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Fuck Electric Vehicles, But More Importantly, Fuck Their Sanctimonious Owners.


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2019 May 3, 8:59am   14,781 views  308 comments

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The pathetic appeal to emotions that both EV manufacturers and their owners is starting to get tiring. If you want to drive a vehicle powered by electricity, hydrogen, corn oil, fucking bananas, thats your prerogative. But lets not pretend our vehicle purchases are turning the tide of anything.

Electricity for much of the US and world is powered through coal, its just a switch to another equal pollutant. The batteries and materials used in EVs are full of heavy metals, not to mention that when the batteries in an EV combust they fill the air with pollutants, burning heavy metals that fire departments cant extinguish. Lastly, theres not enough data on current EVs to determine their shelf life, given the materials and amount of electronics, i imagine the shelf life of an EV will be significantly shorter than that of an ICE vehicle.

Given all of that, you will still be subject to the bitching and moaning of bugmen and babies who have never changed their oil in their life. The sheer panic that these people attempt to spread and their ever changing timeline of ecological destruction is obnoxious. These arent folks who attempt to clean up India or China(our leading polluters) but they want to concentrate on stripping you of your ability to choose.

The government is only too happy to comply too. The more that bloodsucking government can entangle themselves in transportation, the more control they have over you and your movement. The government gives companies like Tesla "Credits" that they can sell to ICE manufacturers who dont develop EVs, or dont develop them to the point that the government wants. This allows failing EV companies, like Tesla, to stay afloat even though they cant run a business efficiently. Honestly this type of behavior is more akin to a villain from an Ayn Rand novel, both with the governments overreach and with the behavior of many EV owners in general.



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293   WookieMan   2025 Apr 14, 7:21pm  

socal2 says

That repair on gas cars can run between $1,200 and $1,500.

Where in the flying fuck were they getting brakes done? It's a 1 hour job max and $150 in parts. It's a $300 job worst case.

socal2 says

the Bargersville Police Department says it has saved them nearly $500,000 in maintenance and repairs.

No chance these numbers are right. They aren't paying MFT on the chargers. That is coming to an end. No one has even heard of this town and 13 EV's for 16 officers that aren't all on duty at the same time? I'm calling bull shit on this one.

3 shifts, you'd maybe need 6 EV's max with 4 officers on duty. 3 cars charging, 3 officers on the road and 1 desk duty. Just not buying it. Who the hell even knows who the guy is that tweeted this.

People are gullible. This has an insane scent of bull shit.
294   socal2   2025 Apr 14, 7:40pm  

WookieMan says

Who the hell even knows who the guy is that tweeted this.

People are gullible. This has an insane scent of bull shit.


Here is the source article from my old hometown newspaper.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2025/04/14/five-years-later-how-indianas-first-police-teslas-holding-up-bargersville-department-todd-bertram/83083353007/
295   WookieMan   2025 Apr 15, 1:29am  

socal2 says

Here is the source article from my old hometown newspaper.

Paywall... Still have to address why they have 13 cars with 16 officers. That was my point. 16 officers is maybe a town of 5-6k? Not all 16 are on duty at the same time.

And now that I'm thinking about it you have more gear than normal in a cop car running off electric supply. A running ICE car and alternator can run that all day. You're going to lose 10-20% of battery running equipment in a cop car. You'll have to swap cars during your shift or get yourself in a situation you can't serve and protect when the battery runs out going to a call. Less time on the streets.

There also is no $500k in savings for 3-5 years because you paid more for the car up front. For police sedans you're looking at $50k more at least for an EV. The sedan style ICE patrol car is cheap outside of added equipment. You then still have to get tires. As I said, a brake job is a trivial task at around $200-300 and could be done in house with public works mechanics. Could literally be $80/car.

Basically what I'm saying is the math is not truthful or makes sense. Also they'll eventually have to account for MFT to charge. It's coming...
296   Eric Holder   2025 Apr 24, 1:48pm  

EBGuy says


Well, this will be interesting. Per press release, Walmart will be testing BrightDrop vans in several dense urban areas AND northwest Arkansas. Per the google:
Northwest Arkansas has a significantly lower population density compared to Austin, Texas. Northwest Arkansas has a population density of 174 people per square mile, while Austin has a density of 3,006.36 people per square mile. So I guess we'll be getting our test case...


In other news:

General Motors has temporarily paused production of BrightDrop electric vans at its CAMI Assembly plant in Ontario, Canada. This halt is scheduled to last from May to October 2025 due to weak demand and inventory adjustments
299   clambo   2025 Jun 5, 7:42am  

Off the subject a bit, evidently Musk is freaking out that Trump et. al want to get rid of the tax credit=subsidy for electric battery cars.
300   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 5, 7:56am  

clambo says

Off the subject a bit, evidently Musk is freaking out that Trump et. al want to get rid of the tax credit=subsidy for electric battery cars.


Nah, he's on record saying he doesn't want these.
301   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jun 5, 8:05am  

RWSGFY says

Nah, he's on record saying he doesn't want these.


Yup. Has he recently changed his tune, clambo ?
302   clambo   2025 Jun 5, 8:49am  

I'm guilty of not really paying much attention to what Musk is saying about things, so if he is against tax credits (corporate welfare) for battery cars that's fine.
303   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jun 5, 10:51am  

clambo says

I'm guilty of not really paying much attention to what Musk is saying about things, so if he is against tax credits (corporate welfare) for battery cars that's fine.


You are the one who said, "evidently Musk is freaking out that Trump et. al want to get rid of the tax credit=subsidy for electric battery cars."
305   HeadSet   2025 Jun 15, 9:22am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says





Not sure what your point is, or why the ODO is in kilometers. Getting a quarter million miles (402k kilometers) out of a car sounds like a good deal for the original owner.
306   WookieMan   2025 Jun 15, 11:07am  

HeadSet says

Not sure what your point is, or why the ODO is in kilometers. Getting a quarter million miles (402k kilometers) out of a car sounds like a good deal for the original owner.

I think the point is the resale is trash. I wouldn't buy one. A new battery is due and you've essentially got a $22-25k car at least. I'd just get a new hybrid for $30k that's the same size and has similar features. If you're into acceleration and that stuff you're a common retard. You don't need that stuff.

You can also get a used hybrid for around the same amount with 60-80k miles. Full EV is stupid.
307   HeadSet   2025 Jun 15, 12:51pm  

WookieMan says

I think the point is the resale is trash.

Yes, but the resale on any car with 250k miles on it is "trash."
308   WookieMan   2025 Jun 16, 11:15am  

HeadSet says

WookieMan says


I think the point is the resale is trash.

Yes, but the resale on any car with 250k miles on it is "trash."

Agree and disagree. Can make an ICE vehicles run another 50-100k miles for $2-4k. Ain't doing that with an EV. It will be $10k and you still have to do tires and brakes. Manufacturers oil changes have gone way up. Might only need 2 a year unless it's a commercial vehicle. Oh the horror.

Still have to pay the electric. The MFT taxes are coming in some form in the near future. EV's I think have reached peak saturation. Factor in subsidies potentially going away, they're toast. It was never a viable option regardless of the fun to drive thing everyone is attached to. Start from A get me to B and that's a car. 0-60 in 2.5 seconds is stupid.

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