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NATO's Article 5 does not prohibit members from taking action against another NATO member, but it is not designed for such scenarios. Article 5 is intended to respond to armed attacks by non-NATO states on the territory of a member nation, and it does not explicitly forbid invoking it against another NATO member.

Without Ocean-going (not Baltic- or Aegean-going) LPDs or C-5 Galaxies, Europeans are basically stuck in Europe, with limited exceptions. Certainly not to Nuuk which makes Dutch Harbor look like Long Beach.

It's gonna happen one way or another. I seriously doubt there will be actual violence to any extent. Not unless the Brits get involved and regard it as another one of their Tavistock Fabian depopulation opportunities. I remember that vid of Prince Philip in full demon possessed nastiness talking about the need for depopulation.

Will the Croatians and Greeks stand for this insult against the Honor of Konig Canute Harald Haakon XVIII?

Will they go to War for the honor of yet another 3rd Cousin of Queen Victoria?

EU honor is at stake, gentlexirs of Europe!

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter says

How the fuck did we go from riding the ass of any Russian or Chinese plane or boat that got too close to Norway or the Philipines... to actually DEBATING whether we should totally be in charge of North America?

Whether or not somebody is hyperinterventionist or isolationist or moderate, completely controlling North America and preventing any foreign power from establishing so much as an igloo here is a no fucking brainer.

Same way we went from American culture for America to “diversity equity inclusion so shut up bigots.”

Both due to leftist women getting into power and voting for stupid things.

Who wants to Guess why Denmark won't just leave Greenland?

Hint: Why isn't Norway in the EU? What would Norway have to share as an EU member?

Oil revenue, I assume.

So Denmark shows up on a map?

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/the-hard-way-saturday-january-10

Trump’s annexation of Greenland, long mocked by progressives as a joke or meme, is hardening into reality. The New York Times reported, “Trump Threatens to Take Greenland ‘the Hard Way.’” He’s losing patience.

Trump was characteristically blunt. “The fact that they had a boat land there 500 years ago doesn’t mean they own the land,” he said. “I’m sure we had a lot of boats go there too.”

That is muscular language— language weak American presidents largely abandoned after the Cold War, when meek deference to global consensus replaced testosterone-fueled talk about power and geography. Trump made clear that, this time, he isn’t negotiating: “I’m not talking about money for Greenland yet —I might talk about that— but right now, we’re going to do something on Greenland whether they like it or not.”

In what the Times described as an “ominous warning,” President Trump reinforced the point: America is getting Greenland. “I would like to make a deal the easy way,” the President said, showing the velvet glove, “but if we don’t do it the easy way, we’re going to do it the hard way.”

I doubt the clammy reality was lost on the Danes; this is essentially the same choice Trump offered Nicolás Maduro— right before the “hard way” abruptly arrived in a blizzard of late-night inconvenience and last-minute travel.

It’s not a completely crazy idea. The strategic logic is straightforward. Even AOC can understand it. “I’m a fan of Denmark,” Trump insisted, “but if we don’t do it, Russia or China will take over Greenland, and we’re not going to have Russia or China as a neighbor.”

Kinda like Russia does not want NATO as a neighbor, which is understandable.

But that said, Russia and Alaska are already neighbors.

Patrick says

Oil revenue, I assume.

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

Some Denmark shows up on a map?

Yeah, it's the later.

I thought it was fish, because Greenland is outside the EEZ. Same reason Norway won't join the EU.

Turns out the whole EEZ is controlled by a Monopoly Company, all of it is in Greenlander hands, and Danes themselves have to pay for the rights to fish there like any EU country.

Denmark is so desperate to feel good and have a seat at the arctic table and be noticed they give away the EEZ to the natives AND pay a billion in social services and welfare at no economic gain to themselves, they don't even use the money to subsidize their control.

Deep in the heart of the polite Dane is the Viking Thane who doesn't want to bash you, but he does want you to come to his big hof and dine at his table and ask him for a favor. The Danes need to embrace their Shadow Self, ha!

Alliance of Nordic States issues communique on the US taking over Greenland:

It's time for the Iran Iraq justification strategy. The Danes asked for it.

Trump claims Maduro escaped and was last seen in Greenland. LOL! More COL Fleet Street claptrap.

LOL!

Are we gefuckt?

Ceffer says

Are we gefuckt?

Hardly. My nephew is a Marine Lt now training in Norway for winter warfare. I do not think they do sit-ups in the water, but they do cold water full body dips after cutting a hole in the ice.

Dumass Royalist Daily Spew. However, Israel is moving all the Palestinians to Northern Greenland covered in Polar Bear Rutting Scent, and Trump is moving all the Greenlanders to Gaza.