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komputodo
2019 Aug 4, 7:31am
komputodo
2019 Aug 4, 7:31am
ohomen171 says
“We are not safe anywhere.”The illusion of being safe isn't as commonly accepted as it once was. And no, I don't feel hopeless. But yes, social media outrage will increase and the blame will be on Trump as always. 3 days later all will be forgotten.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 Aug 4, 7:41am
Tenpoundbass
2019 Aug 4, 7:41am
No we're not safe anywhere. You can have a Black guy in a Blue City walk up to you and bust your head wide open with a brick. While you're waiting at a red light.
And there is no government tracked statistic for it. As common as it is for Black people to kill, or violently harm random people. Especially white people.
And there is no government tracked statistic for it. As common as it is for Black people to kill, or violently harm random people. Especially white people.
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HeadSet
2019 Aug 4, 7:46am
HeadSet
2019 Aug 4, 7:46am
With rapidly-advancing technology including artificial intelligence, it will become possible to identity potential shooters before they act. Even with the best technology and design, mistakes will be made. Innocent people will be incarcerated.
A less intrusive way to start would be to catalog the medications these mass shooters were on. If any correlations are found, then future people prescribed these medications would not be allowed firearms while taking these meds. This may even diminish violent behavior across the board.
A less intrusive way to start would be to catalog the medications these mass shooters were on. If any correlations are found, then future people prescribed these medications would not be allowed firearms while taking these meds. This may even diminish violent behavior across the board.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 Aug 4, 7:50am
Tenpoundbass
2019 Aug 4, 7:50am
How come these killers always look like Obama Navigators, rather than Skinheads or Red Necks?
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komputodo
2019 Aug 4, 7:52am
komputodo
2019 Aug 4, 7:52am
Tenpoundbass says
Because that would be raciss
As common as it is for Black people to kill, or violently harm random people. Especially white people.
Because that would be raciss
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NDrLoR
2019 Aug 4, 7:56am
NDrLoR
2019 Aug 4, 7:56am
A good place to start would be a new book I've ordered:
https://www.amazon.com/New-Evil-Understanding-Emergence-Violent/dp/1633885321/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+new+evil+stone+and+bucato&qid=1564930454&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spell
"A CHILLING FOLLOW-UP TO THE POPULAR TRUE CRIME BOOK THE ANATOMY OF EVILRevisiting Dr. Michael Stone's groundbreaking 22-level Gradations of Evil Scale, a hierarchy of evil behavior first introduced in the book The Anatomy of Evil, Stone and Dr. Gary Brucato, a fellow violence and serious psychopathology expert, here provide even more detail, using dozens of cases to exemplify the categories along the continuum. The New Evil also presents compelling evidence that, since a cultural tipping-point in the 1960s, certain types of violent crime have emerged that in earlier decades never or very rarely occurred. The authors examine the biological and psychiatric factors behind serial killing, serial rape, torture, mass and spree murders, and other severe forms of violence. They persuasively argue that, in at least some cases, a collapse of moral faculties contributes to the commission of such heinous crimes, such that "evil" should be considered not only a valid area of inquiry, but, in our current cultural climate, an imperative one. They consider the effects of new technologies and sociological, cultural, and historical factors since the 1960s that may have set the stage for "the new evil." Further, they explain how personality, psychosis, and other qualities can meaningfully contribute to particular crimes, making for many different motives.Relying on their extensive clinical experience, and examination of writings and artwork by infamous serial killers, these experts offer many insights into the logic that drives horrible criminal behavior, and they discuss the hope that in the future such violence may be prevented.
https://www.amazon.com/New-Evil-Understanding-Emergence-Violent/dp/1633885321/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+new+evil+stone+and+bucato&qid=1564930454&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spell
"A CHILLING FOLLOW-UP TO THE POPULAR TRUE CRIME BOOK THE ANATOMY OF EVILRevisiting Dr. Michael Stone's groundbreaking 22-level Gradations of Evil Scale, a hierarchy of evil behavior first introduced in the book The Anatomy of Evil, Stone and Dr. Gary Brucato, a fellow violence and serious psychopathology expert, here provide even more detail, using dozens of cases to exemplify the categories along the continuum. The New Evil also presents compelling evidence that, since a cultural tipping-point in the 1960s, certain types of violent crime have emerged that in earlier decades never or very rarely occurred. The authors examine the biological and psychiatric factors behind serial killing, serial rape, torture, mass and spree murders, and other severe forms of violence. They persuasively argue that, in at least some cases, a collapse of moral faculties contributes to the commission of such heinous crimes, such that "evil" should be considered not only a valid area of inquiry, but, in our current cultural climate, an imperative one. They consider the effects of new technologies and sociological, cultural, and historical factors since the 1960s that may have set the stage for "the new evil." Further, they explain how personality, psychosis, and other qualities can meaningfully contribute to particular crimes, making for many different motives.Relying on their extensive clinical experience, and examination of writings and artwork by infamous serial killers, these experts offer many insights into the logic that drives horrible criminal behavior, and they discuss the hope that in the future such violence may be prevented.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Aug 4, 1:07pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Aug 4, 1:07pm
ohomen171 says
You forgot about the 100+ mass shootings that happened with pistols in the "Urban" Areas between minorities (no whites involved).
