spanking a child is abuse, changing their gender by cutting genitals and stuffing them with chemicals is a civil right.

Liberals embraced idiocy too far.

Booger says

cruise ship

"in the buffet area"

Isn't that what cruises are all about anyway? Somehow Shelley Winters and Ernest Borgnine come to mind when I think of cruises.

Onvacation says

Tenpoundbass says

Yeah but,
Which one can you buy legal pot in?

Yeah, but which one can you more easily buy a gun in?

They had to lock up Ice Creme, Liberals couldn't handle it.

Tenpoundbass says

They had to lock up Ice Creme, Liberals couldn't handle it.

Was it liberals or millennials?

We should at least start differentiating between rational minded leftists like Dave Ruben, Lindsay Shepherd, and Erin Weinstein from the twitteratti.

Seems like all rational minded peops should band together to fight the crazies.