This is a great example of how Anti-White Racism permeates the Media. Not a weekend goes by in Chicago, Detroit, NOLA, Baltimore, etc without at least one, usually several, mass shootings. 5% of the population commits not only half the murders, but the majority of mass shootings - young black Males. The national media ignores them.
You only hear about the freakouts among 200M White people.
We got the heart-breaking news of two mass shootings yesterday. 30 people lost their lives. We only give secondary thoughts to the 42 people injured in these two insane rampages.
You forgot about the 100+ mass shootings that happened with pistols in the "Urban" Areas between minorities (no whites involved).
This is a great example of how Anti-White Racism permeates the Media. Not a weekend goes by in Chicago, Detroit, NOLA, Baltimore, etc without at least one, usually several, mass shootings. 5% of the population commits not only half the murders, but the majority of mass shootings - young black Males. The national media ignores them.
You only hear about the freakouts among 200M White people.
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clambo
2019 Aug 5, 6:38am
I think that to buy a rifle that can use a magazine a person should be 25 years and older; this is the age requirement for renting a car.
Of course it's also a good idea to register and monitor males who are nutty and on medication, this should be obvious.
i don't know if the shooters were on meds in the two most recent cases.
The guy in Las Vegas wasn't under 25 and so my new rule suggestion would not have helped in that case.
I don't attend events which may have large crowds for my own taste reasons, now I see a safety reason to avoid crowds.
I hear the assholes blaming Trump; but they keep saying "white males are bad" and this probably has some negative effect on the psyche of some fragile males.
Of course it's also a good idea to register and monitor males who are nutty and on medication, this should be obvious.
i don't know if the shooters were on meds in the two most recent cases.
The guy in Las Vegas wasn't under 25 and so my new rule suggestion would not have helped in that case.
I don't attend events which may have large crowds for my own taste reasons, now I see a safety reason to avoid crowds.
I hear the assholes blaming Trump; but they keep saying "white males are bad" and this probably has some negative effect on the psyche of some fragile males.
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Reality
2019 Aug 5, 7:24am
Annual deaths due to mass shooting: < 500
Annual deaths due to traffic accidents: > 40,000
Annual deaths due to medical errors: > 250,000
Time to ban all doctors/nurses/hospitals and all cars?
The leading cause of death is being alive! The correlation is 100%! Even if you were in a Walmart on Saturday, the chances of you being shot that day was less than the chance of dying from driving or checking into a hospital.
Annual deaths due to traffic accidents: > 40,000
Annual deaths due to medical errors: > 250,000
Time to ban all doctors/nurses/hospitals and all cars?
The leading cause of death is being alive! The correlation is 100%! Even if you were in a Walmart on Saturday, the chances of you being shot that day was less than the chance of dying from driving or checking into a hospital.
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Shaman
2019 Aug 5, 7:37am
Shaman
2019 Aug 5, 7:37am
I was watching the Ted Bundy tapes. This one psychopath single handedly changed the entire American culture from being more open and trusting during the early 70s to being guarded and untrusting. Hitch hiking went down tremendously when it was discovered that the killer was picking up young girls who hitch hiked. Point is, just like when wolves were re-introduced to Yellowstone, a predator in a community of people has the power to change behavior. The wolves only killed a tiny percentage of the native elk and deer population, but they reduced the population of those animals by thousands simply by forcing behavior change on the herbivores.
That’s really what this whole mass shooter thing is about: how much events like this are going to be allowed to force behavior change on all the rest of us.
That’s really what this whole mass shooter thing is about: how much events like this are going to be allowed to force behavior change on all the rest of us.
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RWSGFY
2019 Aug 5, 8:30am
RWSGFY
2019 Aug 5, 8:30am
clambo says
Makes 0 sense.
I think that to buy a rifle that can use a magazine a person should be 25 years and older; this is the age requirement for renting a car.
Makes 0 sense.
We got the heart-breaking news of two mass shootings yesterday. 30 people lost their lives. We only give secondary thoughts to the 42 people injured in these two insane rampages.
When an assault rifle is used in a shooting, even the injured suffer grievous wounds. I will not go into graphic detail here. Those of you who served in the military know what I’m talking about. If you have worked in a hospital emergency room when gunshot wounds are treated, you know what I’m talking about. If you’re curious, Google will give you information. These people suffer terrible injuries that could result in disability. If the wounded are lucky to avoid this fate, they will suffer for years to come through rehabilitation, medical treatments, etc. There is the equal problem of who will pay for this care. Rarely are the shooters wealthy with a big estate that can be taken. Health insurers might pay some of the costs but not all the costs. Government might help. Sometimes private donors help.
There is something more sinister and troubling than the wounded and dead. My wife summed it all up yesterday with the following words:
“We are not safe anywhere.”
A feeling of hopelessness and public outrage is going to follow. Where does it lead? The shooters are all males. In general, they rely on the internet to get their direction and warped ideology. You are going to start to see draconian monitoring of the internet that people in mainland China are accustomed to. You are going to see take downs of websites and the loss of free speech rights that will never come back. The US is going to become a police state in the name of protecting people. It matters not if Donald Trump or Elizabeth Warren is president (for example).
Long ago, President Richard Nixon advocated preventive detention of those prone to commit serious and violent crimes. This was called The Houston Plan. The 2002 Tom Cruse film Minority Report pursued this theme.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181689/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
With rapidly-advancing technology including artificial intelligence, it will become possible to identity potential shooters before they act. Even with the best technology and design, mistakes will be made. Innocent people will be incarcerated.